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M ANC hor period FM I am your host
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Brendan and I'm joined by Mel hi what's
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up how are you good good so today we're
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here to talk about bad boys for life or
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as it is in Korean bad boys poeta yeah
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bad boys forever I don't know why they
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made that change whole life polite well
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I mean they didn't you could just
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translate it into for life in Korean but
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they didn't do that they they gave it a
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weird konglish edit for now it's forever
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instead of for life because you couldn't
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have put it you couldn't put for life
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like not literally for life but
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translate the words yeah which would
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have made more sense but I guess not
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interestingly there's another Korean
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film out that is also called bad boys
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the same name what's it called in Korean
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can you not familiar it's like not wound
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oh yeah nothing the no suck though yeah
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yes to out right now yeah but we're the
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forever yes although to be fair when I
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actually went to go book bad boys
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forever on the on the megabox app it was
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in Korean in Korean so it was confusing
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cuz you're right there are those too so
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I was like which one am I trying to see
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it's what they did it yeah maybe well
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yeah but but my point is that even on
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the app there it's all in Korean boys
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the black one anyway bad boys for life
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is the conclusion to the epic bad boys
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trilogy is that what that is
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this is my introduction to this
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franchise this be a fun podcast Mellon
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says she has never seen any bad boys
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films yeah I mean I've seen clips from
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them obviously so I was I'm kind of
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familiar with the idea but I've never
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actually sat through a full bad boys
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film I've just seen snatches of them
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here and there okay so this was my first
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time sitting through a whole bad boys
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film and I've seen them all hmm yeah so
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this film has been I don't if you know
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of the history of this movie but it's
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been in development hell for years so
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the first film came out in 95 and that
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was kind of Will Smith's breakout kind
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of action movie and come to think of it
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probably my first black action film
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really I can't think of too many films
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prior to that that I saw personally that
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was magic my intro to that it was like
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that and independent state those were
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kind of my I mean there was Wesley
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Snipes before him but he was doing
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movies that I couldn't see yeah and he
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was doing he had an interesting balance
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he was doing a lot of action films but
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he was also doing things like what was
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it the Michael Crichton book that turned
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got turned into a movie with with Sean
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Connery where they actually changed the
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character to a black character that's a
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Rising Sun he was doing serious drama -
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sure Wesley was doing a bit of birth
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whereas Will Smith was just doing action
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films for like five straight years right
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right and of course I think the sequel
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came out in 2003 that was after graduate
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high school
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so yeah Michael Bay who was the director
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of the previous two films talked about a
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sequel ever since 2008 but said that
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cost would be a problem he and Will
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Smith were demanding so much money at
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the time because of course Will Smith
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was the highest-paid actor at the time
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and my baby was doing transformers and
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he had such a nice filmography so and
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Martin Lawrence was doing crack in the
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alley behind Michael Bay's house oh I'm
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sorry that was me and that was me and
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that was unnecessary but where has he
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been
