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nerdy cultural goodness from through a
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black lens I am your host Brendan and
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I'm joined by Mel hello hello we have a
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lot to talk about today do Liz owned
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headlines or and talk about some
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trailers specifically wonder them in
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1984 we're going to talk about that new
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sketch comedy show astronomy club and
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we're going to talk about the latest
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episode of Watchmen Liz Oh hidden the
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headlines yeah
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our 2019 Entertainer of the Year I'm
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very proud of her congratulations you
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know I've said before on this show that
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I love Liz oh yeah I don't know if
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everybody I did actually in our in the
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hip-hop way I also mentioned that I
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didn't I wasn't really sure though where
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her where her platform was coming from I
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love her music but it was kind of weird
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that she's always like look at me I'm
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big and I still love myself and
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beautiful and not being a woman of size
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myself I don't necessarily think it's my
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job to say what her experience is I
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can't validate or invalidate it
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obviously I can just accept it and say
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yeah okay girl do you but I the thing
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that confused me was I was never really
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sure when it became uncool for black R
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singers to not be skinny cuz there's
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always been big black R&B; singers
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there's always been plus-size black
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women in R&B; and hip-hop I mean look at
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Missy Elliott who Liz Oh kind of took
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the torch from she's not necessarily
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Plus as anymore but she started that way
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true so I don't know she was kind of
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talking like nobody had ever loved
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plus-sized black women and black music I
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think in the crossover space it was
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different and yeah hmm I think when it
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comes to Missy Elliott mm-hmm I think
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because she had kind of a gimmick beyond
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her size that she had
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extremely creative music videos and
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choreography and the videos she had a
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gimmick beyond mistress I swear I think
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that yeah
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Liz oh is kind of making her size
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the gimmick as it were I don't want to
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kind of dismiss yeah I said that in a
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dismissive way right I mean yeah I mean
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she talks about it a lot but I don't
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think that's a bad thing I just I'm just
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sort of startled that her platform kind
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of seems to be you know necessarily her
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platform because she's never said this
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but when people talk about her they act
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like she is the first plus-size black
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woman to ever be famous I think she's
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the first plus-size black woman to be
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explicitly famous in a crossover space
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yes but I think that we have always
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appreciated plus-size black whores
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I think but again I am NOT I'm not
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plus-sized so I can't necessarily speak
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to that
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I've just been perplexed by that I think
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I think you could definitely speak on
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your observations in regards to mm-hmm
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music should we all observe the same
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right music Jill Scott was one of my
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first exactly hmm I think Jill Scott was
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the first Valentine's Day present I ever
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got really got herself her know her her
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vol 1 it's great shout out to Stephanie
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throughout there thank you now what
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Stephanie a plus-sized black woman this
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is where the roots the road
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she was Plus or black okay
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but check shake it taste yeah she did
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okay you know so anyway let's we're okay
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yeah let's not go down that road lose oh
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speaking of Liz oh yes so I randomly
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started going on Facebook and I saw a
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couple assesses about Liz oh Turkey at a
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baseball game and considering all that's
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going on in my life personally and just
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what's going on in the news and in the
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world I really had no time to really
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care about this
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so you actually talk about in the show
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yeah cuz my timeline has blown up
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Twitter or Facebook everyone seen it
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Instagram I've seen it so many times but
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the thing is I have only I I had to go
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looking for the actual video because I
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just saw
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much commentary about Liz oh and it all
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seemed to be coming from all these
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different sides and it was also
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vitriolic that I had to go look up the
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video and well we'll see what you have
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to say about it yeah so I told Mel that
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I would find the video and I would watch
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it for the first time live and we'll see
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how I how I feel about okay so I got it
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pulled up here mhm
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so here we go she's standing up
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everyone's kind of looking at the
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jumbotron I guess and she starts dancing
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you know oh you just got that video oh
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okay oh oh wow what I'm just oh wow okay
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I haven't actually seen this video I
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just saw the one where she does the
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dress reveal in the hallway of the
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Staples Center on the way to her seat oh
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yeah so I haven't seen the actual twerk
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video okay I mean who cares if you
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worked with your apps out of baseball
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get her what baseball game basketball
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game because we have cheerleaders that's
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their whole job
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yeah I mean they're just a lot smaller
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my overall stance is uh there's really
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too much going on the world like let her
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live like there's really nothing that's
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gonna move the needle on anything of
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significance who cares right exactly I
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mean here's my thing what tickled me was
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just how uh new on so much of the
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commentary was it was either I mean
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people really do seem to have this
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feeling like you can't have a dissenting
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opinion unless it falls into a stance
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that you already know about right so
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people were either like oh you're so fat
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phobic because you don't think that Liz
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Oh looks good in that dress well I'm
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sorry I'm not fat phobic but I
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personally think that that's a really
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ugly dress I thought I saw the reveal at
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first and I thought that it was like
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there was something wrong I thought like
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her dress had gotten caught in an
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escalator or something because it just
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looked so chewed up from the back I
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think this was beautiful but that dress
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is not her dress sorry I mean mm-hmm
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a thought or no ass out I mean it's just
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I don't think it's a cute dress but that
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said it doesn't matter if she likes it
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so wear your dress girl torque I don't
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care I don't have to like it I don't put
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food in Liz's mouth or what's the
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expression food on her table or teeth in
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her mouth I don't know what the
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expression is I'm old and black but I'm
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not okay I don't know these expressions
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but you get the idea
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no I
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my point is my point is though just
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because you don't like what lizzo does
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it doesn't matter because she likes it
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and she's making money and she's time
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entertainer of the year and it's not
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that important but yeah I mean you hit
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him head that dress it looks like she's
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wearing her like really big brothers
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shirt yeah I'm just like cut out an ass
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yeah
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and this'll can be very sexy but that to
