
Astronomy Club Is The New In Living Color: BlerdUp Episode 41
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00:00 BlerdUp BlerdUp welcome to the 00:01 show where we talk about nerd culture 00:02 from a BPOV a black POV you can find 00:05 us on Spotify and Apple podcast we are 00:08 on Facebook @ BL er DUP we are on 00:11 Twitter at BOE Rd you and Lee are on 00:14 instagram @ BL er D period you P you can 00:18 find us on tor.com those are our 00:20 sponsors we check them out lots of great 00:22 nerdy cultural goodness from through a 00:26 black lens I am your host Brendan and 00:30 I'm joined by Mel hello hello we have a 00:35 lot to talk about today do Liz owned 00:37 headlines or and talk about some 00:40 trailers specifically wonder them in 00:42 1984 we're going to talk about that new 00:44 sketch comedy show astronomy club and 00:47 we're going to talk about the latest 00:49 episode of Watchmen Liz Oh hidden the 00:53 headlines yeah 00:54 our 2019 Entertainer of the Year I'm 00:57 very proud of her congratulations you 00:59 know I've said before on this show that 01:01 I love Liz oh yeah I don't know if 01:04 everybody I did actually in our in the 01:07 hip-hop way I also mentioned that I 01:08 didn't I wasn't really sure though where 01:11 her where her platform was coming from I 01:14 love her music but it was kind of weird 01:15 that she's always like look at me I'm 01:17 big and I still love myself and 01:19 beautiful and not being a woman of size 01:21 myself I don't necessarily think it's my 01:23 job to say what her experience is I 01:26 can't validate or invalidate it 01:28 obviously I can just accept it and say 01:29 yeah okay girl do you but I the thing 01:32 that confused me was I was never really 01:34 sure when it became uncool for black R 01:39 singers to not be skinny cuz there's 01:42 always been big black R&B; singers 01:44 there's always been plus-size black 01:46 women in R&B; and hip-hop I mean look at 01:48 Missy Elliott who Liz Oh kind of took 01:50 the torch from she's not necessarily 01:51 Plus as anymore but she started that way 01:53 true so I don't know she was kind of 01:56 talking like nobody had ever loved 01:58 plus-sized black women and black music I 02:00 think in the crossover space it was 02:02 different and yeah hmm I think when it 02:05 comes to Missy Elliott mm-hmm I think 02:08 because she had kind of a gimmick beyond 02:12 her size that she had 02:13 extremely creative music videos and 02:17 choreography and the videos she had a 02:19 gimmick beyond mistress I swear I think 02:21 that yeah 02:22 Liz oh is kind of making her size 02:25 the gimmick as it were I don't want to 02:28 kind of dismiss yeah I said that in a 02:30 dismissive way right I mean yeah I mean 02:33 she talks about it a lot but I don't 02:35 think that's a bad thing I just I'm just 02:37 sort of startled that her platform kind 02:39 of seems to be you know necessarily her 02:42 platform because she's never said this 02:44 but when people talk about her they act 02:45 like she is the first plus-size black 02:47 woman to ever be famous I think she's 02:49 the first plus-size black woman to be 02:51 explicitly famous in a crossover space 02:53 yes but I think that we have always 02:56 appreciated plus-size black whores 02:58 I think but again I am NOT I'm not 03:01 plus-sized so I can't necessarily speak 03:04 to that 03:05 I've just been perplexed by that I think 03:07 I think you could definitely speak on 03:08 your observations in regards to mm-hmm 03:11 music should we all observe the same 03:13 right music Jill Scott was one of my 03:15 first exactly hmm I think Jill Scott was 03:18 the first Valentine's Day present I ever 03:20 got really got herself her know her her 03:27 vol 1 it's great shout out to Stephanie 03:35 throughout there thank you now what 03:38 Stephanie a plus-sized black woman this 03:40 is where the roots the road 03:41 she was Plus or black okay 03:47 but check shake it taste yeah she did 03:49 okay you know so anyway let's we're okay 03:53 yeah let's not go down that road lose oh 03:54 speaking of Liz oh yes so I randomly 03:58 started going on Facebook and I saw a 04:01 couple assesses about Liz oh Turkey at a 04:04 baseball game and considering all that's 04:07 going on in my life personally and just 04:09 what's going on in the news and in the 04:10 world I really had no time to really 04:12 care about this 04:13 so you actually talk about in the show 04:16 yeah cuz my timeline has blown up 04:18 Twitter or Facebook everyone seen it 04:20 Instagram I've seen it so many times but 04:22 the thing is I have only I I had to go 04:24 looking for the actual video because I 04:26 just saw 04:27 much commentary about Liz oh and it all 04:29 seemed to be coming from all these 04:30 different sides and it was also 04:32 vitriolic that I had to go look up the 04:34 video and well we'll see what you have 04:37 to say about it yeah so I told Mel that 04:39 I would find the video and I would watch 04:41 it for the first time live and we'll see 04:43 how I how I feel about okay so I got it 04:46 pulled up here mhm 04:47 so here we go she's standing up 04:50 everyone's kind of looking at the 04:51 jumbotron I guess and she starts dancing 04:54 you know oh you just got that video oh 04:57 okay oh oh wow what I'm just oh wow okay 05:03 I haven't actually seen this video I 05:04 just saw the one where she does the 05:06 dress reveal in the hallway of the 05:07 Staples Center on the way to her seat oh 05:09 yeah so I haven't seen the actual twerk 05:12 video okay I mean who cares if you 05:14 worked with your apps out of baseball 05:15 get her what baseball game basketball 05:17 game because we have cheerleaders that's 05:20 their whole job 05:22 yeah I mean they're just a lot smaller 05:24 my overall stance is uh there's really 05:27 too much going on the world like let her 05:29 live like there's really nothing that's 05:31 gonna move the needle on anything of 05:33 significance who cares right exactly I 05:37 mean here's my thing what tickled me was 05:39 just how uh new on so much of the 05:41 commentary was it was either I mean 05:44 people really do seem to have this 05:46 feeling like you can't have a dissenting 05:48 opinion unless it falls into a stance 05:50 that you already know about right so 05:52 people were either like oh you're so fat 05:55 phobic because you don't think that Liz 05:57 Oh looks good in that dress well I'm 05:58 sorry I'm not fat phobic but I 06:00 personally think that that's a really 06:01 ugly dress I thought I saw the reveal at 06:04 first and I thought that it was like 06:05 there was something wrong I thought like 06:07 her dress had gotten caught in an 06:08 escalator or something because it just 06:10 looked so chewed up from the back I 06:11 think this was beautiful but that dress 06:13 is not her dress sorry I mean mm-hmm 06:16 a thought or no ass out I mean it's just 06:18 I don't think it's a cute dress but that 06:21 said it doesn't matter if she likes it 06:23 so wear your dress girl torque I don't 06:25 care I don't have to like it I don't put 06:27 food in Liz's mouth or what's the 06:29 expression food on her table or teeth in 06:34 her mouth I don't know what the 06:35 expression is I'm old and black but I'm 06:36 not okay I don't know these expressions 06:39 but you get the idea 06:40 no I 06:40 my point is my point is though just 06:47 because you don't like what lizzo does 06:49 it doesn't matter because she likes it 06:51 and she's making money and she's time 06:52 entertainer of the year and it's not 06:54 that important but yeah I mean you hit 06:56 him head that dress it looks like she's 06:59 wearing her like really big brothers 07:01 shirt yeah I'm just like cut out an ass 07:05 yeah 07:08 and this'll can be very sexy but that to 07:11 me is not her at her sexiest no did look 07:13 like a mistake it's not a cute dress 07:15 but blues those beautiful so she can 07:17 wear whatever she wants I don't care 07:18 yeah the daily show me to joke about she 07:20 sat in the and the cushion seats that 07:23 absorbs all the all the bacteria so why 07:26 would you put your bare butt head oh she 07:30 was sitting on a seat in the Staples 07:31 Center and it wasn't like you know it's 07:33 a regular like seat it was like a 07:35 cushioned seat so they absorb more 07:38 things okay well I mean hey again it's 07:42 not my ass if she wants to put her ass 07:44 on it public zoo she can afford the 07:47 health care right exactly exactly she's 07:50 fine live you can have your opinion I 07:53 certainly have mine but some people are 07:55 taking it to a really extra level you 07:57 know that's that's a part of our culture 07:59 now everyone has to have some extra man 08:01 pinion it's amazing yes girl do it for 08:05 the culture or it's trash exactly it's 08:08 like you know you can have an opinion 08:09 that