
Color Commentary: When They See Us Review
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00:00 one Saturday morning alright guys well 00:12 thanks for checking us out another show 00:13 here this of course is a color 00:16 commentary crew will be give you views 00:18 from a different side cause this is 00:21 Prashad owners founded like a publisher 00:23 a company that gives you access to 00:25 instruments for marching bands across 00:28 the nation xi'an and my compatriot chuck 00:30 taylor owner and founder of cave is 00:32 party easy along with his wife's here 00:34 well they give you parties of all kinds 00:36 we do not have a special intro for this 00:39 because that would be sacrilegious for 00:42 this move or this TV channel since 00:45 netflix TV show called when they see us 00:49 it is a story about the i believe 00:52 they're the harlem five W's i said you 00:55 wanted more classes attention part 5 the 00:57 story of 5 africa scheming for 01:01 african-american use in one Hispanic 01:03 youth who were falsely arrested and 01:08 accused of raping a woman yeah they were 01:11 accused of raping a white woman and jail 01:16 for between 6 and 14 years it's an 01:22 amazing loop so let's go ahead and talk 01:24 about it we'll do a really brief 01:26 non-spoiler review and then we'll give 01:29 our spoiler review on this movie so TV 01:32 show go ahead shut um I guess just for 01:36 purposes I definitely think everybody 01:39 should watch this this this series the 01:42 miniseries it's definitely important 01:45 especially for the african-american and 01:47 the minorities just to kind of know 01:49 where you came from and things that 01:52 could possibly happen 01:53 still to this day it wasn't just that 01:55 long ago that this happened I was I was 01:58 1992 or 7 1989 it's 89 so I was in 331 02:06 this happened so I mean it's not that 02:08 far along I'm not like it was in the 60s 02:10 or something like that this is my 02:13 lifespan right here so yeah definitely 02:17 it's very powerful the actors do a 02:20 wonderful job to convey their situation 02:24 on both sides even the white actors they 02:28 they definitely make sure that you 02:29 believe that they hate they hate white 02:31 people on this movie 02:35 it's very emotional it's hard to watch 02:39 to say hey take your time with it get 02:42 your emotions in check because there's a 02:44 lot of port and information that I think 02:46 everyone needs to know especially about 02:47 the prison system all together how 02:52 everything works with inmates will they 02:54 release our society from you know high 02:58 end to the low end everything just how 03:02 we make up America it gives a shot a 03:06 very big light on a lot of the issues 03:09 that we have in our country but I want 03:17 everybody to make sure they watch it cuz 03:19 it's very compelling it's important but 03:22 yeah I think I got like a gift for nice 03:24 boys just just go watch it I will say I 03:31 saw a lot of posts though this movie 03:33 this TV show came out the week before 03:35 and so I saw a lot of people who had 03:37 already expressed some feelings on it 03:39 one of the things they said about it was 03:41 that this movie is a Keep Calm movie 03:45 this show is a horror movie for black 03:49 people they're 100% right 03:52 it is 100% right particularly the first 03:55 couple episodes now that is exactly how 03:57 it feels like it feels like a horror 04:00 movie except the difference is that when 04:02 you're watching a horror movie no matter 04:04 how much you become invested in that 04:06 movie at the end of it you're able to 04:08 release those most emotions because 04:10 normally there's gonna be some type of 04:11 implicating vindication and also you 04:14 realize it's not real so you move on 04:16 with your life but when you watch this 04:18 you just are left in a state watching 04:21 the first two episodes I remember 04:22 particularly at the end of the second 04:24 episode I just sat there right I didn't 04:27 do anything but probably like a 04:28 half-hour because I was so I was feeling 04:34 man I just like that is horrible that is 04:37 horrible and that that could have been 04:38 me and that could have been that could 04:40 have been your kids you know there's so 04:42 many I mean it's it's terrible man and 04:45 um first of all I will say that I felt 04:49 it's very well made I'll talk about that 04:51 a little bit more as we get into the 04:53 non-spoiler review but um I think it is 04:56 something that everyone should watch not 04:58 just black people know I think people 05:00 all people should should watch it 05:02 because if you're but if you're not a 05:03 black person and you're not paying 05:05 attention to this type of stuff you 05:07 leave yourself oblivious to the things 05:09 that are happening I was watching a 05:12 gentleman that just commented on 05:13 Warren's page a little while ago and I 05:15 could tell by the comments that he was 05:17 leaving on Warren's page that he's 05:18 oblivious to some of the