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one Saturday morning alright guys well
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this move or this TV channel since
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netflix TV show called when they see us
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it is a story about the i believe
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they're the harlem five W's i said you
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wanted more classes attention part 5 the
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story of 5 africa scheming for
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african-american use in one Hispanic
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youth who were falsely arrested and
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accused of raping a woman yeah they were
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accused of raping a white woman and jail
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for between 6 and 14 years it's an
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amazing loop so let's go ahead and talk
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about it we'll do a really brief
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non-spoiler review and then we'll give
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our spoiler review on this movie so TV
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show go ahead shut um I guess just for
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purposes I definitely think everybody
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should watch this this this series the
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miniseries it's definitely important
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especially for the african-american and
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the minorities just to kind of know
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where you came from and things that
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could possibly happen
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still to this day it wasn't just that
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long ago that this happened I was I was
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1992 or 7 1989 it's 89 so I was in 331
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this happened so I mean it's not that
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far along I'm not like it was in the 60s
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or something like that this is my
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lifespan right here so yeah definitely
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it's very powerful the actors do a
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wonderful job to convey their situation
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on both sides even the white actors they
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they definitely make sure that you
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believe that they hate they hate white
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people on this movie
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it's very emotional it's hard to watch
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to say hey take your time with it get
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your emotions in check because there's a
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lot of port and information that I think
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everyone needs to know especially about
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the prison system all together how
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everything works with inmates will they
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release our society from you know high
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end to the low end everything just how
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we make up America it gives a shot a
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very big light on a lot of the issues
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that we have in our country but I want
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everybody to make sure they watch it cuz
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it's very compelling it's important but
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yeah I think I got like a gift for nice
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boys just just go watch it I will say I
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saw a lot of posts though this movie
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this TV show came out the week before
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and so I saw a lot of people who had
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already expressed some feelings on it
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one of the things they said about it was
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that this movie is a Keep Calm movie
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this show is a horror movie for black
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people they're 100% right
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it is 100% right particularly the first
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couple episodes now that is exactly how
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it feels like it feels like a horror
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movie except the difference is that when
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you're watching a horror movie no matter
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how much you become invested in that
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movie at the end of it you're able to
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release those most emotions because
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normally there's gonna be some type of
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implicating vindication and also you
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realize it's not real so you move on
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with your life but when you watch this
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you just are left in a state watching
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the first two episodes I remember
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particularly at the end of the second
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episode I just sat there right I didn't
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do anything but probably like a
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half-hour because I was so I was feeling
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man I just like that is horrible that is
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horrible and that that could have been
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me and that could have been that could
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have been your kids you know there's so
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many I mean it's it's terrible man and
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um first of all I will say that I felt
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it's very well made I'll talk about that
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a little bit more as we get into the
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non-spoiler review but um I think it is
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something that everyone should watch not
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just black people know I think people
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all people should should watch it
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because if you're but if you're not a
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black person and you're not paying
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attention to this type of stuff you
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leave yourself oblivious to the things
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that are happening I was watching a
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gentleman that just commented on
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Warren's page a little while ago and I
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could tell by the comments that he was
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leaving on Warren's page that he's
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oblivious to some of the things that are
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happening that people that look like him
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are doing the people that look like us
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you know so you need to watch things
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right they
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so you can know oh yeah yeah yeah these
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things happen
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you know and you need to pay attention
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need to be aware of it and we're aware
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of it and help us to put into it so
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let's go ahead and get into our spoiler
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review here now so you've had the
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opportunity to listen to us so please
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stop and watch the TV show on your own
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if you haven't got that all right
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spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler
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spoiler all right Chuck Taylor what are
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your feelings about the spoiler review
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on when they see us real quick before
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you darl fin to the the topic what do
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you think about the production of the
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show cuz normally most the time we don't
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talk about the topic we talk about the
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production truck so what did you think
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about that I mean I thought it was very
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well made I think I thought after I
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actually finished it I told you it was
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like probably one of the best
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mini-series your best TV show series
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that I've ever watched like a
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documentary of uh you know a true event
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just made it was very compelling all the
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actors were I mean they were so in tune
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to how these characters probably felt at
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the time of this situation from you know
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the children to the parents to the
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siblings to the community to the
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antagonist to the cops that were you
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know putting people falsely accusing
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them but all in all I thought that you
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know it was so it was very it was so
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compelling was like it draws you in so
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well and as you build you think it's
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just a movie but then you realize this
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really happened so just that just takes
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until no love like wow this really
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happened this wasn't just like somebody