has nothing to do with either of 08:10 those extreme stances and still support 08:12 the artist I like her album I have her 08:14 album but I'm not gonna buy that dress I 08:16 keep saying that I really don't like 08:18 that dress but whatever again it doesn't 08:19 matter what I think 08:20 yeah well I called it ugly dress stupid 08:24 opinion gate on my personal facebook 08:26 page so people are taking it way too far 08:29 no I agree 08:30 meanwhile the world is on fire right I 08:33 mean come on 08:34 who are you voting for gosh I said okay 08:37 again I'm old but I bought that old and 08:39 all of a sudden I almost took myself to 08:41 a level where I sounded super old I was 08:43 literally like who are you voting for 08:44 stop buying chicken sandwiches little is 08:46 Oh Liv wait no stop sorry too far and 08:48 turn into Huey from the boondocks 08:50 exactly all right Liz oh is dunzo yes 08:53 exactly 08:54 live moving on go buy her album listen 08:56 to it it's great also buy her time 08:59 spread because that dress wasn't sexy 09:00 but her spread in Time magazine is very 09:03 sexy and very fashion okay there were a 09:07 lot of trailers that came out over the 09:10 past week there was new Ghostbusters 09:12 trailer a new Wonder Woman trailer and 09:15 there's one more than I'm blinking you 09:17 know and I'm pretty sure oh there's a 09:19 new change bond trailer' oh gosh I 09:21 completely blanked on that was out so I 09:24 don't know if you're just joining this 09:26 show for the first time I personally do 09:28 not watch trailers for films that I know 09:29 I'm going to see I like to see it's kind 09:32 of like I'm starting also not to listen 09:34 to singles on albums before the album 09:37 comes out I like to just like a like a a 09:40 movie scene I like to see it in the 09:41 context of the film I like to be 09:44 surprised and amazed or moved right and 09:48 and at that moment that's interesting so 09:52 yeah so but that being said I did catch 09:56 us a snippet of Wonder Woman because you 09:58 know as you scroll on Instagram or 10:00 Facebook they just did had that autoplay 10:02 and so I saw something that I feared and 10:07 have you seen the one over in I don't 10:10 have this intensive stance on trailers 10:12 issue two I'll usually watch one or 10:14 maybe two but I just want to watch the 10:16 film most of the time for me trailers 10:18 are usually every film has two minutes 10:20 of interesting footage in it so a 10:22 trailer doesn't really tell me much 10:23 about a film I've enjoyed films I've 10:25 seen without a trailer much more than 10:27 three out then films I've seen with one 10:28 mm-hmm 10:30 so I'm gonna tell you what I saw and 10:32 then I give you my pain on it and then 10:34 you can tell me if I'm wrong 10:36 I only saw literally like five seconds 10:38 I'll tell you right now you're wrong 10:39 stop eating chicken sandwiches anyway 10:41 okay vote vote Labour okay so I think 10:51 did I talk about this on the Captain 10:53 Marvel review possibly but I didn't like 10:55 wonderment too much and one of my main 10:59 beefs is that she's literally Superman 11:01 and honestly if you asked me whose power 11:05 set would you rather have Superman or 11:06 Wonder Woman I would honestly choose one 11:08 why well Superman's his power source is 11:13 the Sun one of them doesn't we have a 11:15 source it's just she's just badass all 11:17 the time even though she can be pierced 11:21 by sharp objects and be heard her 11:24 healing factor and her just ability to 11:26 withstand pain is so great that it's 11:28 that's really net negligible Batman does 11:34 not have powers he's a boy hey hold on 11:39 I'm being a bet okay why so Superman 11:42 acts Batman a question he said who's 11:44 faster Wonder Woman or me and Batman 11:48 said or axed who's faster hüseyin bolt 11:51 or Bruce Lee oh that's interesting 11:55 yes although the flash got no love in 11:58 that conversation she's well the flash 12:01 is easily the faster first immigrants 12:03 but even Wonder Woman can keep up with 12:04 him at cruising speed so it isn't it you 12:06 know so I mean she really has a great 12:08 power set and that and that's just 12:09 beyond her knowing like crazy languages 12:13 and all these other little little things 12:15 that you can wiki when I see in the 12:18 trailer for Wonder Woman and in the 12:19 movie her big set pieces her crashing 12:21 through a window in fighting ten Germans 12:24 it's like this is whack would you ever 12:27 give Superman a trailer where his big 12:30 set pieces fighting 10 regular humans in 12:35 a room who do you think he is Batman 12:36 yeah or Captain America those are their 12:39 scenes yeah those are for those that 12:42 level of hero not for one woman so when 12:44 I saw everyone's heaviness as a feminist 12:46 oh my god yes I'm like you know in a way 12:49 of course of course yeah director the 12:52 actress and just how as we talked about 12:55 in the review how Diana sees herself and 12:58 and infused the world I think it was 13:00 really cool yeah 13:01 but on the hero level I was very 13:04 unimpressed and I hoped that now they 13:07 have his fortune out of the way they can 13:10 actually give her a movie that's worthy 13:12 of her abilities and so when I was 13:15 scrolling through Instagram and like I 13:18 briefly saw a scene I saw her once again 13:20 in some 13:21 like Lobby or something sliding across 13:24 the floor in her signature way beating 13:27 up dudes and I'm like literally you're 13:28 Wonder Woman does Superman have to slide 13:30 across the floor to like topple a 13:32 security guard right that's a good point 13:35 I was I'm just I'm sick of it yeah like 13:38 you were not one but two movies were 13:41 really letting her down right well I 13:45 don't know I was there more in the 13:47 trailer that showed her doing more it 13:51 looked alright but again every movie has 13:53 two minutes of interesting footage and 13:55 there they must be keeping the big stuff 13:58 for the actual film which I could 14:00 appreciate right now since this is the 14:01 first trailer but to be fair I so far 14:05 that film just from the trailer that I 14:07 saw looks very much like a nostalgia 14:08 piece yeah I don't know what they're 14:10 doing with the male lead they've got a 14:11 lot of splainin to do I don't know if 14:14 you saw that I mean I know he's back 14:15 okay yeah Steve Trevor Trevor yeah it's 14:18 back I don't know how they've got to 14:21 explain that and they didn't explain it 14:23 in the trailer so I guess I'm madly 14:27 intrigued but my thing about wonder what 14:30 the first Wonder Woman movie is that I 14:32 don't really like putting superhero 14:34 stories in the backdrop of real wars 14:37 clumsily which I thought they did 14:38 I thought the villain was wack oh yeah 14:41 Kristen Wiig okay she has potential I 14:44 think she could be a badass cheetah but 14:45 from the bitch you see of her in the 14:46 trailer you don't even know that she's 14:48 she just looks like an adoring fan 14:50 that's how I think it's how they wrote 14:52 it yeah yeah which is fine but I mean 14:54 I'm interested to see what she does 14:55 because I do like Kristen Wiig I think 14:57 she's underrated as a talent in a lot of 14:59 ways there so we'll see what she does 15:01 with that I'm looking forward to that 15:02 but I'm just worried that it's gonna be 15:04 a boring nostalgia piece and I'm not a 15:06 huge fan of gal gadot she's kind of got 15:09 this sort of strange otherworldly energy 15:11 which should work at her advantage but 15:13 she just sort of seems disconnected from 15:15 the whole everything but then again I 15:18 might just be Hayden oh no either way I 15:21 don't know I'll see it well we have to 15:25 yeah it is kind of our job a job but 15:28 aren't ya responsibilities aren't yes 15:30 exactly free action for you the people 15:32 yes for you dear listeners we will see 15:34 Wonder Woman 15:35 and hope that it's not mediocre I'm sure 15:37 it'll be alright just like next week's 15:39 movie the rise of Skywalker 15:42 oh god that's next week next week oh 15:44 geez 15:45 I completely forgot yeah yes our lane 15:48 for tickets to eat on we don't get it 15:50 shut out yeah I won't okay okay anyway 15:54 I'll see it but I just kind of feel I'm 15:57 not the trailer didn't make me want to 15:59 see it I'm going to see it despite the 16:00 trailer not because of the trailer 16:02 I miss really exciting trailers I think 16:04 the last trailer I saw that I was super 16:06 super excited to see the film for was 16:08 the second Matrix movie like that's the 16:12 last time I saw chiller was like let me 16:13 see this movie and I got hurt and ever 16:15 since then I've been like I don't 16:17 believe you trailer I don't care how 16:18 awesome you are 16:19 infinity war in game no no to be honest 16:22 I don't even