things that are 05:21 happening that people that look like him 05:23 are doing the people that look like us 05:25 you know so you need to watch things 05:28 right they 05:28 so you can know oh yeah yeah yeah these 05:31 things happen 05:33 you know and you need to pay attention 05:34 need to be aware of it and we're aware 05:36 of it and help us to put into it so 05:38 let's go ahead and get into our spoiler 05:42 review here now so you've had the 05:43 opportunity to listen to us so please 05:45 stop and watch the TV show on your own 05:48 if you haven't got that all right 05:50 spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler 05:51 spoiler all right Chuck Taylor what are 05:55 your feelings about the spoiler review 05:56 on when they see us real quick before 05:59 you darl fin to the the topic what do 06:03 you think about the production of the 06:06 show cuz normally most the time we don't 06:08 talk about the topic we talk about the 06:10 production truck so what did you think 06:12 about that I mean I thought it was very 06:14 well made I think I thought after I 06:17 actually finished it I told you it was 06:19 like probably one of the best 06:20 mini-series your best TV show series 06:23 that I've ever watched like a 06:25 documentary of uh you know a true event 06:29 just made it was very compelling all the 06:32 actors were I mean they were so in tune 06:35 to how these characters probably felt at 06:38 the time of this situation from you know 06:41 the children to the parents to the 06:42 siblings to the community to the 06:46 antagonist to the cops that were you 06:50 know putting people falsely accusing 06:52 them but all in all I thought that you 06:56 know it was so it was very it was so 06:58 compelling was like it draws you in so 07:02 well and as you build you think it's 07:06 just a movie but then you realize this 07:07 really happened so just that just takes 07:09 until no love like wow this really 07:11 happened this wasn't just like somebody 07:13 just you know writing a story writing a 07:17 book and then when they bring into life 07:19 in this situation that could have 07:20 happened this actually really happened 07:22 so I thought that they did a probably 07:25 one of the best I've seen all right so 07:30 you can go ahead and get into the topic 07:31 sir um yeah that's the first episode man 07:35 it had me going all types of emotions no 07:39 I was already like he said you've heard 07:42 posts about it being a horror movie for 07:44 black people and even like see no Pete 07:47 this you know we have a Latino brother 07:49 there that had the same situation up in 07:51 the hill so it definitely was you know 07:55 it was gripping I remember when we first 07:59 started washing washing with a group 08:00 people just at the house torn I think 08:02 was like noon and one of our brother 08:05 long can put it on and we were just 08:07 watching it in my I don't know I just I 08:11 mean it had so many different feelings 08:13 that were happening to me at that first 08:15 episode you know after that first 08:17 episode I already finished I think I 08:19 worth like watch like the first half of 08:21 it and I just had to like step away I 08:23 wanna go check out my kids make sure 08:25 everything was okay because yeah just 08:27 this is scary this is very clearly like 08:30 this finger like somebody just snatching 08:32 your kids up and taking the whole life 08:34 away from them and we can't you can't 08:36 even fight seeing the decisions that a 08:40 lot of them were making just made you 08:42 angry I know you can't sit there and say 08:46 judge because you weren't in that 08:47 position but you know seeing some 08:49 decisions that some of the parents made 08:50 maybe not really checking in with their 08:53 kid as much or even when they did know 08:56 what was going on just you know being so 08:57 scared they're just like hey just tell 08:59 them whatever I mean when the father 09:01 said that and as I just kind of broke me 09:03 down like wow he's just no but lie on 09:07 these kids and in life for it and really 09:10 no steal his cash for his own son and 09:13 you know it was it was really hard to 09:16 watch that first episode yeah it took me 09:19 like about two days lose that real quick 09:22 with that dad it's like you don't feel 09:26 one way about him because on one side 09:27 you like how could you do that to your 09:29 son but on the other side to some extent 09:32 that you understand like he's thrown 09:34 he's so terrified of the cops and he 09:36 feels like they're gonna destroy him and 09:38 either possibly kill both of them it's 09:40 just you know that part is really I 09:42 thought it was really good I'm sorry go 09:44 ahead 09:44 yeah 09:47 I guess in June we are cute a few days 09:50 to go back to a new review I gotta 09:52 finish this I'm going to finish it when 09:56 they get to the trial and they get to 09:57 that trial and you see all the evidence 10:00 that all the non evidences they have and 10:02 you feel like you start they