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me is not her at her sexiest no did look
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like a mistake it's not a cute dress
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but blues those beautiful so she can
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wear whatever she wants I don't care
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yeah the daily show me to joke about she
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sat in the and the cushion seats that
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absorbs all the all the bacteria so why
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would you put your bare butt head oh she
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was sitting on a seat in the Staples
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Center and it wasn't like you know it's
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a regular like seat it was like a
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cushioned seat so they absorb more
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things okay well I mean hey again it's
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not my ass if she wants to put her ass
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on it public zoo she can afford the
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health care right exactly exactly she's
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fine live you can have your opinion I
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certainly have mine but some people are
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taking it to a really extra level you
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know that's that's a part of our culture
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now everyone has to have some extra man
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pinion it's amazing yes girl do it for
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the culture or it's trash exactly it's
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like you know you can have an opinion
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that has nothing to do with either of
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those extreme stances and still support
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the artist I like her album I have her
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album but I'm not gonna buy that dress I
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keep saying that I really don't like
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that dress but whatever again it doesn't
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matter what I think
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yeah well I called it ugly dress stupid
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opinion gate on my personal facebook
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page so people are taking it way too far
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no I agree
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meanwhile the world is on fire right I
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mean come on
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who are you voting for gosh I said okay
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again I'm old but I bought that old and
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all of a sudden I almost took myself to
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a level where I sounded super old I was
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literally like who are you voting for
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stop buying chicken sandwiches little is
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Oh Liv wait no stop sorry too far and
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turn into Huey from the boondocks
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exactly all right Liz oh is dunzo yes
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exactly
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live moving on go buy her album listen
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to it it's great also buy her time
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spread because that dress wasn't sexy
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but her spread in Time magazine is very
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sexy and very fashion okay there were a
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lot of trailers that came out over the
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past week there was new Ghostbusters
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trailer a new Wonder Woman trailer and
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there's one more than I'm blinking you
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know and I'm pretty sure oh there's a
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new change bond trailer' oh gosh I
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completely blanked on that was out so I
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don't know if you're just joining this
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show for the first time I personally do
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not watch trailers for films that I know
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I'm going to see I like to see it's kind
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of like I'm starting also not to listen
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to singles on albums before the album
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comes out I like to just like a like a a
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movie scene I like to see it in the
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context of the film I like to be
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surprised and amazed or moved right and
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and at that moment that's interesting so
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yeah so but that being said I did catch
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us a snippet of Wonder Woman because you
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know as you scroll on Instagram or
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Facebook they just did had that autoplay
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and so I saw something that I feared and
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have you seen the one over in I don't
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have this intensive stance on trailers
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issue two I'll usually watch one or
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maybe two but I just want to watch the
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film most of the time for me trailers
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are usually every film has two minutes
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of interesting footage in it so a
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trailer doesn't really tell me much
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about a film I've enjoyed films I've
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seen without a trailer much more than
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three out then films I've seen with one
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mm-hmm
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so I'm gonna tell you what I saw and
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then I give you my pain on it and then
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you can tell me if I'm wrong
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I only saw literally like five seconds
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I'll tell you right now you're wrong
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stop eating chicken sandwiches anyway
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okay vote vote Labour okay so I think
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did I talk about this on the Captain
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Marvel review possibly but I didn't like
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wonderment too much and one of my main
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beefs is that she's literally Superman
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and honestly if you asked me whose power
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set would you rather have Superman or
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Wonder Woman I would honestly choose one
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why well Superman's his power source is
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the Sun one of them doesn't we have a
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source it's just she's just badass all
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the time even though she can be pierced
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by sharp objects and be heard her
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healing factor and her just ability to
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withstand pain is so great that it's
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that's really net negligible Batman does
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not have powers he's a boy hey hold on
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I'm being a bet okay why so Superman
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acts Batman a question he said who's
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faster Wonder Woman or me and Batman
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said or axed who's faster hüseyin bolt
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or Bruce Lee oh that's interesting
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yes although the flash got no love in
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that conversation she's well the flash
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is easily the faster first immigrants
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but even Wonder Woman can keep up with
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him at cruising speed so it isn't it you
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know so I mean she really has a great
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power set and that and that's just
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beyond her knowing like crazy languages
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and all these other little little things
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that you can wiki when I see in the
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trailer for Wonder Woman and in the
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movie her big set pieces her crashing
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through a window in fighting ten Germans
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it's like this is whack would you ever
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give Superman a trailer where his big
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set pieces fighting 10 regular humans in
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a room who do you think he is Batman
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yeah or Captain America those are their
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scenes yeah those are for those that
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level of hero not for one woman so when
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I saw everyone's heaviness as a feminist
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oh my god yes I'm like you know in a way
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of course of course yeah director the
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actress and just how as we talked about
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in the review how Diana sees herself and
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and infused the world I think it was
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really cool yeah
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but on the hero level I was very
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unimpressed and I hoped that now they
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have his fortune out of the way they can
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actually give her a movie that's worthy
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of her abilities and so when I was
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scrolling through Instagram and like I
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briefly saw a scene I saw her once again
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in some
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like Lobby or something sliding across
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the floor in her signature way beating
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up dudes and I'm like literally you're
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Wonder Woman does Superman have to slide
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across the floor to like topple a
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security guard right that's a good point
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I was I'm just I'm sick of it yeah like
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you were not one but two movies were
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really letting her down right well I
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don't know I was there more in the
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trailer that showed her doing more it
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looked alright but again every movie has
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two minutes of interesting footage and
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there they must be keeping the big stuff
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for the actual film which I could
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appreciate right now since this is the
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first trailer but to be fair I so far
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that film just from the trailer that I
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saw looks very much like a nostalgia
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piece yeah I don't know what they're
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doing with the male lead they've got a
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lot of splainin to do I don't know if