think I watched those 16:23 trailers no wait I did watch the endgame 16:25 trailer and I was interested but I knew 16:27 that they were gonna fake us out cuz 16:29 Marvel's got a history of doing that and 16:30 they did pretty bad I mean they paid 16:32 Okoye dust in endgame but she was all 16:34 through the trailer that's true so in 16:35 that pose I took off the poster yeah 16:38 well they put her but they put her on 16:39 the poster finally yeah finally when 16:41 people complained but though it makes 16:42 total sense now that she wasn't on the 16:44 poster because she was barely in the 16:45 movie she did kill glee though Corby 16:49 exclu glaive whatever is Janice I don't 16:52 know his government I don't know I saw 16:59 the Ghostbusters trailer that you're 17:01 about to talk about I'm gonna talk about 17:03 it cuz I have never seen it I haven't 17:04 seen it okay I didn't finish the trailer 17:06 because I was actually bored by it and 17:09 it's Paul Rudd he's yeah he's the right 17:11 person I guess I had heard rumors that 17:13 the remaining the living original cast 17:16 was returning for this yeah I watched 17:17 the trailer hoping to see them and they 17:19 just never showed up and it was just 17:20 eleventh boyfriend from stranger things 17:23 looking tall and awkward and gawky and 17:26 teenage and I was like okay I think I've 17:28 seen this movie before but just without 17:30 ghosts so I got bored and turned it off 17:33 I'll see that film but the trailer 17:35 didn't do anything for me okay mm-hmm 17:37 James Bond I'm really excited to see a 17:40 black double 7 woman but and she was the 17:44 homie from from a Captain Marvel right 17:46 that was mm-hmm 17:48 yeah I completely forgot I haven't seen 17:51 that trailer at all 17:51 mm-hmm yeah we'll see but it still 17:54 Daniel Craig too and I think that's why 17:56 I stopped being excited about bond 17:57 Daniel Craig has never been bond to me I 18:00 mean he was really good in the first 18:03 film where he was bond and then he just 18:05 kind of gets progressively Saghir and 18:08 leathery er and it's just very like I 18:10 was just looking at him like sir let 18:13 somebody else do it look like you're 18:15 about to break a hit my man speaking of 18:17 him though I finally saw knives out yes 18:19 what'd you think it was very good I 18:20 really liked it it's I thought it was it 18:23 was a great trauma I thought I knew it 18:25 and then yeah I had something it's maybe 18:28 it's when those films where it's like 18:30 whatever you think it is correct yeah 18:32 there were some things I guess in the 18:34 end but the way that they get there yeah 18:36 it's really well written because you 18:37 know the test of good writing is even if 18:38 you know what's gonna happen you want to 18:40 see how it plays out right so you do 18:41 kind of know what's gonna happen but you 18:43 want to see how it plays out they tell 18:45 you everything that's gonna happen in 18:46 the film in the first 30 minutes but 18:48 it's just so much fun to watch it all 18:49 unfold sure and what did you think of 18:52 our boy Captain America playing a 18:53 horrible person it was great 18:55 I'd loved that yeah mm-hmm it wasn't 18:57 like he like you know slim down 40 which 19:00 is big-ass totally it was great oh gosh 19:11 that's amazing 19:13 but yeah there was that and then I think 19:15 the girl from that the nurse I think 19:19 she's the new Bond girl isn't she I'm 19:21 not sure I I feel like I heard that 19:23 somewhere I don't know I'll look it up 19:24 while we talk about more stuff keep 19:26 going okay mm-hmm Leslie went to a 19:27 Shradha me Club hi so it was you put me 19:31 onto this yes it's the blurred sketch 19:32 show yeah it's great guys 19:35 you know sometimes Netflix just quietly 19:37 puts things out and I guess it's up to 19:40 people to just kind of use their 19:42 word-of-mouth to advertise it but yeah 19:44 so this there's Tommy Club premiered on 19:47 Netflix last week last weekend mm-hmm 19:49 this is a new sketch comedy show with an 19:52 all-black cast and apparently is from 19:54 the producers of blackish yeah I think 19:56 so I don't usually know details like 19:59 that okay I believe so I'll believe you 20:00 okay 20:02 what's even more special is that with in 20:05 the cast 20:06 they often explore and make fun of 20:08 different shades of blackness very much 20:10 yeah 20:10 so there's a person who is hood black 20:13 one lady is Huxtable black yeah when 20:16 it's Canadian black yes there's the 20:18 super nerdy guy who people can't ignore 20:21 and and and make fun of there's mixed 20:23 ethnicities queer yeah and there's 20:27 insecurities about colorism and 20:28 interracial spouses parents mm-hmm it's 20:32 a super black show I was pleasantly 20:33 surprised by the level of blackness and 20:35 the level of nerdiness yeah and just 20:37 it's really creative and funny at the 20:39 same time I've watched the whole season 20:41 twice since I put you on I really uh it 20:44 was funny it wasn't like guffaw funny 20:46 the whole time but I just loved the 20:47 ideas they were putting down I wanted to 20:49 give it the extra view no they were 20:50 fantastic fantastic I want to briefly 20:53 talk about the cast and I got this 20:54 information from refinery29 20:57 comm there's ray Cordova shontayne Bowen 21:02 he was apparently a technician on The 21:06 Sopranos because he looks so ethnically 21:10 ambiguous yeah okay 21:12 Jonathan Bray Locke his a podcast he 21:16 co-hosts a podcast called black men 21:17 can't jump in Hollywood oh that's 21:19 interesting 21:19 great name yeah I definitely want when I 21:21 want to listen to that now right and 21:24 he's actually on the podcast with two 21:26 other people that are on the show he's 21:29 appeared in unbreakable kimmy schmitt 21:32 broad city oh that's where I've seen him 21:34 before yes okay and happen to be single 21:36 mm-hmm James the third he writes for the 21:40 rebooted version of all that on 21:42 Nickelodeon there's a rebooted version 21:44 of all that I am missing out with this 21:47 expat life Matt I'm not sure if it's 21:49 it's out now or it's coming oh okay well 21:51 if it's out I've gotta look pretty sure 21:53 Keenan and killer like helping to 21:55 produce it I'm not sure it's actually 21:57 out yet but I could be wrong oh okay 21:58 well I'll check it out later 22:00 he also wrote for Adam ruins everything 22:03 he's been on modern family brought city 22:07 black mirror last week tonight with John 22:09 Oliver and Late Night with Seth Meyers 22:15 is also you know there are a lot of 22:17 James Bond because I've been looking for 22:19 that girl the whole time you've been 22:20 talking and I've just been scrolling 22:22 through endless pages of lists of James 22:24 Bond movies this is insane 22:25 keep going okay okay there is Jeremy 22:29 legen he was also in broad city hmm he 22:33 also worked as a producer on vh1 MTV CW 22:37 spike he also helped produce wallet out 22:41 okay this is what accolades between the 22:44 cast there are three women mm-hmm 22:46 Caroline Martin she was also in broad 22:49 city mmm black mirror mm-hmm wait what 22:52 she and black mirror do you know which 22:54 episode not sure okay okay Monique Moses 22:58 was also in broad city a lotta broad 23:00 city yeah a lot of broad cities but 23:02 brought cities like the news but second 23:05 city that is the second city the troop 23:08 that produced all those SNL people I 23:10 feel like broad cities the new version 23:12 of that oh sure sure yeah she was in 23:15 broad city full-frontal with Samantha 23:18 bee and The Daily Show and lastly we 23:20 have Keisha's Zoller she's the only one 23:22 I'd heard of before watching this I've 23:24 seen her stand-up she's quite funny okay 23:25 mm-hmm but she's the only one who or she 23:28 has not appeared on broad city yeah she 23:30 was a writer for the opposition with 23:33 Jordan Klepper and a writing supervisor 23:36 for busy tonight and she's been a number 23:39 of things like orange is the new black 23:40 and divorce Wow that's a show I just I 23:45 don't watch enough TV there's so much 23:46 too much yeah yeah okay quick timeout 23:49 yes the nurse from knives out is in fact 23:53 the new Bond girl her name is alain de 23:55 armas okay also rami malek is the 23:57 villain yeah I was I did I knew that I'm 23:59 accessible so I'm excited to see that 24:01 actress was really good of knives out 24:02 I'm excited to see her in something else 24:04 but I still haven't watched the bond 24:05 trailer back to our regularly scheduled 24:07 programming I'm excited for rami malek 24:10 i over everything i just blew i loved 24:12 mr. robot so regularly scheduled 24:15 programming oh okay 24:17 you want a fan i just haven't seen it 24:19 you haven't haven't yeah okay so again 24:23 let's go back to them just exploring 