do a good 10:05 job with the show to kind of make you 10:06 feel like oh they're gonna win even 10:08 though you know that they go to jail 10:10 like you know that no you look Google 10:13 that real quick and see that but it's 10:15 like it makes you feel like wow they 10:17 don't really have anything on these kids 10:19 but how are they gonna get these kids 10:21 you know how we're still gonna hit them 10:23 and you know going through that whole 10:27 process was like a whole roller coaster 10:29 and when they get to jail I feel so bad 10:34 Cory Cory had me crying a few episodes 10:37 had me yeah it's so upsetting episodes I 10:41 was so I felt so sorry for him because 10:43 of what he had to go through by himself 10:45 in the UH in the adult prison because he 10:47 was 16 and he knew he wasn't on the list 10:50 he just happened to go help help his 10:53 friend and I already know hey how great 10:56 our enemy useless I guess he's a good 10:58 robot hey let's friends don't what did 11:03 he do it like godly man that was that 11:05 was tough and just kind of see his 11:07 background with his family his his mom 11:11 you know was dealing drugs she's single 11:13 mom she's poor so that's why a lot of 11:17 things happen them because they are so 11:18 focused on the dollar bill just living 11:21 they survive but they can't even take 11:24 him to be focused on loving and treating 11:26 their children right teaching on the 11:27 right things and protected them you know 11:29 so that's one thing that just helps us 11:31 to kind of realize like hey maybe we 11:33 stopped worrying about money all these 11:35 are retirement bills all the time 11:37 everything's like look at your kids 11:38 let's talk to you kids love your 11:39 children cuz in a blink of I know any 11:41 situation can happen is they can taken 11:43 away and you know you read you're 11:45 worried about you know I know your child 11:48 or you know if this Bill's gonna come 11:50 out on time or do you have money for 11:51 this and your kids are growing up and 11:53 right there in front of you so you 11:55 definitely animation pay attention I 11:56 mean a parent 11:57 which is focus on them and teaching 11:59 protect them because they don't know 12:02 and I felt like I just didn't do a good 12:05 job protecting their children in this 12:07 movie I mean just coming around rounding 12:09 children up you know tape around the 12:11 jobs like what in the heck how he's 12:14 going up little 14 year old kids you 12:18 know on the nice house I was baffled 12:20 baffled by it they were probably all at 12:23 work 12:23 yeah that's the thing you know this is 12:25 the same type of payment about 12:26 scratching and surviving you know that 12:29 type of thing can happen if everybody 12:30 they work yeah I guess you're right 12:33 so oh no you know I really say to really 12:37 watch the whole video the whole watch 12:39 all the way through because you learn so 12:41 much about the justice system when it 12:43 comes to when inmates get out and roll 12:46 on things alright there's a lot of 12:47 things I just didn't understand like wow 12:48 you talk to another convicted felon 12:52 basically you have to return to this 12:54 particular place all your life and I 12:57 understand that for some of these people 12:59 that are convicted are you know did do 13:02 these crimes they make it really tough 13:04 and I'm not saying that they should be 13:05 giving a break there's just like 13:07 understanding that a little bit better 13:08 made me understand like okay I could see 13:10 why people go back in prison cuz they 13:13 make it like they make it so hard to 13:14 really change your life once you get out 13:16 yeah yeah you're gonna end up turning 13:18 around you know and going back to what 13:20 you did or tried to make money a 13:22 dishonest way I'm just around because 13:25 you know you but you're kind of 13:26 blackballed through society and you 13:28 can't do anything else about it so it's 13:30 kind of space you feel like you have no 13:32 no-win situation and I'm pretty sad this 13:37 country we have a horrible to me a 13:42 system of judicial system and justice 13:45 system so I think we definitely need to 13:47 change how we rehabilitate people I know 13:50 a lot of countries they have a lot of 13:52 different ways to they've rebuilt a 13:53 people I think was we just don't know 13:55 home in a cage with other people that 13:58 are you know mentally ill and crazy and 14:01 then this expect them to come back 14:04 society and be okay and you know make a 14:07 living you need to 14:09 just stay away from wanting other people 14:11 to make a living like you don't really 14:12 have any process but nobody can get back 14:14 into no working work force they gotta 14:17 live and get a job and if they get some 14:20 details on they get kicked out job 14:22 they're homeless again and what you 14:23 think going what you think they're gonna 14:24 do you know so album arms and show and I 14:30 definitely want you know others take a 14:33 