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just you know writing a story writing a
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book and then when they bring into life
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in this situation that could have
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happened this actually really happened
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so I thought that they did a probably
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one of the best I've seen all right so
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you can go ahead and get into the topic
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sir um yeah that's the first episode man
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it had me going all types of emotions no
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I was already like he said you've heard
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posts about it being a horror movie for
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black people and even like see no Pete
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this you know we have a Latino brother
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there that had the same situation up in
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the hill so it definitely was you know
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it was gripping I remember when we first
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started washing washing with a group
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people just at the house torn I think
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was like noon and one of our brother
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long can put it on and we were just
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watching it in my I don't know I just I
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mean it had so many different feelings
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that were happening to me at that first
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episode you know after that first
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episode I already finished I think I
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worth like watch like the first half of
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it and I just had to like step away I
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wanna go check out my kids make sure
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everything was okay because yeah just
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this is scary this is very clearly like
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this finger like somebody just snatching
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your kids up and taking the whole life
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away from them and we can't you can't
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even fight seeing the decisions that a
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lot of them were making just made you
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angry I know you can't sit there and say
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judge because you weren't in that
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position but you know seeing some
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decisions that some of the parents made
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maybe not really checking in with their
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kid as much or even when they did know
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what was going on just you know being so
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scared they're just like hey just tell
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them whatever I mean when the father
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said that and as I just kind of broke me
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down like wow he's just no but lie on
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these kids and in life for it and really
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no steal his cash for his own son and
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you know it was it was really hard to
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watch that first episode yeah it took me
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like about two days lose that real quick
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with that dad it's like you don't feel
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one way about him because on one side
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you like how could you do that to your
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son but on the other side to some extent
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that you understand like he's thrown
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he's so terrified of the cops and he
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feels like they're gonna destroy him and
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either possibly kill both of them it's
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just you know that part is really I
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thought it was really good I'm sorry go
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ahead
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yeah
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I guess in June we are cute a few days
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to go back to a new review I gotta
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finish this I'm going to finish it when
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they get to the trial and they get to
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that trial and you see all the evidence
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that all the non evidences they have and
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you feel like you start they do a good
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job with the show to kind of make you
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feel like oh they're gonna win even
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though you know that they go to jail
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like you know that no you look Google
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that real quick and see that but it's
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like it makes you feel like wow they
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don't really have anything on these kids
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but how are they gonna get these kids
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you know how we're still gonna hit them
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and you know going through that whole
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process was like a whole roller coaster
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and when they get to jail I feel so bad
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Cory Cory had me crying a few episodes
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had me yeah it's so upsetting episodes I
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was so I felt so sorry for him because
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of what he had to go through by himself
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in the UH in the adult prison because he
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was 16 and he knew he wasn't on the list
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he just happened to go help help his
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friend and I already know hey how great
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our enemy useless I guess he's a good
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robot hey let's friends don't what did
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he do it like godly man that was that
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was tough and just kind of see his
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background with his family his his mom
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you know was dealing drugs she's single
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mom she's poor so that's why a lot of
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things happen them because they are so
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focused on the dollar bill just living
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they survive but they can't even take
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him to be focused on loving and treating
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their children right teaching on the
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right things and protected them you know
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so that's one thing that just helps us
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to kind of realize like hey maybe we
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stopped worrying about money all these
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are retirement bills all the time
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everything's like look at your kids
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let's talk to you kids love your
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children cuz in a blink of I know any
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situation can happen is they can taken
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away and you know you read you're
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worried about you know I know your child
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or you know if this Bill's gonna come
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out on time or do you have money for
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this and your kids are growing up and
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right there in front of you so you
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definitely animation pay attention I
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mean a parent
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which is focus on them and teaching
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protect them because they don't know
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and I felt like I just didn't do a good
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job protecting their children in this
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movie I mean just coming around rounding
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children up you know tape around the
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jobs like what in the heck how he's
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going up little 14 year old kids you
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know on the nice house I was baffled
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baffled by it they were probably all at
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work
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yeah that's the thing you know this is
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the same type of payment about
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scratching and surviving you know that
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type of thing can happen if everybody
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they work yeah I guess you're right
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so oh no you know I really say to really
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watch the whole video the whole watch
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all the way through because you learn so
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much about the justice system when it
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comes to when inmates get out and roll
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on things alright there's a lot of
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things I just didn't understand like wow
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you talk to another convicted felon
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basically you have to return to this
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particular place all your life and I
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understand that for some of these people