24:25 their shades of blackness this is 24:28 in this kind of ongoing reoccurring 24:31 narrative so like a black lady sketch 24:33 show the actors have committed its ads 24:35 themselves between the true sketches so 24:37 for the former show they somehow 24:39 survived like in Apocalypse and they're 24:41 just joking and roasting each other and 24:43 they certainly deal with aspects of 24:45 black femininity as well right for 24:47 astronomy club they're in a reality show 24:50 where they're living together in a house 24:51 this part of the Netflix deal they 24:54 really do a good job of kind of calling 24:55 back to the old-school real world format 24:57 yeah like I was very cleverly done it 24:59 was really funny yeah and it's so we get 25:02 to know them seriously in some ways but 25:04 also we see other aspects of their 25:06 comedic chops and it's really great 25:08 there's a hilarious bit where I think 25:11 Caroline is her name she's she's I think 25:14 I'm a mixed woman and she tries to prove 25:16 her blackness by cooking soul food group 25:19 everybody hates it everybody's like oh 25:22 this is really good jello just like oh 25:23 that's the mac and cheese yeah yeah but 25:26 I mean it's just so funny and creative 25:28 and its really effortlessly showcasing 25:30 the diversity that exists within 25:31 blackness yes and this the humor and the 25:34 cross sections of where our humor meets 25:35 as well there's a bunch of other skits 25:38 my personal favorite skit is also 25:41 probably the nerdiest skit it has a lot 25:43 to do with Dungeons & Dragons and that's 25:46 all I'll tell you right now but it is 25:47 very black and very funny and there's a 25:50 surprise I think that really made me 25:52 laugh if you've ever been black and 25:53 worked in media with a lot of white 25:55 people 25:55 you'll love it no it's fantastic yeah so 25:58 it's really well done but again it's 26:00 also really nerdy like they've got a lot 26:01 of references to really funny kind of 26:04 nerd culture things as well which is 26:05 great yeah I think some of the sketches 26:08 are really inspired you mentioned I 26:10 think the the D&D; sketch was probably my 26:13 favorite 26:13 I also liked one about Robin Hood yeah 26:16 yeah that was very funny Robin Hood 26:19 robbing a house owned by black people 26:21 yes 26:22 and we see how that how that they kind 26:24 of turned Mythology on its head and I 26:25 liked how they did that that was there's 26:28 a magical Negro Clinic yes I thought 26:31 about you the whole time we're movie 26:33 characters go to learn how not to help 26:35 white people what makes what about that 26:38 made you think about me wait a minute 26:40 no because you 26:42 about Stephen King oh yeah that's catch 26:48 yeah okay there were a lot of really 26:50 funny sketches and then they're not 26:51 always like super hard-hitting as far as 26:53 black and some of them are also just 26:54 kind of pop-culture commentary there's a 26:56 funny one about ASMR yeah yeah they're 26:59 just it's just very current and very 27:01 lively and I really liked it I suggest 27:03 watching it it's not a really long 27:05 season there's only six episodes and 27:06 they're all about 20 minutes long as 27:08 well so it does it's not a long watch 27:10 but it's definitely worth it I've 27:11 watched it twice there's a sketch about 27:13 Blackpoint I really enjoy - okay that 27:15 one that being a partaker of the porn 27:18 myself I wasn't really into that but 27:20 okay I got the point it was it was funny 27:21 and it made a really good point I 27:23 thought oh it exactly I I think they're 27:26 they kind of made parodies of famous 27:29 black films yeah and that was the part 27:32 that really then what was the the quote 27:34 let's let's let's check out some of this 27:36 blacks excellence some of the like the 27:41 puns they have in here and just I 27:43 thought it was really funny it's really 27:45 quotable as well if you watch it let us 27:46 know what your favorite quote is in the 27:47 comments and sketch yeah because we 27:50 thought it was funny I thought it was 27:51 yeah like you said I don't think 27:54 everything hits for me like that 27:56 mhm I think some of the editing is great 27:58 I think a lot of the editing in the 28:01 reality-show section of the show is 28:04 really good like though they'll they'll 28:06 cut at really great times yeah they've 28:08 got really good comedic timing and you 28:09 can tell a lot of them have worked 28:10 together over time yeah they really play 28:12 off each other well and sometimes it's a 28:14 little too subtle though like you you 28:16 can tell that they're used to working 28:17 together in like maybe an improv or a 28:19 stage kind of kind of space because 28:22 they're doing a lot of kind of side bits 28:23 and there's a lot of funny background 28:24 events yeah but that doesn't always play 28:26 as well to the cameras I think you think 28:28 yes I say that I think I've only watched 28:33 two and most of the third episode a 28:36 couple of them ran a little too long in 28:39 Loserville steam so I hope maybe in the 28:42 next season they can kind of tighten 28:44 that up I hope there is a next season 28:46 watch it so there is one because I need 28:49 more of this totally I mean like those 28:52 nitpicks aside I'm really excited to see 28:53 more from the same as you say 28:54 and if they have the capacity to do some 28:56 like weekly SNL like show I would 28:58 totally be down might be all into that 29:00 like a in living color style show I'd 29:02 let me Matt I think this show is like an 29:04 r-rated in living color for Millennials 29:08 yeah okay all black and live in color 29:10 for Millennials yeah in living color for 29:12 nerds for Bloods but yeah you know we 29:15 see glimpses of black comedic excellence 29:18 on SNL with the Kenan and his like his 29:20 black jeopardy show I really like that 29:22 show a lot those those haven't been my 29:24 favorite sketches of recent times that 29:25 one with Tom Hanks that was brilliant 29:27 brilliant 29:28 what can a skinny woman do for you and 29:30 what is not a damn thing I mean he's 29:36 beat I feel like Kenan people say he's 29:39 not funny but I think he's way funnier 29:41 than Leslie Jones number one and I think 29:42 the fact that he's always been a sketch 29:44 comedian like that's been his whole life 29:46 in the public eye yeah makes people kind 29:47 of undercut him a bit because I think 29:49 he's actually consistently when he's 29:51 funny he's really funny 29:53 but I think because he's on SNL and that 29:56 show as cutting edge as it tries to be 29:58 is still coming from a fairly limited 30:00 cultural perspective absolutely 30:02 but I think that Cayenne in political 30:04 perspective right and I think it kind of 30:05 messes him up sometimes I think there's 30:07 times when he doesn't really get to 30:08 shine even though he's been on the show 30:09 for a million years at this point I 30:11 don't think it gets to shine as much as 30:12 he could I'm excited because he's got a 30:15 new sitcom coming out and right here is 30:17 to see what's gonna happen with that but 30:19 yeah if we had a show where it was all 30:21 it almost feels like the grown and the 30:23 grown-up version of all that with just 30:25 the black cast member some way like it's 30:26 yeah I really irate astronomy club I 30:29 really do I love it go see it let us 30:32 know what you thought of astronomy club 30:33 in the comments shall we go on to 30:38 Watchmen yeah you know our main event 30:41 for the past few weeks has been the 30:43 delicious finally spiced well-prepared 30:47 dish that is the watchman hmm and it was 30:49 it was extra bootylicious this time my 30:53 gosh let's uh again if you're new to our 30:56 show we are going to spoil the latest 30:59 episode of Washington so you haven't 31:01 seen it turn off now three didn't listen 31:06 to 31:07 one here we go 31:10 whoa that was a lot of black men nudity 31:13 Wow I there was a point where I kind of 31:16 I looked away and I looked back and it 31:17 was just like Kapow hello 31:19 and I had to look full disclosure I have 31:22 a confession I ran it back and watched 31:24 it again but no kidding but yeah so last 31:31 week we expressed reservations about the 31:34 idea that they were just going to paint 31:36 striking Viper 31:38 yeah Abdul mattina his new name is is 31:40 blue Manta yes we had reservations that 31:46 they were going to paint that actor blue 31:47 and have this really awkward 31:49 interpretation of of dr. Manhattan we 31:54 were right in some ways and this is what 31:56 the this is the genius of the show they 31:58 keep doing things that we say we hope 32:00 they don't do it because it'll be stupid 32:01 but they do it in a way that is so good 32:03 so they did paint him blue mostly yeah 32:06 most of the time