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you saw that I mean I know he's back
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okay yeah Steve Trevor Trevor yeah it's
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back I don't know how they've got to
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explain that and they didn't explain it
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in the trailer so I guess I'm madly
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intrigued but my thing about wonder what
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the first Wonder Woman movie is that I
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don't really like putting superhero
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stories in the backdrop of real wars
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clumsily which I thought they did
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I thought the villain was wack oh yeah
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Kristen Wiig okay she has potential I
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think she could be a badass cheetah but
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from the bitch you see of her in the
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trailer you don't even know that she's
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she just looks like an adoring fan
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that's how I think it's how they wrote
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it yeah yeah which is fine but I mean
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I'm interested to see what she does
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because I do like Kristen Wiig I think
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she's underrated as a talent in a lot of
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ways there so we'll see what she does
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with that I'm looking forward to that
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but I'm just worried that it's gonna be
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a boring nostalgia piece and I'm not a
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huge fan of gal gadot she's kind of got
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this sort of strange otherworldly energy
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which should work at her advantage but
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she just sort of seems disconnected from
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the whole everything but then again I
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might just be Hayden oh no either way I
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don't know I'll see it well we have to
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yeah it is kind of our job a job but
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aren't ya responsibilities aren't yes
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exactly free action for you the people
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yes for you dear listeners we will see
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Wonder Woman
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and hope that it's not mediocre I'm sure
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it'll be alright just like next week's
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movie the rise of Skywalker
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oh god that's next week next week oh
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geez
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I completely forgot yeah yes our lane
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for tickets to eat on we don't get it
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shut out yeah I won't okay okay anyway
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I'll see it but I just kind of feel I'm
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not the trailer didn't make me want to
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see it I'm going to see it despite the
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trailer not because of the trailer
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I miss really exciting trailers I think
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the last trailer I saw that I was super
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super excited to see the film for was
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the second Matrix movie like that's the
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last time I saw chiller was like let me
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see this movie and I got hurt and ever
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since then I've been like I don't
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believe you trailer I don't care how
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awesome you are
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infinity war in game no no to be honest
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I don't even think I watched those
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trailers no wait I did watch the endgame
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trailer and I was interested but I knew
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that they were gonna fake us out cuz
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Marvel's got a history of doing that and
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they did pretty bad I mean they paid
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Okoye dust in endgame but she was all
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through the trailer that's true so in
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that pose I took off the poster yeah
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well they put her but they put her on
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the poster finally yeah finally when
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people complained but though it makes
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total sense now that she wasn't on the
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poster because she was barely in the
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movie she did kill glee though Corby
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exclu glaive whatever is Janice I don't
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know his government I don't know I saw
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the Ghostbusters trailer that you're
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about to talk about I'm gonna talk about
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it cuz I have never seen it I haven't
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seen it okay I didn't finish the trailer
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because I was actually bored by it and
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it's Paul Rudd he's yeah he's the right
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person I guess I had heard rumors that
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the remaining the living original cast
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was returning for this yeah I watched
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the trailer hoping to see them and they
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just never showed up and it was just
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eleventh boyfriend from stranger things
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looking tall and awkward and gawky and
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teenage and I was like okay I think I've
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seen this movie before but just without
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ghosts so I got bored and turned it off
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I'll see that film but the trailer
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didn't do anything for me okay mm-hmm
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James Bond I'm really excited to see a
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black double 7 woman but and she was the
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homie from from a Captain Marvel right
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that was mm-hmm
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yeah I completely forgot I haven't seen
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that trailer at all
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mm-hmm yeah we'll see but it still
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Daniel Craig too and I think that's why
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I stopped being excited about bond
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Daniel Craig has never been bond to me I
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mean he was really good in the first
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film where he was bond and then he just
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kind of gets progressively Saghir and
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leathery er and it's just very like I
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was just looking at him like sir let
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somebody else do it look like you're
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about to break a hit my man speaking of
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him though I finally saw knives out yes
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what'd you think it was very good I
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really liked it it's I thought it was it
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was a great trauma I thought I knew it
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and then yeah I had something it's maybe
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it's when those films where it's like
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whatever you think it is correct yeah
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there were some things I guess in the
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end but the way that they get there yeah
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it's really well written because you
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know the test of good writing is even if
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you know what's gonna happen you want to
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see how it plays out right so you do
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kind of know what's gonna happen but you
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want to see how it plays out they tell
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you everything that's gonna happen in
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the film in the first 30 minutes but
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it's just so much fun to watch it all
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unfold sure and what did you think of
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our boy Captain America playing a
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horrible person it was great
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I'd loved that yeah mm-hmm it wasn't
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like he like you know slim down 40 which
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is big-ass totally it was great oh gosh
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that's amazing
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but yeah there was that and then I think
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the girl from that the nurse I think
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she's the new Bond girl isn't she I'm
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not sure I I feel like I heard that
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somewhere I don't know I'll look it up
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while we talk about more stuff keep
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going okay mm-hmm Leslie went to a
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Shradha me Club hi so it was you put me
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onto this yes it's the blurred sketch
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show yeah it's great guys
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you know sometimes Netflix just quietly
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puts things out and I guess it's up to
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people to just kind of use their
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word-of-mouth to advertise it but yeah
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so this there's Tommy Club premiered on
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Netflix last week last weekend mm-hmm
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this is a new sketch comedy show with an
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all-black cast and apparently is from
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the producers of blackish yeah I think
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so I don't usually know details like
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that okay I believe so I'll believe you
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okay
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what's even more special is that with in
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the cast
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they often explore and make fun of
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different shades of blackness very much
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yeah
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so there's a person who is hood black
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one lady is Huxtable black yeah when
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it's Canadian black yes there's the
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super nerdy guy who people can't ignore
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and and and make fun of there's mixed
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ethnicities queer yeah and there's
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insecurities about colorism and
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interracial spouses parents mm-hmm it's
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a super black show I was pleasantly
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surprised by the level of blackness and