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I'm sorry so
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in 2015 Sony announced not one but two
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bad boys films one coming out in 2017
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and one in 2019 and this was around the
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time when Sony was really doing too much
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that mediocre Ghostbusters reboot making
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all those spider-man universe ideas the
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sinister six and black and silver in
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2017 the date got pushed back to 2018
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then it was removed from their release
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schedule entirely and Martin Lawrence
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said the film wouldn't be happening and
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finally in 2018
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The Seagull picked up new directors
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writers and here we are
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did you watch the trailer last year I
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didn't I was real talk I was not
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interested in this at all until you sent
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a message in our chat saying so we're
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reviewing bad boys and I was like oh I
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guess I have to know what that means
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yeah when I saw the trailer last year I
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was as the cool kids say whelmed it felt
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like a movie made from another time
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brought into this decade
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Will Smith looked like he's aging
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gracefully but my man Martin I love you
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but you know at in the trailer there was
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a stark difference between the two and
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we'll probably get to that a little
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later
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[Laughter]
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[Music]
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maile concern about this is that we're
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getting this movie in January one of the
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slowest months of the year along with
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September for folks who may not know
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this is the time when Studios dump
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movies that they don't have much faith
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in so they don't have to go up against
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summer blockbusters and Oscar contenders
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bad boys one released June 3rd in 95 bad
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boys 2 released in July
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I of 2003 right so right here
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haha so it seemed that Sony had so
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little faith in this movie they wouldn't
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even put it up against birds of prey or
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Sonic the Hedgehog in February oh my
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gosh that's when you put it that way
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that's all could even release a black
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pop cultural icon all in black history
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month oh wow
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oh wow interesting okay so is this good
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or bad let's let's get into it
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huh for me you haven't seen the other
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ones but for fans of the bad boys
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franchise this is a bad boys movie it's
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kind of like saying is the next Fast &
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Furious movie bad or bad or good it's
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like if you've been on board with these
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movies then you're gonna you're gonna be
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entertained to some degree they don't
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try to reinvent the wheel it doesn't
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feel like really a cash grab either to
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me Michael re and Marcus are the same as
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they ever were Mike is the Hot Shot
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cowboy and Martin is constantly freaking
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out about it
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there's a constant banter and rivalry
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back and forth between them to be honest
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from the opening scene maybe because
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last year may have been a little rough
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for me uh uh but it just felt
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comfortable to see them on screen again
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just having fun that was definitely the
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best part of the film just kind of
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seeing the two of them interact I mean
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there's genuine love and affection put
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into this movie I don't know if I always
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translates but you know if there's
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genuinely love and affection put into
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this movie and you can see that yeah
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they do feel like real partners brothers
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friends and there were attempts to give
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these characters specifically Mike and
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arc a little more depth than previous
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films that actually surprised me people
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are generally looking to Will Smith for
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dramatic acting and he gives it but