yes exactly they did 32:07 paint him blue but it was not awkward 32:11 almost at all there were a couple 32:14 moments where I was like okay but 32:17 overall the effect was much better than 32:20 I thought 32:21 they use a couple of interesting visual 32:23 devices to kind of ease you into it 32:25 so you're not just like why that black 32:27 man blue it's so yeah yeah I think this 32:31 is one of the strongest episodes as far 32:33 as writing okay no that's not you I said 32:38 I said that episode six 32:41 this is true Navy being was the best and 32:44 then I said the one after that was 32:45 strong in regards to advancing the story 32:48 okay okay and I think this is very 32:51 strong as far as I'm gonna get a 32:53 vestment story for sure but also just 32:54 the writing and directing because with 32:56 with this episode you have dr. Manhattan 33:00 John going through time in different 33:02 ways it's been happening on the show 33:05 mm-hmm we're almost regularly however 33:08 this is again just a fresh way to do it 33:11 right because again you know with 33:13 episode six we're going through time 33:14 through Angela and her grandfather do 33:17 these pills right but now we're seeing 33:19 the world 33:21 through John's eyes yeah and it's a very 33:24 unique way to do this again to keep 33:27 making the concept of of time right and 33:30 that's kind of how they solve the 33:31 problem of will this man looks silly if 33:33 we just paint him blue and put him in 33:35 this episode they solve it by putting it 33:37 through his perspective and explaining 33:39 vividly why he still looks why he looks 33:42 the way he looks blue or black okay 33:45 which is interesting I you know did I 33:49 I'm not on Twitter a lot but I did go on 33:52 Twitter to see what Regina King and blue 33:55 Manta had to say about their roles in 33:56 this particular episode and there is a 33:59 video of Abdullah Mateen just like but 34:02 he's basically the caption is something 34:03 like my reaction to all of y'all 34:05 watching this episode and he's just 34:07 cackling he thinks it's hilarious 34:08 because nobody would have guessed and I 34:12 honestly thought that they were going to 34:14 cast somebody else in the role of dr. 34:15 Manhattan and not actually have him play 34:18 it all so yo this is the blackest show 34:22 on television like and I was not 34:24 expecting that and every week they up 34:26 the blackness your God is black now 34:29 basis deal with it basically and I have 34:32 overpowered superhero in all of comics 34:35 Canon is a black man Canon but if you 34:39 think about it okay who's more Opie than 34:42 dr. Manhattan Oh within their universe 34:45 okay in the DC Universe well because 34:47 he's he's part of DC so that's Wayne but 34:50 wait a minute though but the thing about 34:52 Watchmen is that Watchmen is very much 34:53 it's always contained it's contained 34:55 technically it's not now but but no no 34:58 it actually is a part of DC no they had 35:01 a really big crossover event I want to 35:03 say just a couple years ago see this is 35:05 why I don't read DC they do silly stuff 35:06 like this and mess it up that was the 35:08 best dr. manhattan's the reason why a 35:09 lot of the DC characters like Batman is 35:11 younger now and that's because he he 35:16 like they keep extending expanding his 35:18 powers so he originally he perceived 35:21 time differently he manipulated matter 35:22 and energy and all this cool stuff sure 35:25 but then they started giving him more 35:26 powers he can kind of manipulate reality 35:29 and create life as wolf this is why alan 35:32 moore stays mad in the woods stirring 35:34 his witch 35:35 that's ridiculous to do to that 35:37 character but okay okay I didn't realize 35:39 that I mean at this point is pretty old 35:40 P now though yeah mmm anyway yes let's 35:43 uh okay moving on good let us not call 35:46 up the dark God Alan more we have a lot 35:48 to talk about I do I do and talk about 35:51 how he looked yes a bit so you seem less 35:54 impressed than I do so I'm interested to 35:56 hear what you have to say yeah I think 35:59 it was smart that they kept him kind of 36:00 hidden for most of the episode he was in 36:03 the mass they had kind of a CG character 36:06 but you only had his back but once he 36:09 popped up in Angela's living room and he 36:13 was glowing and he had kind of had that 36:15 like hotep yaqoob kind of like thing on 36:19 his head to kind of sew so he didn't 36:21 have to like cut his hair and it you 36:23 know he kind of had this kind of he 36:26 looked like him Squidward but yes but by 36:32 that point okay so this is maybe the 36:34 only body in a living body had the same 36:36 amount of particles about it right is 36:41 that this is maybe the only time I was 36:43 so into how the drama of it that I was 36:46 like okay you know what I'm with it 36:48 handsome Squidward I'm with it it was 36:49 that and then when he glowed it kind of 36:51 had this like kind of low-budget E mm 36:54 almost cable-access glowed to him and I 36:56 I wasn't did you say did you say but 37:04 either way I was so immersed in this 37:06 episode that I did not care that we were 37:07 getting family dollar handsome Squidward 37:10 okay I wrote down some quotes of dr. 37:14 Manhattan in this show and I'm now going 37:16 to only say them in a Squidward just 37:19 because Mel no Milotic is there so 37:22 everyone think thank her for that did 37:27 look like handsome Squidward I totally 37:29 get like like the the memes of like like 37:31 like the hotel guys out there like you 37:33 Kuby with the big brain the big head I 37:41 I'd like you to show how to call backs 37:44 and most of our remaining questions got 37:46 answered yeah 37:48 like you know again just how integrated 37:50 it was where vite says you have a 37:54 fantastic imagination and then he talks 37:57 about Angela and him about the other 37:59 person saying the opposite of it was I 38:03 still don't know what they're doing with 38:05 fight but it was I mean at least they 38:08 explained more this this episode that 38:10 didn't make it really make much more 38:12 sense but fair enough 38:14 that was cool that we saw veidt's 38:17 reactions to his failure hmm you know we 38:20 thought that you know once we closed 38:22 Watchmen really oh man it's a wrap 38:24 mm-hmm but now we see him like almost in 38:27 like old and gray like Batman in the 38:29 cave mm-hmm generating scares to keep 38:31 the world in some sort of check he never 38:32 left yeah he's just been sad and 38:34 depressed the whole that was interesting 38:36 by the way again I'm shocked I actually 38:39 called it didn't I say I think he's on 38:41 Mars he's not on Mars he's on a moon of 38:43 Jupiter or whatever you wrote but but 38:45 yeah close enough right but I was like I 38:47 think he's on Mars being held prisoner 38:48 by dr. Manhattan exactly but I was close 38:53 enough anyway props props I've never 38:57 been able to call a show like this 38:58 before I'm very impressed with myself oh 39:00 you're good you're totally correct 39:03 I like that if I put Doodle game about 39:09 appropriating the appearance of a black 39:10 person yes you know again this is the 39:14 blackest show on television a arguably 39:19 evil totally self-absorbed very 39:24 disconnected from Wheaton from reality 39:26 white billionaire I understands 39:27 appropriation far better than most other 39:31 people so I just thought that was an 39:32 interesting commentary when Vice said a 39:35 little elephant told him about being on 39:37 Europa I mean of course I guess he was 39:39 referring to lady true yeah cuz we had 39:41 that conversation 39:42 okay so have we talked about this on the 39:44 show maybe am I sure I don't think we 39:45 have so weirdly enough you know I'm 39:48 always reading shout out to 39:49 equal-opportunity reader my books to 39:51 Graham brand but I am right now I'm 39:53 reading ocean song I think is the 39:57 pronunciation of this person's name I 39:58 don't know but I'm reading the book on 40:00 earth were briefly gorgeous 40:02 and it's the author's 40:03 vietnamese-american and there's a lot of 40:05 connections to Vietnam and Vietnamese 40:07 culture in the book and as I'm reading 40:08 there's a whole page at a page and a 40:10 half about lady true who is a real 40:13 Vietnamese mythological figure who rides 40:15 an elephant into battle and slaughters 40:17 foreign men this show it might not just 40:21 be the blackest show it's also the most 40:23 Vietnamese show here like I had no idea 40:26 that that was like that her that she was 40:28 named after a real mythological figure 40:30 from Vietnamese culture and I find that 40:31 really cool 40:32 I wonder if they're gonna reveal that 40:35 yeah but you know it was an interesting 40:38 thing to discover that like it kind of 40:40 made me feel the