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the level of nerdiness yeah and just
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it's really creative and funny at the
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same time I've watched the whole season
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twice since I put you on I really uh it
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was funny it wasn't like guffaw funny
20:46
the whole time but I just loved the
20:47
ideas they were putting down I wanted to
20:49
give it the extra view no they were
20:50
fantastic fantastic I want to briefly
20:53
talk about the cast and I got this
20:54
information from refinery29
20:57
comm there's ray Cordova shontayne Bowen
21:02
he was apparently a technician on The
21:06
Sopranos because he looks so ethnically
21:10
ambiguous yeah okay
21:12
Jonathan Bray Locke his a podcast he
21:16
co-hosts a podcast called black men
21:17
can't jump in Hollywood oh that's
21:19
interesting
21:19
great name yeah I definitely want when I
21:21
want to listen to that now right and
21:24
he's actually on the podcast with two
21:26
other people that are on the show he's
21:29
appeared in unbreakable kimmy schmitt
21:32
broad city oh that's where I've seen him
21:34
before yes okay and happen to be single
21:36
mm-hmm James the third he writes for the
21:40
rebooted version of all that on
21:42
Nickelodeon there's a rebooted version
21:44
of all that I am missing out with this
21:47
expat life Matt I'm not sure if it's
21:49
it's out now or it's coming oh okay well
21:51
if it's out I've gotta look pretty sure
21:53
Keenan and killer like helping to
21:55
produce it I'm not sure it's actually
21:57
out yet but I could be wrong oh okay
21:58
well I'll check it out later
22:00
he also wrote for Adam ruins everything
22:03
he's been on modern family brought city
22:07
black mirror last week tonight with John
22:09
Oliver and Late Night with Seth Meyers
22:15
is also you know there are a lot of
22:17
James Bond because I've been looking for
22:19
that girl the whole time you've been
22:20
talking and I've just been scrolling
22:22
through endless pages of lists of James
22:24
Bond movies this is insane
22:25
keep going okay okay there is Jeremy
22:29
legen he was also in broad city hmm he
22:33
also worked as a producer on vh1 MTV CW
22:37
spike he also helped produce wallet out
22:41
okay this is what accolades between the
22:44
cast there are three women mm-hmm
22:46
Caroline Martin she was also in broad
22:49
city mmm black mirror mm-hmm wait what
22:52
she and black mirror do you know which
22:54
episode not sure okay okay Monique Moses
22:58
was also in broad city a lotta broad
23:00
city yeah a lot of broad cities but
23:02
brought cities like the news but second
23:05
city that is the second city the troop
23:08
that produced all those SNL people I
23:10
feel like broad cities the new version
23:12
of that oh sure sure yeah she was in
23:15
broad city full-frontal with Samantha
23:18
bee and The Daily Show and lastly we
23:20
have Keisha's Zoller she's the only one
23:22
I'd heard of before watching this I've
23:24
seen her stand-up she's quite funny okay
23:25
mm-hmm but she's the only one who or she
23:28
has not appeared on broad city yeah she
23:30
was a writer for the opposition with
23:33
Jordan Klepper and a writing supervisor
23:36
for busy tonight and she's been a number
23:39
of things like orange is the new black
23:40
and divorce Wow that's a show I just I
23:45
don't watch enough TV there's so much
23:46
too much yeah yeah okay quick timeout
23:49
yes the nurse from knives out is in fact
23:53
the new Bond girl her name is alain de
23:55
armas okay also rami malek is the
23:57
villain yeah I was I did I knew that I'm
23:59
accessible so I'm excited to see that
24:01
actress was really good of knives out
24:02
I'm excited to see her in something else
24:04
but I still haven't watched the bond
24:05
trailer back to our regularly scheduled
24:07
programming I'm excited for rami malek
24:10
i over everything i just blew i loved
24:12
mr. robot so regularly scheduled
24:15
programming oh okay
24:17
you want a fan i just haven't seen it
24:19
you haven't haven't yeah okay so again
24:23
let's go back to them just exploring
24:25
their shades of blackness this is
24:28
in this kind of ongoing reoccurring
24:31
narrative so like a black lady sketch
24:33
show the actors have committed its ads
24:35
themselves between the true sketches so
24:37
for the former show they somehow
24:39
survived like in Apocalypse and they're
24:41
just joking and roasting each other and
24:43
they certainly deal with aspects of
24:45
black femininity as well right for
24:47
astronomy club they're in a reality show
24:50
where they're living together in a house
24:51
this part of the Netflix deal they
24:54
really do a good job of kind of calling
24:55
back to the old-school real world format
24:57
yeah like I was very cleverly done it
24:59
was really funny yeah and it's so we get
25:02
to know them seriously in some ways but
25:04
also we see other aspects of their
25:06
comedic chops and it's really great
25:08
there's a hilarious bit where I think
25:11
Caroline is her name she's she's I think
25:14
I'm a mixed woman and she tries to prove
25:16
her blackness by cooking soul food group
25:19
everybody hates it everybody's like oh
25:22
this is really good jello just like oh
25:23
that's the mac and cheese yeah yeah but
25:26
I mean it's just so funny and creative
25:28
and its really effortlessly showcasing
25:30
the diversity that exists within
25:31
blackness yes and this the humor and the
25:34
cross sections of where our humor meets
25:35
as well there's a bunch of other skits
25:38
my personal favorite skit is also
25:41
probably the nerdiest skit it has a lot
25:43
to do with Dungeons & Dragons and that's
25:46
all I'll tell you right now but it is
25:47
very black and very funny and there's a
25:50
surprise I think that really made me
25:52
laugh if you've ever been black and
25:53
worked in media with a lot of white
25:55
people
25:55
you'll love it no it's fantastic yeah so
25:58
it's really well done but again it's
26:00
also really nerdy like they've got a lot
26:01
of references to really funny kind of
26:04
nerd culture things as well which is
26:05
great yeah I think some of the sketches
26:08
are really inspired you mentioned I
26:10
think the the D&D; sketch was probably my
26:13
favorite
26:13
I also liked one about Robin Hood yeah
26:16
yeah that was very funny Robin Hood
26:19
robbing a house owned by black people
26:21
yes
26:22
and we see how that how that they kind
26:24
of turned Mythology on its head and I
26:25
liked how they did that that was there's
26:28
a magical Negro Clinic yes I thought
26:31
about you the whole time we're movie
26:33
characters go to learn how not to help
26:35
white people what makes what about that
26:38
made you think about me wait a minute
26:40
no because you
26:42
about Stephen King oh yeah that's catch
26:48
yeah okay there were a lot of really
26:50
funny sketches and then they're not
26:51
always like super hard-hitting as far as
26:53
black and some of them are also just
26:54
kind of pop-culture commentary there's a
26:56
funny one about ASMR yeah yeah they're
26:59
just it's just very current and very
27:01
lively and I really liked it I suggest
27:03
watching it it's not a really long
27:05
season there's only six episodes and
27:06
they're all about 20 minutes long as
27:08
well so it does it's not a long watch
27:10
but it's definitely worth it I've
27:11
watched it twice there's a sketch about
27:13
Blackpoint I really enjoy - okay that
27:15
one that being a partaker of the porn
27:18
myself I wasn't really into that but
27:20
okay I got the point it was it was funny
27:21
and it made a really good point I
27:23
thought oh it exactly I I think they're
27:26
they kind of made parodies of famous
27:29
black films yeah and that was the part
27:32
that really then what was the the quote
27:34
let's let's let's check out some of this
27:36
blacks excellence some of the like the
27:41
puns they have in here and just I
27:43
thought it was really funny it's really
27:45
quotable as well if you watch it let us
27:46
know what your favorite quote is in the
27:47
comments and sketch yeah because we
27:50
thought it was funny I thought it was
27:51
yeah like you said I don't think
27:54
everything hits for me like that
27:56
mhm I think some of the editing is great
27:58
I think a lot of the editing in the
28:01
reality-show section of the show is
28:04
really good like though they'll they'll
28:06
cut at really great times yeah they've
28:08
got really good comedic timing and you
28:09
can tell a lot of them have worked
28:10
together over time yeah they really play
28:12
off each other well and sometimes it's a
28:14
little too subtle though like you you
28:16
can tell that they're used to working
28:17
together in like maybe an improv or a
28:19
stage kind of kind of space because
28:22
they're doing a lot of kind of side bits
28:23
and there's a lot of funny background
28:24
events yeah but that doesn't always play
28:26
as well to the cameras I think you think
28:28
yes I say that I think I've only watched
28:33
two and most of the third episode a
28:36
couple of them ran a little too long in
28:39
Loserville steam so I hope maybe in the
28:42
next season they can kind of tighten
28:44
that up I hope there is a next season
28:46
watch it so there is one because I need
28:49
more of this totally I mean like those
28:52
nitpicks aside I'm really excited to see
28:53
more from the same as you say
28:54
and if they have the capacity to do some
28:56
like weekly SNL like show I would
28:58
totally be down might be all into that
29:00
like a in living color style show I'd
29:02
let me Matt I think this show is like an
29:04
r-rated in living color for Millennials
29:08
yeah okay all black and live in color
29:10
for Millennials yeah in living color for
29:12
nerds for Bloods but yeah you know we
29:15
see glimpses of black comedic excellence
29:18
on SNL with the Kenan and his like his
29:20
black jeopardy show I really like that
29:22
show a lot those those haven't been my
29:24
favorite sketches of recent times that
29:25
one with Tom Hanks that was brilliant
29:27
brilliant
29:28
what can a skinny woman do for you and
29:30
what is not a damn thing I mean he's
29:36
beat I feel like Kenan people say he's
29:39
not funny but I think he's way funnier
29:41
than Leslie Jones number one and I think
29:42
the fact that he's always been a sketch
29:44
comedian like that's been his whole life
29:46
in the public eye yeah makes people kind
29:47
of undercut him a bit because I think
29:49
he's actually consistently when he's
29:51
funny he's really funny
29:53
but I think because he's on SNL and that
29:56
show as cutting edge as it tries to be
29:58
is still coming from a fairly limited
30:00
cultural perspective absolutely
30:02
but I think that Cayenne in political
30:04
perspective right and I think it kind of
30:05
messes him up sometimes I think there's
30:07
times when he doesn't really get to
30:08
shine even though he's been on the show
30:09
for a million years at this point I
30:11
don't think it gets to shine as much as
30:12
he could I'm excited because he's got a
30:15
new sitcom coming out and right here is
30:17
to see what's gonna happen with that but
30:19
yeah if we had a show where it was all
30:21
it almost feels like the grown and the
30:23
grown-up version of all that with just
30:25
the black cast member some way like it's
30:26
yeah I really irate astronomy club I
30:29
really do I love it go see it let us
30:32
know what you thought of astronomy club
30:33
in the comments shall we go on to
30:38
Watchmen yeah you know our main event
30:41
for the past few weeks has been the
30:43
delicious finally spiced well-prepared
30:47
dish that is the watchman hmm and it was
30:49
it was extra bootylicious this time my
30:53
gosh let's uh again if you're new to our
30:56
show we are going to spoil the latest
30:59
episode of Washington so you haven't
31:01
seen it turn off now three didn't listen
31:06
to
31:07
one here we go
31:10
whoa that was a lot of black men nudity
31:13
Wow I there was a point where I kind of
31:16
I looked away and I looked back and it
31:17
was just like Kapow hello
31:19
and I had to look full disclosure I have
31:22
a confession I ran it back and watched
31:24
it again but no kidding but yeah so last
31:31
week we expressed reservations about the
31:34
idea that they were just going to paint
31:36
striking Viper
31:38
yeah Abdul mattina his new name is is
31:40
blue Manta yes we had reservations that
31:46
they were going to paint that actor blue
31:47
and have this really awkward
31:49
interpretation of of dr. Manhattan we
31:54
were right in some ways and this is what
31:56
the this is the genius of the show they
31:58
keep doing things that we say we hope
32:00
they don't do it because it'll be stupid
32:01
but they do it in a way that is so good
32:03
so they did paint him blue mostly yeah
32:06
most of the time yes exactly they did
32:07
paint him blue but it was not awkward
32:11
almost at all there were a couple
32:14
moments where I was like okay but
32:17
overall the effect was much better than
32:20
I thought
32:21
they use a couple of interesting visual
32:23
devices to kind of ease you into it
32:25
so you're not just like why that black
32:27
man blue it's so yeah yeah I think this
32:31
is one of the strongest episodes as far
32:33
as writing okay no that's not you I said
32:38
I said that episode six
32:41
this is true Navy being was the best and
32:44
then I said the one after that was
32:45
strong in regards to advancing the story
32:48
okay okay and I think this is very
32:51
strong as far as I'm gonna get a
32:53
vestment story for sure but also just
32:54
the writing and directing because with
32:56
with this episode you have dr. Manhattan
33:00
John going through time in different
33:02
ways it's been happening on the show
33:05
mm-hmm we're almost regularly however
33:08
this is again just a fresh way to do it
33:11
right because again you know with
33:13
episode six we're going through time
33:14
through Angela and her grandfather do
33:17
these pills right but now we're seeing
33:19
the world
33:21
through John's eyes yeah and it's a very
33:24
unique way to do this again to keep
33:27
making the concept of of time right and
33:30
that's kind of how they solve the
33:31
problem of will this man looks silly if
33:33
we just paint him blue and put him in
33:35
this episode they solve it by putting it
33:37
through his perspective and explaining
33:39
vividly why he still looks why he looks
33:42
the way he looks blue or black okay
33:45
which is interesting I you know did I
33:49
I'm not on Twitter a lot but I did go on
33:52
Twitter to see what Regina King and blue
33:55
Manta had to say about their roles in
33:56
this particular episode and there is a
33:59
video of Abdullah Mateen just like but
34:02
he's basically the caption is something
34:03
like my reaction to all of y'all
34:05
watching this episode and he's just
34:07
cackling he thinks it's hilarious
34:08
because nobody would have guessed and I
34:12
honestly thought that they were going to
34:14
cast somebody else in the role of dr.