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Martin Lawrence caught me by surprise a
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couple of times
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this is the most dramatic bad boys to
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date the two leads have conflicts within
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themselves as well as between each other
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and if you've been following these
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characters for 25 years you you feel for
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them did you feel any kind of emotional
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resonance in some of the scenes just
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being be new to it yes and no like there
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was a lot of places where I could
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obviously tell that it was sort of a
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callback I think if I had seen the other
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movies I probably would have enjoyed
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this a lot more because you can tell
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that they were playing off of a really
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long live lived franchise and there were
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a lot of things that are obviously
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callbacks and I didn't necessarily know
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what they were a callback to but I could
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tell that they were yeah and a lot of it
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was me there was a lot a lot of the film
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really relied on the long relationship
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between characters and not being a part
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of that relationship myself it didn't
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have the same resin inside but I could
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see that they were trying okay how do
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you feel about the humor between them oh
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I mean it wasn't really for me it's not
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really either of them at their best it
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was kind of black dad jokes like uncle
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jokes at the cookout for a couple hours
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especially like you said Will Smith is
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aging gracefully he's he still he looks
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like a very well preserved person of his
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age or younger than his age whereas
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Martin Lawrence
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he doesn't have Will Smith money and you
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can tell so there is kind of this uncle
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dynamic especially when Martin speaks
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where he's kind of given these sort of
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dad jokes you know like he just looks
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like he wears sandals to cookouts at
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this point so his jokes come across that
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way too I actually looked up Martin
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Lawrence worth he's worth over a hundred
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million dollars so he has money sure I
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guess he just has different lifestyle
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that's cool it's just that he's died I
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don't know what's going on there it's
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interesting real Smith is very much Will
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Smith and Martin Lawrence is there's
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something about his brand that is not
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preserved as well as Will Smith if felt
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this movie felt kind of like a lethal
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weapon I'm too old for this
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kind of thing yeah in a lot of ways yeah
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it was like - Danny Glover's been away
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but you know I watched The Breakfast
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Club in
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you with Will Smith and Martin Lawrence
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just before coming here and Will Smith
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said something really interesting cuz he
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was saying you know Will Smith has made
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me a lot of money but he's not really me
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so he's very I think he's more aware of
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the fact that who he is he's projecting
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as a brand yeah and that's not really
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himself it's not his authentic self
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whereas I don't know if Martin law and I
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think that's part of what's kept himself
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carefully preserved he's very much
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playing a role we don't know what the
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real Will Smith is like or even really
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what he looks like
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whereas I think Martin Lawrence is kind
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of even though he's not in the public
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eye as much I don't know if he has that
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same separation necessarily he's when he
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is in the press it's often for things
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that are much more mm sensitive and much
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more like you know that whole thing
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where he he drop out of some movie
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because he was having a nervous
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breakdown things like that he's a lot
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more transparent I think in that way so
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who knows this kind of a meta moment in