way I guess people 40:42 often people who are not black off and 40:43 feel about black culture I've had people 40:45 like suddenly like discover or suddenly 40:49 realize something that's within black 40:51 culture like I had somebody the other 40:53 day to suddenly realize we're bye 40:54 Felisha came from and I was like you 40:56 don't know that right but it doesn't 40:58 occur to me that they don't know because 40:59 it's our culture and I think maybe it's 41:01 kind of the same thing maybe Vietnamese 41:02 people are who are watching this or like 41:04 I got shot exactly you know you know 41:07 they're like oh we get it right but 41:08 we're like oh wow that's amazing they're 41:10 bringing in new cultures I'm sure there 41:12 are people who watched the the racial 41:16 trauma episode of Watchmen the 41:17 generational trauma episode of Watchmen 41:19 and thought the same thing like we're 41:22 realizing things about black culture 41:23 that they didn't know before that they 41:25 were just putting together the pieces 41:26 and yeah and Tulsa of course yeah right 41:30 yeah exactly 41:31 Wow it's real exactly so in a way maybe 41:34 the lady true references is kind of like 41:36 that as well google it folks yeah it's 41:38 interesting it didn't it a little 41:40 reading and scenting friended a bunch of 41:41 stuff it's interesting I want to get to 41:45 blue mantas showing his pupils and bits 41:48 to everybody almost you know there was a 41:52 little bit love like cutout for modesty 41:54 but not much quite frankly no I think 41:57 you know I think it's kind of messed up 41:59 for this immortal shape-shifting guy to 42:02 just walk up in an old man's home 42:03 slinging his big junk around like oh do 42:07 you want me to put something on Oh Mike 42:08 brought come one you were an asshole 42:13 he's an asshole dr. Manhattan he never 42:17 wears clothes oh how long has it been 42:19 since I seen you John for you sorry I'm 42:22 going back to handsome Squidward for you 42:24 24 years 41 days and 30 13 hours for you 42:29 and you know you know it was like yeah 42:32 yeah I mean I get it like quitting the 42:34 kind of city you come by house 42:36 with your striking Viper all out you 42:39 know they gonna like try to try to kind 42:43 of send me it kind of sent to me about 42:44 about time like brought like just shut 42:46 up 42:47 I like how in this episode and I'll get 42:49 to this a little bit later to how even 42:52 doc even even though dr. Manhattan is so 42:54 Opie mm-hmm 42:55 the people that are closest to him like 42:57 just talk down him all the time you know 43:00 shut up and that's the interesting thing 43:02 about that's one of the things always 43:03 quite liked about Watchmen is none of 43:04 those superheroes like each other at all 43:06 even the ones who are in romantic 43:08 relations don't like each other I mean 43:10 there's something to be said about the 43:11 kind of antisocial personality that 43:13 makes you want to be a superhero to 43:14 begin with and of course they wouldn't 43:17 get along and I really like that and you 43:18 do see that very clearly in this show 43:20 because everybody all of the people who 43:22 are vigilantes or superheroes or 43:24 whatever they all have these sort of 43:25 borderline antagonistic relationships 43:27 with each other 43:28 insisting that even though dr. Manhattan 43:31 is easily the most powerful he has 43:35 social skills that and is ego because if 43:39 any other person had his powers things 43:42 would be a whole lot I think that speaks 43:44 to just the kind of personality that 43:46 people who have great who genuinely have 43:48 great personal ability and power don't 43:51 need egos they just do what they want to 43:53 do and that's I mean he's creating life 43:54 on Europa he doesn't need to prove 43:56 anything to anybody 43:57 let's go to that cuz that was a 43:58 curveball I didn't expect to learn so 44:00 much about that right yeah they really 44:02 got detailed in a way that I wasn't 44:03 expecting Yeah right 44:04 mm-hmm yeah we we thought that all this 44:07 was connected to vite vite built it and 44:10 these people but they're connected to 44:12 Manhattan mm-hmm I thought that was 44:15 fascinating I feel bad for all those 44:17 servants though yeah that was weird as 44:20 well is where that they're they're like 44:22 so I'm kind of curious now so he create 44:27 he forged the Adam and Eve essentially 44:30 from the lake doesn't mean that those 44:32 babies are just swimming around and 44:34 Aiden just picks them out whenever he 44:35 wants yes is that because even though 44:38 it's another thing where they answer 44:40 questions but then there's more 44:41 questions then you kind of want to 44:43 explore how does that work 44:45 yeah where's Kate why man yeah exactly 44:48 that's the one thing that they need to 44:49 answer next week cuz what but you know 44:52 okay that was the one part of this 44:54 episode so one thing I care so I mean 44:59 that would be that would be authentic to 45:01 the tone this show is set so far for 45:02 certain but speaking of tone the bit 45:05 with Adam and Eve and how you kind of go 45:07 back to baby Jon Osterman in in England 45:10 before he goes to the US and that whole 45:13 situation he has with that young couple 45:15 who was the Baron and his wife I think 45:17 who've taken them in temporarily and how 45:19 he then creates Adam and Eve in their 45:20 image that's the one moment for this 45:23 whole season that felt very untrue to 45:26 the Watchmen brand and the watchman 45:27 universe for me it didn't fit it felt 45:30 like it was cribbed from some others 45:31 science fiction story mmm it felt like 45:35 it was cribbed from some other science 45:36 fiction story somewhere which I don't 45:40 know for some reason something about 45:41 that struck a sour note for me and I 45:42 can't figure out why I just yet okay 45:44 we'll see if they talk about it any more 45:46 on the last episode and I'll see if 45:47 there's if it somehow manages to turn 45:49 all the way around for me but that hope 45:52 that whole part of the episode I was 45:53 like where's this from okay that was 45:57 cool how we learned how Angela survived 46:00 the white knight hmm callbacks yeah yeah 46:03 and I gotta go to the the black the 46:07 black moments from Regina King yes he 46:09 always just just brings it out mm-hmm 46:13 John's little pony like he's like don't 46:16 worry about everyone's fight um get the 46:18 about that pool time where the kids 46:20 are like yeah yeah she that she's not 46:27 she's never a damsel in distress she's 46:28 very much like would you just get it 46:30 just do what you need to do like knock 46:32 it off I don't have time for this it's 46:34 so black mm-hm 46:35 yeah I love that light - speaking of 46:37 that on that scene I mean you know what 46:39 maybe I'll say that for 46:40 little later but the Simard john is 46:45 talking to both Angela and well at the 46:47 same time was amazing and once she once 46:49 he she asked him to ask her grandfather 46:53 do you know who judge Crawford is and 46:56 then you know John respond he doesn't 46:58 know who John Crawford is okay what is 47:04 the water what am I in yes that was 47:07 a really good use of time paradox 47:08 storytelling because the whole basically 47:12 so for dr. Manhattan all the time exists 47:15 at the same minute right right so 47:17 there's no paradox at all for him 47:19 shaking her the egg yeah exactly 47:21 brilliant really well done mm-hmm 47:23 fantastic I mean it's also a very 47:26 interesting way to get out to get 47:27 yourself out of a storytelling problem 47:29 that they were causing themselves 47:30 because otherwise how would he know but 47:32 they did it well enough and you've got a 47:33 character who has that kind of 47:35 extrasensory 47:38 extra-extra chronological ability a sort 47:41 of extra chronological ability then yeah 47:44 you got to use it I guess yeah yeah you 47:45 got to show it off so it worked out 47:47 really well but in the hands of a less 47:50 capable storyteller that could have been 47:52 trouble sure and it's cool that of all 47:55 his powers that was the one that they 47:57 focus on the most was his ability to 47:58 just be passive in observed time yeah 48:01 which i think is good because from what 48:03 you just told me about the comic it's a 48:05 good thing they didn't make him too 48:07 crazy I think it it is a TV show at the 48:10 end of the day you can only do so much 48:12 so the fact that they chose one specific 48:15 power to focus on and really unwrap and 48:17 unfold and really show the the extent of 48:19 and the limits of was a really smart 48:21 choice yeah the last thing I want to 48:25 talk about was Regina Kings performance 48:28 once she realizes that the 7th cavalry 48:30 were outside I thought was really 48:32 fantastic