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that are convicted are you know did do
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these crimes they make it really tough
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and I'm not saying that they should be
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giving a break there's just like
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understanding that a little bit better
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made me understand like okay I could see
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why people go back in prison cuz they
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make it like they make it so hard to
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really change your life once you get out
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yeah yeah you're gonna end up turning
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around you know and going back to what
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you did or tried to make money a
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dishonest way I'm just around because
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you know you but you're kind of
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blackballed through society and you
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can't do anything else about it so it's
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kind of space you feel like you have no
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no-win situation and I'm pretty sad this
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country we have a horrible to me a
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system of judicial system and justice
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system so I think we definitely need to
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change how we rehabilitate people I know
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a lot of countries they have a lot of
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different ways to they've rebuilt a
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people I think was we just don't know
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home in a cage with other people that
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are you know mentally ill and crazy and
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then this expect them to come back
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society and be okay and you know make a
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living you need to
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just stay away from wanting other people
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to make a living like you don't really
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have any process but nobody can get back
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into no working work force they gotta
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live and get a job and if they get some
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details on they get kicked out job
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they're homeless again and what you
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think going what you think they're gonna
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do you know so album arms and show and I
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definitely want you know others take a
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look at it
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hopefully get hopefully get a different
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aspect of no life as a minority in this
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country and you need to be together if
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we were together on a lot of things
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these issues
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I did like real quick before I let you
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go I didn't like to see how the black
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Kamini were still supporting them I know
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where some of them got out they had the
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some of the the way would know you know
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how they kind of talk to someone about
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helping them with you know getting back
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in the workforce I don't know if they
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were gonna help him with jobs but I did
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it did it was cool to see them on on the
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film kind of looking at them helping him
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when he got out you know what about you
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I guess some people that are leaving
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some comments here so I want to read
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what urban Harris said here he's
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watching he said that jobs were in
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jeopardy if you protested the mentality
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of whites were to beat us and hang us I
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was a victim at that time for just
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walking in the part of town where I
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didn't belong now come police ride home
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and I can't see the rest of his message
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there but yeah it's sad it's real and
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again this is something that not just
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black people should pay attention to or
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Hispanic people but white people I know
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exactly what you talking about there
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Irving you know I've had a situation
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myself where I was just our dream
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building just look at it nice houses you
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know and
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I was dressed in a suit you know driving
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a pretty decent car you know now we're
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just stopping and you know I was pulled
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over not by a cop by but some random
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dude in the BMW that decided he was
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gonna get my license tag for what you
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know if my company blood band music and
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publishing you know I had a meeting one
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time where I had my whole staff we were
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talking and other than myself every
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single man on the staff had been pulled
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over by a cop and a half vehicle
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searched for you know looking for
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weapons and drugs every single staff
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member every single one was there I
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can't email it here says I was definite
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it was definitely a different time and
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unfortunately it took situations like
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this to make our loss to make a loss
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change and in some ways become
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aggressive okay I mean progress so I'm
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glad that you guys are checking out the
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show and watching us kenny also said -
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he was on a panel for this and they
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talked about it on tina summit which it
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go of course is something else these
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type of things happen and then they over
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time they kind of disappear and you see
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that in the in the movie it's like yeah
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people will round up initially but over
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time you know it just kind of fades away
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just like all these shootings that we
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see here now but let's go ahead and get
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more specific in lega - first of all i'm
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i talk about a quality production on the
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first two episodes to me were amazing
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and seamless I mean just jumping back
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and forth between the four for boys I
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thought their acting was amazing
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I thought all in the supporting
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characters were amazing you really feel
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everything that's going I think the
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director did a great job of capturing
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the emotions and imprinting them up upon
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you it's a really really well-done TV
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show or a movie I guess a long movie
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experience from a production standpoint
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I felt like the third act the third
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episode wasn't quite as good as the
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others I feel like she did a good job of
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telling you the story but at some point
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it just kind of became like a bird's-eye
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view just kind of looking into what's
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happening with them as opposed to kind
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of putting it together in a way that
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have certain emotional impact
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and I felt they parts of that in the
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fourth movie when that way as well
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however in the fourth episode however
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kind of back towards the middle it
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really started to kind of come together
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again you were following the character
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of Cory and just seeing everything that
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was constantly happening to him just
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getting beat down literally beat down
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all the time gosh it was just terrible
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one of the worst parts talking about
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story a little bit is when he gets to
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the prison and the black security guard
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let something happen to that's that's