look at it 14:34 hopefully get hopefully get a different 14:36 aspect of no life as a minority in this 14:40 country and you need to be together if 14:43 we were together on a lot of things 14:45 these issues 14:47 I did like real quick before I let you 14:49 go I didn't like to see how the black 14:52 Kamini were still supporting them I know 14:55 where some of them got out they had the 14:56 some of the the way would know you know 15:19 how they kind of talk to someone about 15:21 helping them with you know getting back 15:24 in the workforce I don't know if they 15:26 were gonna help him with jobs but I did 15:28 it did it was cool to see them on on the 15:31 film kind of looking at them helping him 15:34 when he got out you know what about you 15:40 I guess some people that are leaving 15:43 some comments here so I want to read 15:44 what urban Harris said here he's 15:46 watching he said that jobs were in 15:48 jeopardy if you protested the mentality 15:51 of whites were to beat us and hang us I 15:54 was a victim at that time for just 15:56 walking in the part of town where I 15:58 didn't belong now come police ride home 16:00 and I can't see the rest of his message 16:03 there but yeah it's sad it's real and 16:06 again this is something that not just 16:08 black people should pay attention to or 16:09 Hispanic people but white people I know 16:12 exactly what you talking about there 16:14 Irving you know I've had a situation 16:16 myself where I was just our dream 16:19 building just look at it nice houses you 16:21 know and 16:22 I was dressed in a suit you know driving 16:24 a pretty decent car you know now we're 16:26 just stopping and you know I was pulled 16:28 over not by a cop by but some random 16:31 dude in the BMW that decided he was 16:32 gonna get my license tag for what you 16:36 know if my company blood band music and 16:39 publishing you know I had a meeting one 16:40 time where I had my whole staff we were 16:43 talking and other than myself every 16:46 single man on the staff had been pulled 16:49 over by a cop and a half vehicle 16:52 searched for you know looking for 16:54 weapons and drugs every single staff 16:56 member every single one was there I 16:59 can't email it here says I was definite 17:02 it was definitely a different time and 17:03 unfortunately it took situations like 17:05 this to make our loss to make a loss 17:08 change and in some ways become 17:09 aggressive okay I mean progress so I'm 17:12 glad that you guys are checking out the 17:14 show and watching us kenny also said - 17:16 he was on a panel for this and they 17:20 talked about it on tina summit which it 17:21 go of course is something else these 17:23 type of things happen and then they over 17:25 time they kind of disappear and you see 17:27 that in the in the movie it's like yeah 17:29 people will round up initially but over 17:31 time you know it just kind of fades away 17:34 just like all these shootings that we 17:36 see here now but let's go ahead and get 17:38 more specific in lega - first of all i'm 17:41 i talk about a quality production on the 17:43 first two episodes to me were amazing 17:45 and seamless I mean just jumping back 17:49 and forth between the four for boys I 17:51 thought their acting was amazing 17:53 I thought all in the supporting 17:55 characters were amazing you really feel 17:58 everything that's going I think the 18:00 director did a great job of capturing 18:01 the emotions and imprinting them up upon 18:05 you it's a really really well-done TV 18:09 show or a movie I guess a long movie 18:11 experience from a production standpoint 18:14 I felt like the third act the third 18:17 episode wasn't quite as good as the 18:19 others I feel like she did a good job of 18:22 telling you the story but at some point 18:25 it just kind of became like a bird's-eye 18:27 view just kind of looking into what's 18:30 happening with them as opposed to kind 18:33 of putting it together in a way that 18:34 have certain emotional impact 18:36 and I felt they parts of that in the 18:38 fourth movie when that way as well 18:40 however in the fourth episode however 18:43 kind of back towards the middle it 18:46 really started to kind of come together 18:48 again you were following the character 18:50 of Cory and just seeing everything that 18:53 was constantly happening to him just 18:55 getting beat down literally beat down 18:58 all the time gosh it was just terrible 19:00 one of the worst parts talking about 19:02 story a little bit is when he gets to 19:04 the prison and the black security guard 19:06 let something happen to that's that's 19:09 jacked up bro that's fan thanks a lot 19:12 bro Thanks fight the power 19:13 Wow but overall I thought it was other 19:16 than kind of dragging just a bit towards 19:19 the third episode I think it's amazing I 19:21 definitely think it's worth your time to 19:23 watch so think of something everybody 19:24 will enjoy um from the story standpoint 19:28 this young man it's a horror movies for 19:31 black people man it