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regards to Will Smith's kind of facade
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because in this movie they explore them
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getting older they explored Marcus
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wanting to retire he's a grandfather now
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and Will Smith is kind of like you know
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he's still in this very much like nah
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bro family
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love I'm you know I'm just I'm
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just here just for the action and um
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that he's you know dyeing his hair
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dyeing his beard and maybe it's a meta
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moment for Will Smith to to kind of come
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out yeah maybe because he has been kind
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of gradually kind of growing into just
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being an elder yeah you know Smith the
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YouTube star now it's not really doing
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action movies anymore
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but I mean well aside from this faint
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Jim and I man yeah but you know I think
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with this and Gemini man how much of
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that action is really him I want talk
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about the supporting cast a few the
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supporting cast came back from the
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previous films Teresa Randall please
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Teresa Marcus's wife of course there's
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Seifer himself Joe Pantoliano
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yep Bacchus yeah I guess the captain and
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he's always fun mm-hmm
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there's a scene where he he almost
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becomes a Morpheus figure to Will Smith
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which is ironic given that Will Smith
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passed up the role right that's a yield
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for wha what wess right
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there are some new characters in the
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form of a younger tech oriented squad
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called ammo
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so there's Alexander Ludwig Vanessa
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Hudgens yep from high school musical
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right and I think she was in that uh
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that one movie with Selena Gomez I
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forgot that movie's name anyway
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probably wouldn't know what it was Paulo
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Nunez or who like to call Hispanic
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Trinity in this movie and Charles Milton
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are members and there's a level of
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respect and robbery between them and
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Michael Ari and Marcus there's a little
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love interest between Mike and Paula
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Nunez was she in other movies not not in
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there's no so she's so okay because I'm
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really right she's a brand-new character
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because the way that they talked about
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her in the in this film I thought that
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she was in all of the other movies like
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she was a recurring character I think
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they talked about her so that it made it
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seem like they had history okay yeah
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interesting because I just assumed that
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I didn't know who she was because I
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hadn't seen the other movies but she's
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brand new to everybody that's
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interesting was interesting and in my
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opinion unfortunate is that from in bad
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boys to the love interest the love
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interest was Gabrielle Union and Will
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Smith she was Marcus's sister oh that's
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right and they mentioned it kind of off
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the cuff in this movie that he broke up
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with her and they never really addressed
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that and you know obviously as you know
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we know there are often times glaring
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lack of black women in these movies and
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right so why not include her hmm what
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does Gabrielle Union doing like you
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could easily use her if you wanted to um
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actually I forgot she was in she and
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Jessica Alba had a bad boys TV show did
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they yes
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Wow I think is on Fox I'm I'm not sure
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the studio but they definitely had a
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show I'm still going on or canceled but
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they definitely had his show was Jessica
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in the movies you know she would've been
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like - no no no no no okay no it came
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out within the last several years and
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they were it was just kind of a side
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Side Story you know interesting Wow I
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never would have guessed okay yeah it