it was a wonderful action 48:34 scene she was straight up like John wick 48:36 yes yes yeah and I know if you noticed 48:41 this but I also appreciated that just 48:43 because it's been revealed that 48:45 Manhattan is her husband his powers and 48:48 his presence never diminished her own 48:50 abilities yes I noticed that too like 48:53 she didn't 48:54 never I love that she's not a damsel in 48:55 distress she wasn't like oh saved me the 48:57 7th Calvary is here she was like you 48:59 stay here I'm gonna go tap looks in the 49:00 head yeah she eliminated as many enemies 49:04 as Manhattan did if not more so did you 49:07 think she could save him like once they 49:09 got to the end do you think you know 49:12 what does the song say don't save him 49:13 she don't want to be saved because he 49:15 didn't want to be saved so I don't think 49:17 she could have because he the whole time 49:19 like he's standing in front of it after 49:21 he blows up everybody everybody's head 49:22 and stands in front he stands right in 49:25 front of the Machine and I'm sitting 49:26 there like move move or destroy it yeah 49:29 what are you doing don't stand there but 49:31 he'll clearly yeah exactly but he wasn't 49:33 there for that he was there to be 49:35 destroyed so I don't think she could 49:36 have saved him yeah I mean I've pretty 49:38 much taking that manhattan's word is law 49:40 so I suspect that it was gonna come no 49:42 matter what but it was heartbreaking 49:43 especially it seeing her reaction to 49:45 that was yeah I mean it's interesting 49:47 because his the superpower that they 49:49 posited as his greatest it was also his 49:52 biggest weakness at the same time yeah 49:53 so it's this he's a very vulnerable 49:55 character even though he's very powerful 49:57 he knows everything but he's powerless 49:59 to change anything yeah so that was a 50:02 good illustration of that but also it's 50:04 very heartbreaking to watch that happen 50:05 because it's dr. Manhattan and she just 50:11 got her love back I mean I mean I mean 50:12 she loved Cairo but she also kind of 50:15 fell look at him first right but okay so 50:18 what did you think about that I first of 50:21 all I want to see how Janey reacts 50:22 that's number one number two when she 50:25 figures it out she wasn't in this 50:26 episode at all but number two I don't 50:28 know how I feel about the way they set 50:31 up that romance it was functional yes it 50:37 had its moments of sweetness but I mean 50:39 listen if I'm sitting in a bar and some 50:42 dude just sits down and mans planes to 50:44 me for 30 minutes straight we're not 50:47 having a second date that's not romantic 50:49 well I don't care who he is I think I 50:53 think you could argue that because 50:55 Angela and he said himself angela is 50:58 just a lost person and she's lonely and 51:01 I mean he had to guess if I guess what's 51:05 happening or why you're sitting here 51:07 can I sit down and he he brought her 51:09 beer he delivered on the on the promise 51:12 and I mean honestly if a woman in blue 51:16 face just came and sat down next to me 51:18 and just started telling me wild stuff 51:20 depending on what what was going on yeah 51:23 I would just have fun just having a 51:25 conversation and nasal wishes it was my 51:27 table it was a damsel wasn't like she 51:29 was scared it was yeah she was angry she 51:31 wishes she was tired and just wanted to 51:33 talk to somebody and okay so it was a 51:35 weird guy sure it's so it just kind of 51:37 happened true but I guess I felt like we 51:39 needed something in between the epic 51:41 man's planation date and in like morph 51:44 into some dead guys so we can bone right 51:46 exactly like that to me like there 51:49 needed to be something in between that 51:50 but what they did instead was show us 51:52 scenes from the future aka the present 51:55 which was fine but there really it was 51:58 if this was a rom-com that's the worst 52:00 relationship ever it's not so they get 52:02 away with it but it still I felt like it 52:04 wasn't as fleshed out as it could have 52:05 been 52:05 it was serviceable exactly what is 52:07 probably the weakest aspect of this okay 52:09 yeah I'm with you on that so yet to me 52:15 yeah him dying was like in-game like you 52:18 know Tony's gonna get it but it still 52:20 hurt yeah so I want to move on yeah 52:23 everything I'll say about this episode 52:24 specifically or no I don't know what we 52:29 only have one more episode left I'm 52:31 already in morning but that note yeah I 52:34 want to get into our predictions yes for 52:36 the final episode and I have a couple 52:38 but if you want to go first 52:39 do you think nope I don't have any 52:42 predictions I i've been calling this 52:44 show by accident all season i have no 52:46 idea where this is going now and i could 52:48 not even begin to imagine i just i do 52:50 feel like there's no way they can 52:51 actually destroy dr. Manhattan that 52:53 doesn't make sense because he was that's 52:55 how he became dr. Manhattan he was 52:57 destroyed and then put himself back 52:58 together metaphysically so there's got 53:01 to be a twist that we don't know about I 53:02 think but that's really the only idea I 53:05 have so on that note I want to talk 53:09 about this show has kind of given us a 53:12 guide for I think making predictions in 53:18 some ways 53:19 the show is good about being clean and 53:23 that every word said and seen is very 53:26 deliberate and seeds are planted for 53:30 future episodes and so what really stood 53:34 out to me was Manhattan's talk with 53:38 Angela about creating life and also 53:40 being able to give powers and so ok this 53:44 is where I'm going so he's going to give 53:46 his power to KY man who then does what 53:52 [Laughter] 53:54 so I want to go through a couple things 53:57 so number one when document hadn't said 54:01 I'm hungry 54:03 that was that was a flag to me cuz 54:05 Manhattan doesn't need food think about 54:10 that he doesn't exhaust himself he 54:12 doesn't sleep he doesn't need to eat he 54:15 doesn't need anything yeah who is this 54:17 in the kitchen making waffles and in the 54:20 bar he said that I suppose if I made 54:24 something and so and ingested it they 54:25 could take on my powers and interesting 54:30 ok and perhaps Angela smashing those 54:35 eggs was a red herring or kind of a 54:39 sleight of hand because he made an egg 54:41 himself in the bars possibly he ki could 54:44 have made eggs mm-hmm without her 54:46 without those eggs on the floor hmm it's 54:49 probably he could have left something 54:51 edible on the kitchen before he got he 54:54 got killed did she eat anything but he 54:56 said he wouldn't give her the powers 54:57 without her consent and there was never 55:00 a description or a discussion about 55:01 consent there not yet but again this 55:04 episode mm-hmm so my prediction is that 55:10 man hadn't left something for her on the 55:14 table and consent is pretty much like he 55:17 doesn't have to give it to her mm-hmm 55:18 but here it is and your consent is 55:21 literally to you just eating it yeah 55:22 that's true so it's not really hard to 55:24 know it's not hard to do I what you're 55:27 saying is both vaguely implausible but 55:30 also it would be so dope if it was true 55:31 because dr. Manhattan becomes a black 55:33 woman Oh God black leader guy you know I 55:36 don't think that's gonna be the art for 55:38 her that would be amazing 55:40 I don't know if we've got the setup for 55:42 all that but that would be amazing I 55:44 wouldn't even care if it was if it made 55:45 sense within the universe or not I would 55:47 just enjoy seeing that Episode six went 55:49 to a lot of places yeah yeah you know 55:52 the thing is what this show is 55:54 highlighted for me is that there's such 55:55 a dearth of good black womens 55:57 superheroes I mean we really don't have 56:00 any we have a lot of kind of side 56:02 characters and maybe could be what black 56:04 women superheroes but I mean we have 56:05 what misty night in the dorm of OJ so 56:09 sister night okay yeah you're right 56:13 storm but they keep doing storm so wrong 56:15 in the movies that it's hard to 56:16 appreciate her for what they're in 56:21 movies and TV just in general I mean in 56:22 the comic books it's a bit different but 56:24 even then you kind of have to search but 56:26 you got to read a lot of Captain America 56:27 and again through the misty later a lot 56:29 of what's-his-name Iron Fist or whoever 56:31 point being so yeah so I'm just I think 56:37 that's been the most fulfilling thing 56:39 about the show for me so far is that 56:40 it's about a black woman's superhero and 56:42 she's not a token she's very authentic 56:45 to herself as a character she's got a 56:47 really intriguing backstory that sets 56:49 her up as a superhero well and