34:15
Manhattan and not actually have him play
34:18
it all so yo this is the blackest show
34:22
on television like and I was not
34:24
expecting that and every week they up
34:26
the blackness your God is black now
34:29
basis deal with it basically and I have
34:32
overpowered superhero in all of comics
34:35
Canon is a black man Canon but if you
34:39
think about it okay who's more Opie than
34:42
dr. Manhattan Oh within their universe
34:45
okay in the DC Universe well because
34:47
he's he's part of DC so that's Wayne but
34:50
wait a minute though but the thing about
34:52
Watchmen is that Watchmen is very much
34:53
it's always contained it's contained
34:55
technically it's not now but but no no
34:58
it actually is a part of DC no they had
35:01
a really big crossover event I want to
35:03
say just a couple years ago see this is
35:05
why I don't read DC they do silly stuff
35:06
like this and mess it up that was the
35:08
best dr. manhattan's the reason why a
35:09
lot of the DC characters like Batman is
35:11
younger now and that's because he he
35:16
like they keep extending expanding his
35:18
powers so he originally he perceived
35:21
time differently he manipulated matter
35:22
and energy and all this cool stuff sure
35:25
but then they started giving him more
35:26
powers he can kind of manipulate reality
35:29
and create life as wolf this is why alan
35:32
moore stays mad in the woods stirring
35:34
his witch
35:35
that's ridiculous to do to that
35:37
character but okay okay I didn't realize
35:39
that I mean at this point is pretty old
35:40
P now though yeah mmm anyway yes let's
35:43
uh okay moving on good let us not call
35:46
up the dark God Alan more we have a lot
35:48
to talk about I do I do and talk about
35:51
how he looked yes a bit so you seem less
35:54
impressed than I do so I'm interested to
35:56
hear what you have to say yeah I think
35:59
it was smart that they kept him kind of
36:00
hidden for most of the episode he was in
36:03
the mass they had kind of a CG character
36:06
but you only had his back but once he
36:09
popped up in Angela's living room and he
36:13
was glowing and he had kind of had that
36:15
like hotep yaqoob kind of like thing on
36:19
his head to kind of sew so he didn't
36:21
have to like cut his hair and it you
36:23
know he kind of had this kind of he
36:26
looked like him Squidward but yes but by
36:32
that point okay so this is maybe the
36:34
only body in a living body had the same
36:36
amount of particles about it right is
36:41
that this is maybe the only time I was
36:43
so into how the drama of it that I was
36:46
like okay you know what I'm with it
36:48
handsome Squidward I'm with it it was
36:49
that and then when he glowed it kind of
36:51
had this like kind of low-budget E mm
36:54
almost cable-access glowed to him and I
36:56
I wasn't did you say did you say but
37:04
either way I was so immersed in this
37:06
episode that I did not care that we were
37:07
getting family dollar handsome Squidward
37:10
okay I wrote down some quotes of dr.
37:14
Manhattan in this show and I'm now going
37:16
to only say them in a Squidward just
37:19
because Mel no Milotic is there so
37:22
everyone think thank her for that did
37:27
look like handsome Squidward I totally
37:29
get like like the the memes of like like
37:31
like the hotel guys out there like you
37:33
Kuby with the big brain the big head I
37:41
I'd like you to show how to call backs
37:44
and most of our remaining questions got
37:46
answered yeah
37:48
like you know again just how integrated
37:50
it was where vite says you have a
37:54
fantastic imagination and then he talks
37:57
about Angela and him about the other
37:59
person saying the opposite of it was I
38:03
still don't know what they're doing with
38:05
fight but it was I mean at least they
38:08
explained more this this episode that
38:10
didn't make it really make much more
38:12
sense but fair enough
38:14
that was cool that we saw veidt's
38:17
reactions to his failure hmm you know we
38:20
thought that you know once we closed
38:22
Watchmen really oh man it's a wrap
38:24
mm-hmm but now we see him like almost in
38:27
like old and gray like Batman in the
38:29
cave mm-hmm generating scares to keep
38:31
the world in some sort of check he never
38:32
left yeah he's just been sad and
38:34
depressed the whole that was interesting
38:36
by the way again I'm shocked I actually
38:39
called it didn't I say I think he's on
38:41
Mars he's not on Mars he's on a moon of
38:43
Jupiter or whatever you wrote but but
38:45
yeah close enough right but I was like I
38:47
think he's on Mars being held prisoner
38:48
by dr. Manhattan exactly but I was close
38:53
enough anyway props props I've never
38:57
been able to call a show like this
38:58
before I'm very impressed with myself oh
39:00
you're good you're totally correct
39:03
I like that if I put Doodle game about
39:09
appropriating the appearance of a black
39:10
person yes you know again this is the
39:14
blackest show on television a arguably
39:19
evil totally self-absorbed very
39:24
disconnected from Wheaton from reality
39:26
white billionaire I understands
39:27
appropriation far better than most other
39:31
people so I just thought that was an
39:32
interesting commentary when Vice said a
39:35
little elephant told him about being on
39:37
Europa I mean of course I guess he was
39:39
referring to lady true yeah cuz we had
39:41
that conversation
39:42
okay so have we talked about this on the
39:44
show maybe am I sure I don't think we
39:45
have so weirdly enough you know I'm
39:48
always reading shout out to
39:49
equal-opportunity reader my books to
39:51
Graham brand but I am right now I'm
39:53
reading ocean song I think is the
39:57
pronunciation of this person's name I
39:58
don't know but I'm reading the book on
40:00
earth were briefly gorgeous
40:02
and it's the author's
40:03
vietnamese-american and there's a lot of
40:05
connections to Vietnam and Vietnamese
40:07
culture in the book and as I'm reading
40:08
there's a whole page at a page and a
40:10
half about lady true who is a real
40:13
Vietnamese mythological figure who rides
40:15
an elephant into battle and slaughters
40:17
foreign men this show it might not just
40:21
be the blackest show it's also the most
40:23
Vietnamese show here like I had no idea
40:26
that that was like that her that she was
40:28
named after a real mythological figure
40:30
from Vietnamese culture and I find that
40:31
really cool
40:32
I wonder if they're gonna reveal that
40:35
yeah but you know it was an interesting
40:38
thing to discover that like it kind of
40:40
made me feel the way I guess people
40:42
often people who are not black off and
40:43
feel about black culture I've had people
40:45
like suddenly like discover or suddenly
40:49
realize something that's within black
40:51
culture like I had somebody the other
40:53
day to suddenly realize we're bye
40:54
Felisha came from and I was like you
40:56
don't know that right but it doesn't
40:58
occur to me that they don't know because
40:59
it's our culture and I think maybe it's
41:01
kind of the same thing maybe Vietnamese
41:02
people are who are watching this or like
41:04
I got shot exactly you know you know
41:07
they're like oh we get it right but
41:08
we're like oh wow that's amazing they're
41:10
bringing in new cultures I'm sure there
41:12
are people who watched the the racial
41:16
trauma episode of Watchmen the
41:17
generational trauma episode of Watchmen
41:19
and thought the same thing like we're
41:22
realizing things about black culture
41:23
that they didn't know before that they
41:25
were just putting together the pieces
41:26
and yeah and Tulsa of course yeah right
41:30
yeah exactly
41:31
Wow it's real exactly so in a way maybe
41:34
the lady true references is kind of like
41:36
that as well google it folks yeah it's
41:38
interesting it didn't it a little
41:40
reading and scenting friended a bunch of
41:41
stuff it's interesting I want to get to
41:45
blue mantas showing his pupils and bits
41:48
to everybody almost you know there was a
41:52
little bit love like cutout for modesty
41:54
but not much quite frankly no I think
41:57
you know I think it's kind of messed up
41:59
for this immortal shape-shifting guy to
42:02
just walk up in an old man's home
42:03
slinging his big junk around like oh do
42:07
you want me to put something on Oh Mike
42:08