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sucks that they couldn't get her back
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for that yeah I kind of I have a theory
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as to why that is for this particular
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movie they were really trying to pull
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out to pull out the whole like Latino
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connection which is fine but it doesn't
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make sense to have Miami where are the
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only black people are men
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that's very true yeah we're just walking
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around in the club yeah that's really it
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but yeah there's an almost forced
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tension between Charles Milton and Will
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Smith that I thought really dated the
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film to the 90s and 2000's in regards to
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the writing and like like mama jokes and
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then the whole like black guy versus
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Asian guy it was sort of weirdly played
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out it was outtake from rush hour it was
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strange yeah mm-hmm
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yeah I really felt out of place in
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today's world what's going to the
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villains mm-hmm for me the villain be
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doing spoilers before we do the villains
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hold on are we getting into that we
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can't later okay fine because I there's
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a huge spoiler concerning the villains
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that I want to talk about yeah that is
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true okay the villains to me are the
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best or at least the most memorable and
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this franchise really yeah it's not
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seeing much to be honest I Wow I haven't
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missed much okay but I wish I did do
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more with them especially the the lead
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Jacob Scooby oh there's a particularly
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brutal scene near the beginning where he
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uses a South East Asian weapon called
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the Khurram 'but i've trained with it
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and krama guides it's a really cool it's
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kind of like holding holding a raptor
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claw interesting and your hand and the
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claws kind of facing out away from your
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fist towards your opponent okay and so
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you can use it to cut and slice and flip
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it around and it's really amazing weapon
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okay and you only use it once if you've
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seen if you seen the raid redemption if
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you have you seen those action films the
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raid films I have not you there they're
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some of the best of the previous decade
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but very redemption if you've seen that
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movie folks out there it's the weapon
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used at the in there in five
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but but this guy is so badass with it in
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that scene but they only use it in that
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one scene and in beginning I was like
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wow this is what this kind of move is
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gonna be about this kind of is a level
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up from the previous bad boys films okay
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it was kind of like when beat the weapon
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one two and three were just kind of
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about the bad guys were kind of like
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vanilla white dudes with guns and then
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when Jet Li showed up it was like a
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brand new kind of threat right okay and
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so I was looking forward to that mm-hmm
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but they never really brought that back
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and I was just disappointed with that
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from an action standpoint okay I mean
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he's obviously in more scenes in this in
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this film doing things but he's got a
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more important role in some ways yeah
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but the level of brutality and
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choreography from that scene ever came
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back and I was disappointed with that
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okay and his mother in the movie is
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played by kate del Castillo and she's
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also brutal but she only gets that one
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scene to kind of demonstrate that she's
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a threat but then it's just kind of back
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to the mike and Marcus show yeah I just
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evil Mexicans in Miami this is really
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what we're doing I was not sold on the
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villains just because it didn't it I
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there's this thing lately where I feel
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like it's kind of irresponsible
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filmmaking in some ways where there's a
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lot of villain ization of Mexican people