she's got 56:51 a love interest who also was a superhero 56:53 as it turns out and she's got an 56:56 interesting life and she's got friends 56:57 and she's just a complete superhero 56:59 she's not there to be like fierce and 57:01 sassy she's just this is her story and 57:05 it makes sense yeah anyway so if she 57:08 does turn out to be sister Manhattan I'm 57:11 here for it sister Manhattan Manhattan 57:15 had some Squidward couple of the year 57:16 man I want to I want to go into some 57:18 other parts that that kind of aid in 57:22 this okay remember when he said he was 57:24 on the pool and he's like you need to 57:26 see me on the pool this is important for 57:29 later how would he know about later yeah 57:33 he doesn't come back somehow whoa well 57:36 he knows everything if he doesn't he 57:38 doesn't necessarily have to come back he 57:40 just has to be existed in some sort of 57:41 way he might be reconstructing himself 57:44 for the next 50 years who knows but 57:47 although that did that did stand out to 57:49 me to just the idea standing on the pool 57:51 is important for later I thought to 57:53 myself why would that be important ooh 57:55 is his essence of himself in the pool if 57:58 she goes swimming does she come out a 57:59 sister Manhattan I don't think I don't 58:01 think so no I think him purposefully 58:03 making waffles in the kitchen it's like 58:05 why would you do that 58:06 and I think possibly him walking on 58:09 water to me is you're gonna have these 58:12 powers eventually either you take all my 58:16 essence and I'm kind of living in you or 58:18 you're gonna be the new Manhattan person 58:21 and maybe you need some ideas about how 58:24 to create life because that's how he 58:27 create create life while walking in the 58:29 pool maybe she'll show have that kind of 58:31 she'll do that maybe she'll make her 58:34 kids again or the kid like maybe the 58:36 kids so he happens to the kids unless in 58:38 the last episode of she has to really 58:40 recreate them or yeah because Manhattan 58:43 is also able to repair like damage like 58:47 like if you were totally broken up on 58:49 the verge of death you can undo it or 58:52 she might be able to recreate him out of 58:54 the out of the pool 58:55 that's very true yeah it's very he's 58:57 been quote unquote destroyed whatever 58:59 that actually means for a character like 59:01 him she might be able to pull him back 59:03 out of the pool or maybe she she's 59:05 Manhattan but she can reconstruct a cow 59:08 period hmm and just have him just imbued 59:11 him with speech and give back his 59:14 memories or something and just make him 59:16 a regular person and then she's then 59:18 she's just all hero at that point yeah I 59:21 don't know I love how we're just we're 59:22 both just a hundred percent in on this 59:24 sister Manhattan idea no I think it's 59:27 gonna happen okay absolutely okay and I 59:29 thought once again it's interesting that 59:31 talking about he was hungry and then a 59:32 flash of the egg in his hand it flashed 59:34 at that point to the egg in his hands 59:36 like him creating it then he also said 59:39 it's very interesting question to what 59:42 comes first the chicken or the egg 59:43 he says it's both so you have here we 59:47 think that the egg really or the chicken 59:49 could be John having his accident but 59:54 kind of just like how we learn in the 59:56 comic books that and the flash got hit 59:59 with the lightning through the 60:00 through the chemicals we learned later 60:02 on in comic lore that he was the 60:05 Lightning himself right so we see here 60:08 that John is deconstructing himself or 60:10 he got this accident right we also see 60:13 like he's possibly setting himself up to 60:17 be created again right so the whole idea 60:20 of time being one very dense point 60:22 rather than a circle or a line fair 60:24 enough 60:24 okay where everything is kind of 60:25 coinciding how long a single plane maybe 60:31 hmm I don't know I think whatever they 60:34 do it's going to be interesting but I 60:35 have questions 60:36 where is mr. K why where is Looking 60:38 Glass because they made a really 60:39 interesting point of flagging him up in 60:42 both the preview for this episode and 60:43 the preview for next episode they keep 60:45 reminding you that he exists so he's got 60:47 to have a big role in the final episode 60:48 what happened to dr. Manhattan what is 60:51 Janie going to say when she sees her 60:53 blue boo is back right because she's 60:55 right there mm-hmm is he gonna appeared 60:58 as as blue Manta I mean I'm assuming he 61:01 will yeah that's the thing are they 61:02 gonna just they've done such an 61:05 interesting thing by making this choice 61:08 just such bold choices in this show I 61:10 keep saying that but across the board 61:11 well Blake mentioned his his expanded 61:14 head John can you kind of lose that 61:18 maybe I don't know put your striking 61:21 Viper away this is a family show anyway 61:24 is it a family show not really no not at 61:28 all please don't watch us with your kids 61:29 somebody asked me if it was okay to 61:31 watch this with their kids because it 61:32 was a comic book movie and no no no you 61:35 know that beam with with Bugs Bunny new 61:37 new new please not don't do that to your 61:41 children that bugs me I do too 61:43 I had that save on the desktop just 61:44 right to just vote Biden do you'll see I 61:52 don't really but I'm excited to see what 61:55 happens next I'm sad there's only one 61:56 episode left yeah I you know that's been 61:59 a really I'm annoyed that it got snubbed 62:01 so hard at the Golden Globes is this an 62:02 awesome show and it gets gotten no love 62:04 awards why's the Emmys have stole the 62:07 nominations still haven't been announced 62:08 have they I'm mad I'll think so yeah so 62:10 there's still the chance there I guess 62:11 but Regina King deserved another 62:14 the writing the I mean the effects okay 62:17 but the writing definitely deserves some 62:19 love and also apparently this has got 62:21 really low ratings so far so nobody's 62:23 watching it again this is something I 62:25 kind of read skimmed but I hadn't 62:27 haven't done a deep dive into it but we 62:29 need another season of this we need 62:32 another season not sure not sure okay 62:34 I'll say this I can never ask a story to 62:39 have another sequel if I don't know how 62:41 it's gonna end at the same time if 62:44 Angela becomes a god if a black woman 62:47 becomes a god just for the last 10 62:48 minutes of a show I would be 62:49 disappointed if that happens we need to 62:52 see that be expanded in the next season 62:53 it doesn't have to be all about race 62:55 again although I would think would be 62:56 hard to take it away from there but I 62:58 know there's so many loose ends what the 63:00 heck is going on with Veidt because we 63:01 can't just leave him there 63:02 trapped on Europa trying to escape and 63:05 never able to do that although if he's 63:07 on Europa it does beg the question who 63:09 is supposed to see that save me message 63:12 that he put out there really true I 63:15 don't know there's a lot of questions I 63:17 don't know if they'll be able to answer 63:19 them in 50 minutes next week but I 63:20 really hope so they've answered a lot of 63:22 questions in short time so I can 63:24 definite out they have yeah and it's 63:26 probably the most it's probably the 63:28 easiest answer just presented in a 63:29 really cool way yeah so bring it on 63:31 sister Manhattan you better have afro a 63:33 big blue fro oh yeah she's like just 63:37 blows it out but we're closed we don't 63:39 need any of that like hyper 63:40 sexualization of the black body going on 63:42 blue body blue body right or you could 63:45 just wear a really big dress with your 63:46 ass out exactly 63:51 just shoot laser beam some thong yeah I 63:53 mean if there's any indication that's 63:57 how you get nominated for an award so if 64:00 you want that amine hey come on 64:03 bring it on wow that went in a direction 64:05 that I really didn't see coming this 64:09 concludes this episode of blurred up 64:11 again you can find us on Spotify and 64:13 I've a podcast we were on Facebook at 64:15 ble Rd u P we are on Twitter at ble rdu 64:19 and we're on instagram at vo e rd . up5 64:22 sampler calm again great site they're 64:24 talking about a lot of great nerdy 64:26 cultural goodness from 64:28 like Lin's again I'm Brendan Thank You 64:30 Mel for being here thank you for having 64:31 me as always let us know what you all 64:33 think about Watchmen and all that good 64:35 stuff are we wrong do you guys think 64:37 we're right you guys have your own 64:38 predictions let us know in the comments 64:39 and of course please again subscribe 64:41 give us a like give us a review and yeah 64:44 do your thing 64:45 pshaw