brought come one you were an asshole
42:13
he's an asshole dr. Manhattan he never
42:17
wears clothes oh how long has it been
42:19
since I seen you John for you sorry I'm
42:22
going back to handsome Squidward for you
42:24
24 years 41 days and 30 13 hours for you
42:29
and you know you know it was like yeah
42:32
yeah I mean I get it like quitting the
42:34
kind of city you come by house
42:36
with your striking Viper all out you
42:39
know they gonna like try to try to kind
42:43
of send me it kind of sent to me about
42:44
about time like brought like just shut
42:46
up
42:47
I like how in this episode and I'll get
42:49
to this a little bit later to how even
42:52
doc even even though dr. Manhattan is so
42:54
Opie mm-hmm
42:55
the people that are closest to him like
42:57
just talk down him all the time you know
43:00
shut up and that's the interesting thing
43:02
about that's one of the things always
43:03
quite liked about Watchmen is none of
43:04
those superheroes like each other at all
43:06
even the ones who are in romantic
43:08
relations don't like each other I mean
43:10
there's something to be said about the
43:11
kind of antisocial personality that
43:13
makes you want to be a superhero to
43:14
begin with and of course they wouldn't
43:17
get along and I really like that and you
43:18
do see that very clearly in this show
43:20
because everybody all of the people who
43:22
are vigilantes or superheroes or
43:24
whatever they all have these sort of
43:25
borderline antagonistic relationships
43:27
with each other
43:28
insisting that even though dr. Manhattan
43:31
is easily the most powerful he has
43:35
social skills that and is ego because if
43:39
any other person had his powers things
43:42
would be a whole lot I think that speaks
43:44
to just the kind of personality that
43:46
people who have great who genuinely have
43:48
great personal ability and power don't
43:51
need egos they just do what they want to
43:53
do and that's I mean he's creating life
43:54
on Europa he doesn't need to prove
43:56
anything to anybody
43:57
let's go to that cuz that was a
43:58
curveball I didn't expect to learn so
44:00
much about that right yeah they really
44:02
got detailed in a way that I wasn't
44:03
expecting Yeah right
44:04
mm-hmm yeah we we thought that all this
44:07
was connected to vite vite built it and
44:10
these people but they're connected to
44:12
Manhattan mm-hmm I thought that was
44:15
fascinating I feel bad for all those
44:17
servants though yeah that was weird as
44:20
well is where that they're they're like
44:22
so I'm kind of curious now so he create
44:27
he forged the Adam and Eve essentially
44:30
from the lake doesn't mean that those
44:32
babies are just swimming around and
44:34
Aiden just picks them out whenever he
44:35
wants yes is that because even though
44:38
it's another thing where they answer
44:40
questions but then there's more
44:41
questions then you kind of want to
44:43
explore how does that work
44:45
yeah where's Kate why man yeah exactly
44:48
that's the one thing that they need to
44:49
answer next week cuz what but you know
44:52
okay that was the one part of this
44:54
episode so one thing I care so I mean
44:59
that would be that would be authentic to
45:01
the tone this show is set so far for
45:02
certain but speaking of tone the bit
45:05
with Adam and Eve and how you kind of go
45:07
back to baby Jon Osterman in in England
45:10
before he goes to the US and that whole
45:13
situation he has with that young couple
45:15
who was the Baron and his wife I think
45:17
who've taken them in temporarily and how
45:19
he then creates Adam and Eve in their
45:20
image that's the one moment for this
45:23
whole season that felt very untrue to
45:26
the Watchmen brand and the watchman
45:27
universe for me it didn't fit it felt
45:30
like it was cribbed from some others
45:31
science fiction story mmm it felt like
45:35
it was cribbed from some other science
45:36
fiction story somewhere which I don't
45:40
know for some reason something about
45:41
that struck a sour note for me and I
45:42
can't figure out why I just yet okay
45:44
we'll see if they talk about it any more
45:46
on the last episode and I'll see if
45:47
there's if it somehow manages to turn
45:49
all the way around for me but that hope
45:52
that whole part of the episode I was
45:53
like where's this from okay that was
45:57
cool how we learned how Angela survived
46:00
the white knight hmm callbacks yeah yeah
46:03
and I gotta go to the the black the
46:07
black moments from Regina King yes he
46:09
always just just brings it out mm-hmm
46:13
John's little pony like he's like don't
46:16
worry about everyone's fight um get the
46:18
about that pool time where the kids
46:20
are like yeah yeah she that she's not
46:27
she's never a damsel in distress she's
46:28
very much like would you just get it
46:30
just do what you need to do like knock
46:32
it off I don't have time for this it's
46:34
so black mm-hm
46:35
yeah I love that light - speaking of
46:37
that on that scene I mean you know what
46:39
maybe I'll say that for
46:40
little later but the Simard john is
46:45
talking to both Angela and well at the
46:47
same time was amazing and once she once
46:49
he she asked him to ask her grandfather
46:53
do you know who judge Crawford is and
46:56
then you know John respond he doesn't
46:58
know who John Crawford is okay what is
47:04
the water what am I in yes that was
47:07
a really good use of time paradox
47:08
storytelling because the whole basically
47:12
so for dr. Manhattan all the time exists
47:15
at the same minute right right so
47:17
there's no paradox at all for him
47:19
shaking her the egg yeah exactly
47:21
brilliant really well done mm-hmm
47:23
fantastic I mean it's also a very
47:26
interesting way to get out to get
47:27
yourself out of a storytelling problem
47:29
that they were causing themselves
47:30
because otherwise how would he know but
47:32
they did it well enough and you've got a
47:33
character who has that kind of
47:35
extrasensory
47:38
extra-extra chronological ability a sort
47:41
of extra chronological ability then yeah
47:44
you got to use it I guess yeah yeah you
47:45
got to show it off so it worked out
47:47
really well but in the hands of a less
47:50
capable storyteller that could have been
47:52
trouble sure and it's cool that of all
47:55
his powers that was the one that they
47:57
focus on the most was his ability to
47:58
just be passive in observed time yeah
48:01
which i think is good because from what
48:03
you just told me about the comic it's a
48:05
good thing they didn't make him too
48:07
crazy I think it it is a TV show at the
48:10
end of the day you can only do so much
48:12
so the fact that they chose one specific
48:15
power to focus on and really unwrap and
48:17
unfold and really show the the extent of
48:19
and the limits of was a really smart
48:21
choice yeah the last thing I want to
48:25
talk about was Regina Kings performance
48:28
once she realizes that the 7th cavalry
48:30
were outside I thought was really
48:32
fantastic it was a wonderful action
48:34
scene she was straight up like John wick
48:36
yes yes yeah and I know if you noticed
48:41
this but I also appreciated that just
48:43
because it's been revealed that
48:45
Manhattan is her husband his powers and
48:48
his presence never diminished her own
48:50
abilities yes I noticed that too like
48:53
she didn't
48:54
never I love that she's not a damsel in
48:55
distress she wasn't like oh saved me the
48:57
7th Calvary is here she was like you
48:59
stay here I'm gonna go tap looks in the
49:00
head yeah she eliminated as many enemies
49:04
as Manhattan did if not more so did you
49:07
think she could save him like once they
49:09
got to the end do you think you know
49:12
what does the song say don't save him
49:13
she don't want to be saved because he
49:15
didn't want to be saved so I don't think
49:17
she could have because he the whole time
49:19
like he's standing in front of it after
49:21
he blows up everybody everybody's head
49:22
and stands in front he stands right in
49:25
front of the Machine and I'm sitting
49:26
there like move move or destroy it yeah
49:29
what are you doing don't stand there but
49:31
he'll clearly yeah exactly but he wasn't
49:33
there for that he was there to be
49:35
destroyed so I don't think she could
49:36
have saved him yeah I mean I've pretty