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in films or tokenization of Mexican or
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just kind of lets include Mexicans
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because there's lots of Latinos in
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America now and it sells movies kind of
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like this whole let's include a scene
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from China because now China buys big
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blockbuster movies it's sort of lame to
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me okay right yeah so like it was the
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same thing in terminator I don't know if
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you saw the latest Rambo film but I did
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and it's basically Rambo kills everybody
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in Mexico not everybody but you know I
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mean like it is just yeah just let's
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murder Mexicans for two hours because
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one of them is mean to me
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and this is sort of the same thing you
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know like really we're in Miami there
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are so many and just the idea of kind of
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ethnically coding your villains to begin
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with is problematic and then just let's
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have just evil Mexicans for no reason
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also interestingly enough the guy who
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plays the male villain he's
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okay I knew I'd seen him before he's
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been in like some TV shows he did well I
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mean no it's just it's interesting that
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and cos he and what made me look up to
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see what nationality he actually is is
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because he's clearly just playing like a
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TV thug Mexican yeah
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yeah I think they really could have made
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those carriages more interesting mm-hmm
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but I think because they were trying to
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fit in so many callbacks with previous
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films and is trying to kind of
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reestablish our bond with Mike and
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Marcus and give them more to do mm-hmm
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the movie became a victim of its own
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ambition I think just trying to over
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stuff so much but never really getting
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deep into anything kinda like that you
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know that Simpsons episode we're talked
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about why mr. burns hasn't died yet and
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it's like you have this Three Stooges
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syndrome where all these diseases are
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trying to get through right no one's
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getting through right mm-hmm it's like
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oh let's have a callback that cameo all
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this came out here this came out here
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let's have this extended scene with this
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person for no reason
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let's put in dj khaled for some reason
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yeah the funniest thing about dj khaled
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being in this movie is that his actual
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government name is Khaled Khaled did you
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did you peep that no yeah so they have
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his DJ cow with his stage name and then
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after they put his real name in
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parenthesis and his real name is just
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Khaled Khaled interesting yeah anyway
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that kind of tickled me yeah so we're
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kind of getting just some more negatives
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here and you're probably wondering who's
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behind the camera has Michael Bain
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returned to direct
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he's probably was probably too busy
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doing six underground I suppose so we
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have Belgian directors bit la sala and a
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deal el RB thank you thank you the
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cultured one they have written in
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directed films and TV to mixed results
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from what I've researched there's movie
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called black that got nominated for best
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Belgian film of its year but snowfall
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for FX was generally viewed as average
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mm-hmm and they are currently slated to
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direct the new Beverly Hills Cop movie
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are you seeing a pattern yes to put it
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mildly yes
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and this movie honestly my biggest beef
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for this movie is that it felt like a
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really long 90s music video without a
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good song and you wouldn't you wouldn't
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know about this but bad boys 2 was
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really obnoxious about the Nelly tell
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feather song oh really
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it was almost every 10 minutes they play