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jacked up bro that's fan thanks a lot
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bro Thanks fight the power
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Wow but overall I thought it was other
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than kind of dragging just a bit towards
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the third episode I think it's amazing I
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definitely think it's worth your time to
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watch so think of something everybody
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will enjoy um from the story standpoint
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this young man it's a horror movies for
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black people man it is absolutely
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it's just is terrible man you know to
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see these to see these boys and
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everything that they went through you
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know the fact that they were just there
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they were just there you know and that
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was it that was their only crime and
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they had their entire youth ripped from
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them you know talking about being 14
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years old and getting out of jail you
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know when you are 14 years old 20 years
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old 14 years old the oldest one was 16
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and getting out of jail when you're 30
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years old you know so the time that you
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become a man everything that you
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experience with the opposite sex or the
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same sex how do you want to do it you
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know or relationships College jobs
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learning about money
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to becoming a man in general all of that
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was taken from me for the crime of them
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just being in the area you know and
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here's the thing in 1989 I was 12 years
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old so I was just a couple of years
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younger than the youngest ones in this
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which means that if I was living in New
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York at that time it easily could have
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been me easily if I had just happened to
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be in Central Park and they I could have
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just been swept up you know and there
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were parts in the movie where I'm like
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well why would you why would you give in
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and why would you tell them that you
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know you committed this great when you
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know that you didn't but I also think
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what would I what would
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fourteen-year-old me have done if I were
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locked in jail for four days not just a
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day not just ours but four days without
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the ability to see my parents some of
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our being fed yeah you probably could
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get me the tub you probably could get me
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to say anything you really could and
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Cory had it the works because they just
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brought him in there he wasn't even on
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the list and they just started beating
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him that's terrible they didn't care if
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you saw they put the grandmother out you
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know they put a inch and Tron's
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Antoine's mother out they put her out
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and you know in order to come up with
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these confessions but here's the thing I
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knew that they were mean I knew that
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they were gonna be convicted not just
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because you know we knew what happens
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but also the I think that the the
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defense attorneys did not do a good job
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of understanding that they were fighting
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an uphill battle like I think that they
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like the whole thing about what is it
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what is it the legal precedent is
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innocent until proven guilty and
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reasonable doubt and what they wanted to
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do was prove reasonable doubt but in
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this situation reasonable doubt wasn't
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gonna have to be enough you know the
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idea that it well it might not be them
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that wasn't gonna be enough not when the
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a prosecution has done such a job of
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suing how horribly this woman has been
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you know assaulted somebody had to pay
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the crime you know but my thing would
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have been okay somebody why these but
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why these five yeah if there were 30 40
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boys in the area why what was it about
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these particular files the fact that
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they all they all implicated each other
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okay they said they did it but now
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they're saying that they didn't do it so
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they have a sworn testimony okay but
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they're up here right now under oath
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swearing again so that so which one you
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know we gotta have more than that you
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know but it was just so sad man again I
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recommend it
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anybody watch this movie check it out
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enjoy splitter take some time realize
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that you're probably gonna be upset and
23:15
I do like you said Chuck I appreciate
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the fact that they kind of skipped ahead
23:19
a little bit and spent some time with
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them outside of jail yeah and like yeah
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you really do see like how hard that it
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is and you know know every every one of
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those boys like they were working at the
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movie theater you know working you know
23:36
the rest home cleaning up stuff you know
23:38
and for the rest of their life and that
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hadn't been changed they would be a
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rapist you know you know right that's
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like one of the worst things that you
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could ever have to try to explain on a
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job application you know yeah when I was
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young
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yeah you know I kind of got into it I
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stole cars a little bit you know yeah
23:58
you know I broke into some homes yeah
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you know some things like that but other
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than murder
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yeah I murder yeah I killed somebody
24:05
intentionally that's right other than
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that that's like the worst thing that
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you could say yeah when I was young I
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was young and dumb and I know and I
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raped somebody or or they convicted me
24:17
of raping somebody but I didn't do it
24:18
really oh you didn't do it you know and
24:21
to see how everybody to see how Charlie
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was em was wife Elena to the woman she
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was thick with good guy mamacita but
24:37
anyway how she talked to boy you know I
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can't assume he was a rapist you know
24:42
and that's how it is you know people
24:43
assume that you do the crack them again
24:45
go see this everybody how say everybody
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says they're innocent
24:56
there you go into the old one last thing
24:59
I'm sure you apprised you didn't say the
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quarry yes his acting is amazing he's
25:03
the only the kid
25:04
plays chord is the only one that placed
25:06
all ages of him
25:08
he plays him all the way from 16 all
25:10
over the 30 years old makes you wonder
25:12
how is this kid really
25:14
Hado that's amazing oh yeah everybody up
25:20
at the different person for him he plays
25:22
though the whole room hmm
25:25
have to look at that again I'm pretty
25:35
sure I'm pretty sure he's the same guy
25:37
all the way through I'm pretty sure it
25:39
is comments-section
25:41
get him get him come on calm it all
25:45
right check anything else to say about
25:46
this oh no definitely definitely check
25:50
it out if you haven't and just you know
25:53
something history that we all need to
25:55
know that's right let me see here I'm
26:01
trying I was hoping you gonna talk a
26:03
little bit more so I can have right back
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here
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Cory wives for episodes
26:23
Jarell okay yeah four episodes that's
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all of them
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let me see here but let me see this is
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if I see a young chord wise no is young
26:38
Kevin Richardson young Antoine and time
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for him to get that wrong wrong young
26:44
Yusef and then Corey wise so yeah he
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