49:38
much taking that manhattan's word is law
49:40
so I suspect that it was gonna come no
49:42
matter what but it was heartbreaking
49:43
especially it seeing her reaction to
49:45
that was yeah I mean it's interesting
49:47
because his the superpower that they
49:49
posited as his greatest it was also his
49:52
biggest weakness at the same time yeah
49:53
so it's this he's a very vulnerable
49:55
character even though he's very powerful
49:57
he knows everything but he's powerless
49:59
to change anything yeah so that was a
50:02
good illustration of that but also it's
50:04
very heartbreaking to watch that happen
50:05
because it's dr. Manhattan and she just
50:11
got her love back I mean I mean I mean
50:12
she loved Cairo but she also kind of
50:15
fell look at him first right but okay so
50:18
what did you think about that I first of
50:21
all I want to see how Janey reacts
50:22
that's number one number two when she
50:25
figures it out she wasn't in this
50:26
episode at all but number two I don't
50:28
know how I feel about the way they set
50:31
up that romance it was functional yes it
50:37
had its moments of sweetness but I mean
50:39
listen if I'm sitting in a bar and some
50:42
dude just sits down and mans planes to
50:44
me for 30 minutes straight we're not
50:47
having a second date that's not romantic
50:49
well I don't care who he is I think I
50:53
think you could argue that because
50:55
Angela and he said himself angela is
50:58
just a lost person and she's lonely and
51:01
I mean he had to guess if I guess what's
51:05
happening or why you're sitting here
51:07
can I sit down and he he brought her
51:09
beer he delivered on the on the promise
51:12
and I mean honestly if a woman in blue
51:16
face just came and sat down next to me
51:18
and just started telling me wild stuff
51:20
depending on what what was going on yeah
51:23
I would just have fun just having a
51:25
conversation and nasal wishes it was my
51:27
table it was a damsel wasn't like she
51:29
was scared it was yeah she was angry she
51:31
wishes she was tired and just wanted to
51:33
talk to somebody and okay so it was a
51:35
weird guy sure it's so it just kind of
51:37
happened true but I guess I felt like we
51:39
needed something in between the epic
51:41
man's planation date and in like morph
51:44
into some dead guys so we can bone right
51:46
exactly like that to me like there
51:49
needed to be something in between that
51:50
but what they did instead was show us
51:52
scenes from the future aka the present
51:55
which was fine but there really it was
51:58
if this was a rom-com that's the worst
52:00
relationship ever it's not so they get
52:02
away with it but it still I felt like it
52:04
wasn't as fleshed out as it could have
52:05
been
52:05
it was serviceable exactly what is
52:07
probably the weakest aspect of this okay
52:09
yeah I'm with you on that so yet to me
52:15
yeah him dying was like in-game like you
52:18
know Tony's gonna get it but it still
52:20
hurt yeah so I want to move on yeah
52:23
everything I'll say about this episode
52:24
specifically or no I don't know what we
52:29
only have one more episode left I'm
52:31
already in morning but that note yeah I
52:34
want to get into our predictions yes for
52:36
the final episode and I have a couple
52:38
but if you want to go first
52:39
do you think nope I don't have any
52:42
predictions I i've been calling this
52:44
show by accident all season i have no
52:46
idea where this is going now and i could
52:48
not even begin to imagine i just i do
52:50
feel like there's no way they can
52:51
actually destroy dr. Manhattan that
52:53
doesn't make sense because he was that's
52:55
how he became dr. Manhattan he was
52:57
destroyed and then put himself back
52:58
together metaphysically so there's got
53:01
to be a twist that we don't know about I
53:02
think but that's really the only idea I
53:05
have so on that note I want to talk
53:09
about this show has kind of given us a
53:12
guide for I think making predictions in
53:18
some ways
53:19
the show is good about being clean and
53:23
that every word said and seen is very
53:26
deliberate and seeds are planted for
53:30
future episodes and so what really stood
53:34
out to me was Manhattan's talk with
53:38
Angela about creating life and also
53:40
being able to give powers and so ok this
53:44
is where I'm going so he's going to give
53:46
his power to KY man who then does what
53:52
[Laughter]
53:54
so I want to go through a couple things
53:57
so number one when document hadn't said
54:01
I'm hungry
54:03
that was that was a flag to me cuz
54:05
Manhattan doesn't need food think about
54:10
that he doesn't exhaust himself he
54:12
doesn't sleep he doesn't need to eat he
54:15
doesn't need anything yeah who is this
54:17
in the kitchen making waffles and in the
54:20
bar he said that I suppose if I made
54:24
something and so and ingested it they
54:25
could take on my powers and interesting
54:30
ok and perhaps Angela smashing those
54:35
eggs was a red herring or kind of a
54:39
sleight of hand because he made an egg
54:41
himself in the bars possibly he ki could
54:44
have made eggs mm-hmm without her
54:46
without those eggs on the floor hmm it's
54:49
probably he could have left something
54:51
edible on the kitchen before he got he
54:54
got killed did she eat anything but he
54:56
said he wouldn't give her the powers
54:57
without her consent and there was never
55:00
a description or a discussion about
55:01
consent there not yet but again this
55:04
episode mm-hmm so my prediction is that
55:10
man hadn't left something for her on the
55:14
table and consent is pretty much like he
55:17
doesn't have to give it to her mm-hmm
55:18
but here it is and your consent is
55:21
literally to you just eating it yeah
55:22
that's true so it's not really hard to
55:24
know it's not hard to do I what you're
55:27
saying is both vaguely implausible but
55:30
also it would be so dope if it was true
55:31
because dr. Manhattan becomes a black
55:33
woman Oh God black leader guy you know I
55:36
don't think that's gonna be the art for
55:38
her that would be amazing
55:40
I don't know if we've got the setup for
55:42
all that but that would be amazing I
55:44
wouldn't even care if it was if it made
55:45
sense within the universe or not I would
55:47
just enjoy seeing that Episode six went
55:49
to a lot of places yeah yeah you know
55:52
the thing is what this show is
55:54
highlighted for me is that there's such
55:55
a dearth of good black womens
55:57
superheroes I mean we really don't have
56:00
any we have a lot of kind of side
56:02
characters and maybe could be what black
56:04
women superheroes but I mean we have
56:05
what misty night in the dorm of OJ so
56:09
sister night okay yeah you're right
56:13
storm but they keep doing storm so wrong
56:15
in the movies that it's hard to
56:16
appreciate her for what they're in
56:21
movies and TV just in general I mean in
56:22
the comic books it's a bit different but
56:24
even then you kind of have to search but
56:26
you got to read a lot of Captain America
56:27
and again through the misty later a lot
56:29
of what's-his-name Iron Fist or whoever
56:31
point being so yeah so I'm just I think
56:37
that's been the most fulfilling thing
56:39
about the show for me so far is that
56:40
it's about a black woman's superhero and
56:42
she's not a token she's very authentic
56:45
to herself as a character she's got a
56:47
really intriguing backstory that sets
56:49
her up as a superhero well and she's got
56:51
a love interest who also was a superhero
56:53
as it turns out and she's got an
56:56
interesting life and she's got friends
56:57
and she's just a complete superhero
56:59
she's not there to be like fierce and
57:01
sassy she's just this is her story and
57:05
it makes sense yeah anyway so if she
57:08
does turn out to be sister Manhattan I'm
57:11
here for it sister Manhattan Manhattan
57:15
had some Squidward couple of the year
57:16
man I want to I want to go into some
57:18
other parts that that kind of aid in
57:22
this okay remember when he said he was
57:24
on the pool and he's like you need to
57:26
see me on the pool this is important for
57:29
later how would he know about later yeah
57:33
he doesn't come back somehow whoa well
57:36
he knows everything if he doesn't he
57:38
doesn't necessarily have to come back he
57:40