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that song my gosh like Will Smith you
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know in this movie they have some
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slow-motion shots of Will Smith shooting
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people putting on jackets putting on
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clothes in that movie every time jack it
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would would be maybe two or three scenes
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with Will Smith just walking out with a
22:48
slo-mo putting his jacket on to Nelly
22:50
and it really got obnoxious really so
22:53
the fact that there wasn't a kind of
22:55
soundtrack of that nature in his film
22:58
was kind of a relief to me mmm okay fair
23:01
enough it was not obnoxious I mean we
23:02
had to endure our two leads trying to
23:05
sing the bad boy song a few times Betsy
23:07
on that yeah but yeah I just felt like a
23:09
really really really long music video
23:11
and I mean I get it supposed to be a
23:13
mindless action film and I like the
23:14
occasional mindless action film but this
23:16
was just like glassy for no reason and
23:20
and the writers it stands out here the
23:23
writers were Peter Craig who wrote the
23:25
Mockingjay Hunger Games film so the
23:27
worst of the series but he also wrote
23:31
the town okay oh yeah okay joe carnahan
23:34
wrote the town yeah interesting okay
23:37
play joe carnahan wrote smokin aces
23:40
another mindless kind of the a-team I
23:43
know this man death wish yeah what y'all
23:45
think the new Death Wish yes okay Wow
23:48
he's been around a few okay and Chris
23:51
Brimmer who is largely a brand-new
23:53
writer
23:53
hold on it took three people to write
23:55
this screenplay yeah that's how
24:01
Hollywood works you that's ridiculous it
24:05
took three people to write this
24:07
screenplay remember when we we reviewed
24:09
Captain Marvel and it was like five
24:10
people on that on that team just yeah
24:13
and I said the same thing then it took
24:15
five people to write that it took three
24:16
people to write this Tyler Perry's out
24:18
here writing everything by himself and
24:20
it's equally bad you don't need three
24:21
people to write this screenplay
24:24
you just need one with a ridiculous work
24:26
ethic true yeah like this this cocktail
24:30
of me awkward ease in writing and to me
24:32
I think that there are pockets where I
24:34
chuckled and smiled
24:36
I guess maybe more than you because of
24:38
the previous films oh I remember that
24:41
person the person that actually brought
24:43
that person back and oh that's cool and
24:44
there were a couple jokes that were fine
24:46
but a lot of this was vanilla
24:49
paint-by-numbers action movie like some
24:51
movies that they've previously written
24:53
I'm some jokes to be said are outdated
24:55
or simply don't land character moments
24:57
are kind of touched on but not really
24:59
explored and there's some editing
25:01
problems
25:01
I don't you remember this scene there
25:03
was one scene in particular Mike and
25:06
Marcus were at a cemetery
25:07
mm-hmm and the scene was clearly longer
25:10
than what was shown but it was cut
25:12
abruptly dimmer that scene the whole
25:14
movie felt like that to me like it's
25:16
just that whole music video thing where
25:17
there's a lot of jump cuts and a lot of
25:19
really like strange
25:21
establishing shots that don't really
25:23
establish anything again I don't expect
25:25
a whole lot but it just was it didn't
25:27
really visually hang together like a
25:28
movie for me sure it felt like if I
25:30
watch this in ten minute increments I
25:32
would have really loved it but you know
25:34
when you're sitting there for hours it
25:35
was not even the AGGA scenes aren't
25:38
memorable or believable even within this
25:41
crazy universe yeah that was okay so are
25:44
the other two movies like this in
25:45
regards to action we're just where they
25:47
do a lot of the action kind of for the
25:48
joke where it doesn't really make a lot
25:50
of sense bad boys to was taking a little
25:53
more serious I'm sorry bad boys one was
25:55
taking a little bit more seriously bad
25:59
boys two was Maya peeing worse than the
26:02
first one and they had a much bigger
26:04
budget of explosions in whatever but as
26:07
far as a narrative I thought it was
26:09
overall worse but it still was an action
26:13
comedy for sure right I believe the
26:15
weapon is an action calm there's still
26:16
some drama there sure but I guess what I
26:18
mean is that you know there's no real
26:20
rhyme or I love ridiculous action but
26:23
only if it's set in a fantasy universe
26:24
where it doesn't have to make sense yeah
26:26
but in this where it's sort of set in a
26:28
quasi reality right where folks are just
26:30
getting shot and all of a sudden I'm
26:32
better I'm running down done criminals
26:34
again or sliced yeah
26:35
sliced up or like you know the but then
26:37
somebody else gets poked once people
26:39
falling off but I mean all kinds of
26:40
things are happening and there's not
26:42
that she's 50 plus years old and in the
26:45
end the movie recognizes this and you're
26:47
fighting folks 25 you know in their
26:50
prime exams because of the speed they
26:53
move at and that's the thing it's you
26:55
know we talked about the villain and his
26:56
amazing fighting ability in the first
26:58
scene and that kind of just gets thrown
27:00
out for the sake of story yeah exactly
27:06
so like in that first scene he's you
27:08
know I fight God and then later on he's
27:12
that same thing and he's fighting folks
27:14
who don't have that same established
27:15
skill set but they're but he's not
27:17
winning he's confusing yes pretty yeah
27:21
yeah I got to talk about Mike though
27:24
mm-hmm
27:25
I don't know how you felt about Will
27:27
Smith's character but in the old films
27:29
he was supposed to be seen as a kind of
27:31
a likeable handsome charming guy to
27:32
Martin Lawrence kind of more uptight
27:34
mm-hmm
27:35
character but this movie he's largely an
27:37
asshole like I legitimately I started to
27:39
dislike his character after a while I
27:41
haven't seen the other two movies but
27:43
that wouldn't make sense really cuz what
27:45
happens to the playboy what happens to
27:46
the old man in the club you know that's
27:48
what they become so that would make
27:49
sense so he's a narc for him mm-hmm like
27:52
he was reckless but effective in other
27:54
films but and this would be he should
27:57
have has a death wish like charging into
28:01
drug deals full of henchmen by himself
28:04
like oh I can handle this he came across
28:06
as real arrogant and real unaccepting of
28:09
his limitations and unfortunately the
28:11
movie in for the most part doesn't
28:14
really do anything to push back on that
28:16
right he kind of gets away with being
28:18
super Negro and it doesn't really make a
28:20
lot of sense in most cases but it just
28:22
is used to float to further the plot
28:23
anyway but even in in his prime I don't
28:26
remember it a single scene from the old
28:27
films where he was doing this kind of
28:30
craziness mm-hmm it was really like mid
28:33
crisis I just want to go out with a bang
28:34
kind of mindset the seat they've seen a
28:38
trailer where he jumps onto a helicopter
28:40
ladder and whole scene was ridiculous
28:44
and it goes further like imagine you're
28:47
jumping onto a helicopter ladder
28:49
to catch a bad guy and bad guys in the
28:51
helicopter with big and small guns and
28:54
other people there and he's almost shot
28:56
299 times before you jumped on the
28:58
helicopter and now you're just a sitting
29:00