just has to be existed in some sort of
57:41
way he might be reconstructing himself
57:44
for the next 50 years who knows but
57:47
although that did that did stand out to
57:49
me to just the idea standing on the pool
57:51
is important for later I thought to
57:53
myself why would that be important ooh
57:55
is his essence of himself in the pool if
57:58
she goes swimming does she come out a
57:59
sister Manhattan I don't think I don't
58:01
think so no I think him purposefully
58:03
making waffles in the kitchen it's like
58:05
why would you do that
58:06
and I think possibly him walking on
58:09
water to me is you're gonna have these
58:12
powers eventually either you take all my
58:16
essence and I'm kind of living in you or
58:18
you're gonna be the new Manhattan person
58:21
and maybe you need some ideas about how
58:24
to create life because that's how he
58:27
create create life while walking in the
58:29
pool maybe she'll show have that kind of
58:31
she'll do that maybe she'll make her
58:34
kids again or the kid like maybe the
58:36
kids so he happens to the kids unless in
58:38
the last episode of she has to really
58:40
recreate them or yeah because Manhattan
58:43
is also able to repair like damage like
58:47
like if you were totally broken up on
58:49
the verge of death you can undo it or
58:52
she might be able to recreate him out of
58:54
the out of the pool
58:55
that's very true yeah it's very he's
58:57
been quote unquote destroyed whatever
58:59
that actually means for a character like
59:01
him she might be able to pull him back
59:03
out of the pool or maybe she she's
59:05
Manhattan but she can reconstruct a cow
59:08
period hmm and just have him just imbued
59:11
him with speech and give back his
59:14
memories or something and just make him
59:16
a regular person and then she's then
59:18
she's just all hero at that point yeah I
59:21
don't know I love how we're just we're
59:22
both just a hundred percent in on this
59:24
sister Manhattan idea no I think it's
59:27
gonna happen okay absolutely okay and I
59:29
thought once again it's interesting that
59:31
talking about he was hungry and then a
59:32
flash of the egg in his hand it flashed
59:34
at that point to the egg in his hands
59:36
like him creating it then he also said
59:39
it's very interesting question to what
59:42
comes first the chicken or the egg
59:43
he says it's both so you have here we
59:47
think that the egg really or the chicken
59:49
could be John having his accident but
59:54
kind of just like how we learn in the
59:56
comic books that and the flash got hit
59:59
with the lightning through the
60:00
through the chemicals we learned later
60:02
on in comic lore that he was the
60:05
Lightning himself right so we see here
60:08
that John is deconstructing himself or
60:10
he got this accident right we also see
60:13
like he's possibly setting himself up to
60:17
be created again right so the whole idea
60:20
of time being one very dense point
60:22
rather than a circle or a line fair
60:24
enough
60:24
okay where everything is kind of
60:25
coinciding how long a single plane maybe
60:31
hmm I don't know I think whatever they
60:34
do it's going to be interesting but I
60:35
have questions
60:36
where is mr. K why where is Looking
60:38
Glass because they made a really
60:39
interesting point of flagging him up in
60:42
both the preview for this episode and
60:43
the preview for next episode they keep
60:45
reminding you that he exists so he's got
60:47
to have a big role in the final episode
60:48
what happened to dr. Manhattan what is
60:51
Janie going to say when she sees her
60:53
blue boo is back right because she's
60:55
right there mm-hmm is he gonna appeared
60:58
as as blue Manta I mean I'm assuming he
61:01
will yeah that's the thing are they
61:02
gonna just they've done such an
61:05
interesting thing by making this choice
61:08
just such bold choices in this show I
61:10
keep saying that but across the board
61:11
well Blake mentioned his his expanded
61:14
head John can you kind of lose that
61:18
maybe I don't know put your striking
61:21
Viper away this is a family show anyway
61:24
is it a family show not really no not at
61:28
all please don't watch us with your kids
61:29
somebody asked me if it was okay to
61:31
watch this with their kids because it
61:32
was a comic book movie and no no no you
61:35
know that beam with with Bugs Bunny new
61:37
new new please not don't do that to your
61:41
children that bugs me I do too
61:43
I had that save on the desktop just
61:44
right to just vote Biden do you'll see I
61:52
don't really but I'm excited to see what
61:55
happens next I'm sad there's only one
61:56
episode left yeah I you know that's been
61:59
a really I'm annoyed that it got snubbed
62:01
so hard at the Golden Globes is this an
62:02
awesome show and it gets gotten no love
62:04
awards why's the Emmys have stole the
62:07
nominations still haven't been announced
62:08
have they I'm mad I'll think so yeah so
62:10
there's still the chance there I guess
62:11
but Regina King deserved another
62:14
the writing the I mean the effects okay
62:17
but the writing definitely deserves some
62:19
love and also apparently this has got
62:21
really low ratings so far so nobody's
62:23
watching it again this is something I
62:25
kind of read skimmed but I hadn't
62:27
haven't done a deep dive into it but we
62:29
need another season of this we need
62:32
another season not sure not sure okay
62:34
I'll say this I can never ask a story to
62:39
have another sequel if I don't know how
62:41
it's gonna end at the same time if
62:44
Angela becomes a god if a black woman
62:47
becomes a god just for the last 10
62:48
minutes of a show I would be
62:49
disappointed if that happens we need to
62:52
see that be expanded in the next season
62:53
it doesn't have to be all about race
62:55
again although I would think would be
62:56
hard to take it away from there but I
62:58
know there's so many loose ends what the
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heck is going on with Veidt because we
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can't just leave him there
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trapped on Europa trying to escape and
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never able to do that although if he's
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on Europa it does beg the question who
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is supposed to see that save me message
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that he put out there really true I
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don't know there's a lot of questions I
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don't know if they'll be able to answer
63:19
them in 50 minutes next week but I
63:20
really hope so they've answered a lot of
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questions in short time so I can
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definite out they have yeah and it's
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probably the most it's probably the
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easiest answer just presented in a
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really cool way yeah so bring it on
63:31
sister Manhattan you better have afro a
63:33
big blue fro oh yeah she's like just
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blows it out but we're closed we don't
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need any of that like hyper
63:40
sexualization of the black body going on
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blue body blue body right or you could
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just wear a really big dress with your
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ass out exactly
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just shoot laser beam some thong yeah I
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mean if there's any indication that's
63:57
how you get nominated for an award so if
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you want that amine hey come on
64:03
bring it on wow that went in a direction
64:05
that I really didn't see coming this
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concludes this episode of blurred up
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