duck hanging there it's like like why
29:01
would you do that just have a death wish
29:03
yeah character just poor character
29:05
writing and just just bat cracks poor
29:07
understanding of action I guess because
29:10
a lot of the action did the opposite of
29:12
what it was supposed to do I wasn't like
29:13
wow what's he gonna do next this is kind
29:15
of cool I was like why would he do that
29:16
this is ridiculous who cares why yeah
29:19
completely agree yeah and there were a
29:23
lot of helicopters in this film but they
29:24
kind of lampshade but like every time
29:26
anything happens somebody pulled up in a
29:28
helicopter
29:29
yeah it just really just folks just got
29:31
helicopters like that in Miami I should
29:33
move there and we can't track these
29:34
things exactly like ammo has all this
29:37
high-tech stuff to track exactly yeah
29:39
until they can't but nobody ever looks
29:41
up right right yes I mean let's just
29:44
close it out cuz we're running out of
29:46
time right here this this movie to me is
29:47
like having a slice of white bread in
29:50
the pantry that is probably passes
29:52
expiration date like you don't have much
29:54
else to eat how much so you give it a
29:56
chance with with some caution and it's
29:59
surprisingly not molded but it's not
30:03
something that you cheer about either
30:05
like to me this movie as a fan of the
30:07
franchise was I got walk into this
30:10
having low expectations but overall I
30:14
think if you're a fan of the franchise
30:16
like I don't all-out regret going to see
30:21
this movie again if if you have friends
30:24
and family who grew up watching these
30:26
movies I actually went with seven other
30:28
black folks or in our or people of color
30:31
who are fans of the franchise and you
30:35
know I heard a couple folks laugh and I
30:36
was chuckling a little bit we were kind
30:37
of you know we have to cook complaints
30:39
collectively but we also were kind of
30:41
you know we were laughing too with them
30:42
and smiling so I think you have fun with
30:45
it overall but not only are there no
30:48
scenes that really warrant a big-screen
30:51
experience I'll never watch this movie
30:54
again right mm-hmm
30:55
yeah so just just okay go ahead oh sorry
30:59
so for me I walked in grumpy as hell
31:01
that I was spending my evening watching
31:02
this dumb jock
31:03
and I walked out charmed by the presence
31:06
of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence and
31:07
you know it's cause there's nostalgia in
31:08
seeing them there they're cute together
31:10
there it's fun to watch them and you
31:12
know there's that they really do their
31:13
best to make it a fun happy movie or in
31:15
a fun watchable entertaining movie but I
31:18
walked out grumpy as hell that I had
31:20
watched that dumb jock so I mean it
31:23
was what it was it's kind of what it
31:25
says on the tin if you like it you like
31:26
it but it just wasn't my thing so Rick
31:29
this year we're gonna start to have a
31:32
new rating system yes and so we're gonna
31:34
try to shape it into the context of the
31:37
film so we're gonna rate this movie on a
31:40
scale of 5 haha I would give bad boys a
31:48
3 out of 5 ha ha I would probably give
31:52
it to like if it comes on TV and I'm
31:54
doing something else I'd let it play but
31:56
I wouldn't go looking for this yeah the
31:59
irony is Michael Bay did a Netflix movie
32:02
when this movie really should input on
32:04
Netflix that's the other thing I thought
32:05
like the whole time I was like this is
32:06
because I did watch six underground and
32:08
it was also not good but I mean at the
32:12
end of the day they're both Netflix
32:14
quality movies it's just that there were
32:15
much bigger stuff well I don't know cuz
32:18
Ron Reynolds was in six underground and
32:19
he's a bankable star I guess thanks to
32:21
Deadpool okay so yeah that gets to haha
32:30
as for me so just we could before you go
32:33
in spoilers the budget for this film was
32:35
90 million dollars the budget for the
32:38
first film was 19 million dollars
32:41
oh but the budget for bad boys too was
32:46
130 million dollars it's been all up and
32:50
down right yeah I wonder how that was is
32:52
this movie making back its money well it
32:54
it releases this week the box-office
32:57
projections are putting it at about 30
32:59
million domestically so we'll see what
33:01
happens week it could be past that it
33:02
could be below that black folks can turn
33:04
out but most can not so right I'm very
33:07
curious how this how this plays out I
33:08
mean I think it'll have a broader appeal
33:10
than black folks they really work hard
33:12
to make this appealing - I definitely -
33:15
I guess I don't know Latino people
33:17
which it seems kind of patronizing to
33:19
say that but it's kind of Catrin izing
33:20
the way they do it to be honest so yeah
33:22
like they're really trying to say oh
33:24
look look we have brown people do brown
33:27
people Spanish they're speaking Spanish
33:29
like man okay it was a challenge mm-hmm
33:34
because my Spanish is very elementary as
33:36
is my Korean so I had to kind of mesh my
33:39
lychee in Spanish from the screen would
33:40
like the create subtitles to kind of get
33:43
out with Roberto yeah luckily I had I
33:45
had a French shout out to a Kirsten who
33:48
helped me translate along the way but a
33:51
bit of it I got myself anyway before we
33:54
get out of here let's get to the spoiler
33:55
yes there's really only one so if you
34:01
haven't seen this movie and you want to
34:03
not be surprised turn off now one two
34:07
three black second wheel Smith
34:10
that's hilarious that was really
34:12
interesting to me you know what at this
34:17
point they need to just merge bad boys
34:21
Fast & Furious in Suicide Squad because
34:23
essentially this is all about these
34:24
reformed crazy criminals doing
34:27
outlandish I mean at this point
34:30
like have a cool Hispanic character with
34:33
a Karambit cutting folks up in these
34:35
films I'm I'm totally for it if they're
34:36
gonna reboot the franchise and have it
34:38
sent her all I'm history
34:40
on one hand it sucks and it's
34:42
patronizing to Hispanic people but if
34:45
they actually do a new trilogy or just a
34:47
new you know a reboot with Hispanic lead
34:49
of his character that could be cool or
34:51
they could just I don't know write a
34:54
brand new thing with the Hispanic
34:55
leaders no you're totally right I'm
34:59
sorry I know you're totally right I'm
35:01
just saying like if they can't start
35:03
fresh now right mm-hmm
35:04
why not right even though this guy like
35:07
killed a lot of people in really
35:09
horrible ways but sometimes for no
35:11
reason at all just to be fair those
35:13
opposed anyway I can't I can't kill
35:15
innocence oh it's my friend on the
35:16
ladder in my way let me just shoot him
35:18
he's innocent though yeah I know but
35:21
still you don't just murder your friends
35:22
and then just keep running your hotel it
35:24
was a consistent so yeah three three
35:28
three ha ha and
35:30
yeah I mean it's I guess we're doing out
35:32
of it so I stand firm all right yeah I
35:35
mean like Will Smith Will Smith and
35:38
Martin Lawrence are very charming
35:39
they're fun to watch even though their
35:40
dads I think that I think me seen the
35:42
other films maybe put that X on my think
35:44
probably three slabs now I will say this
35:47
watching this film is not going to make
35:48
me go back and watch the first two I've
35:52
watched the first one a long time it's
35:54
you know it's 95 it's dated so I think
35:55
you know there's weird mmm techniques
35:59
that aren't great anymore but for a
36:00
first time it was a fun movie anyway
36:04
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