is absolutely 19:33 it's just is terrible man you know to 19:37 see these to see these boys and 19:38 everything that they went through you 19:40 know the fact that they were just there 19:41 they were just there you know and that 19:44 was it that was their only crime and 19:46 they had their entire youth ripped from 19:50 them you know talking about being 14 19:52 years old and getting out of jail you 19:55 know when you are 14 years old 20 years 19:58 old 14 years old the oldest one was 16 20:02 and getting out of jail when you're 30 20:04 years old you know so the time that you 20:06 become a man everything that you 20:08 experience with the opposite sex or the 20:11 same sex how do you want to do it you 20:13 know or relationships College jobs 20:16 learning about money 20:18 to becoming a man in general all of that 20:20 was taken from me for the crime of them 20:24 just being in the area you know and 20:27 here's the thing in 1989 I was 12 years 20:31 old so I was just a couple of years 20:35 younger than the youngest ones in this 20:37 which means that if I was living in New 20:40 York at that time it easily could have 20:42 been me easily if I had just happened to 20:46 be in Central Park and they I could have 20:50 just been swept up you know and there 20:52 were parts in the movie where I'm like 20:54 well why would you why would you give in 20:55 and why would you tell them that you 20:58 know you committed this great when you 20:59 know that you didn't but I also think 21:01 what would I what would 21:02 fourteen-year-old me have done if I were 21:05 locked in jail for four days not just a 21:09 day not just ours but four days without 21:12 the ability to see my parents some of 21:14 our being fed yeah you probably could 21:16 get me the tub you probably could get me 21:17 to say anything you really could and 21:20 Cory had it the works because they just 21:22 brought him in there he wasn't even on 21:23 the list and they just started beating 21:26 him that's terrible they didn't care if 21:31 you saw they put the grandmother out you 21:33 know they put a inch and Tron's 21:37 Antoine's mother out they put her out 21:39 and you know in order to come up with 21:42 these confessions but here's the thing I 21:43 knew that they were mean I knew that 21:45 they were gonna be convicted not just 21:47 because you know we knew what happens 21:48 but also the I think that the the 21:53 defense attorneys did not do a good job 21:55 of understanding that they were fighting 21:57 an uphill battle like I think that they 22:00 like the whole thing about what is it 22:02 what is it the legal precedent is 22:05 innocent until proven guilty and 22:08 reasonable doubt and what they wanted to 22:10 do was prove reasonable doubt but in 22:12 this situation reasonable doubt wasn't 22:15 gonna have to be enough you know the 22:17 idea that it well it might not be them 22:19 that wasn't gonna be enough not when the 22:22 a prosecution has done such a job of 22:25 suing how horribly this woman has been 22:28 you know assaulted somebody had to pay 22:31 the crime you know but my thing would 22:33 have been okay somebody why these but 22:36 why these five yeah if there were 30 40 22:39 boys in the area why what was it about 22:42 these particular files the fact that 22:45 they all they all implicated each other 22:46 okay they said they did it but now 22:49 they're saying that they didn't do it so 22:52 they have a sworn testimony okay but 22:54 they're up here right now under oath 22:56 swearing again so that so which one you 23:00 know we gotta have more than that you 23:02 know but it was just so sad man again I 23:06 recommend it 23:07 anybody watch this movie check it out 23:10 enjoy splitter take some time realize 23:13 that you're probably gonna be upset and 23:15 I do like you said Chuck I appreciate 23:17 the fact that they kind of skipped ahead 23:19 a little bit and spent some time with 23:21 them outside of jail yeah and like yeah 23:25 you really do see like how hard that it 23:27 is and you know know every every one of 23:30 those boys like they were working at the 23:33 movie theater you know working you know 23:36 the rest home cleaning up stuff you know 23:38 and for the rest of their life and that 23:40 hadn't been changed they would be a 23:42 rapist you know you know right that's 23:46 like one of the worst things that you 23:48 could ever have to try to explain on a 23:51 job application you know yeah when I was 23:53 young 23:54 yeah you know I kind of got into it I 23:55 stole cars a little bit you know yeah 23:58 you know I broke into some homes yeah 24:00 you know some things like that but other 24:02 than murder 24:03 yeah I murder yeah I killed somebody 24:05 intentionally that's right other than 24:07 that that's like the worst thing that 24:09 you could say yeah when I was young I 24:11 was young and dumb and I know and I 24:13 raped somebody or or they convicted me 24:17 of raping somebody but I didn't do it 24:18 really oh you didn't do it you know and 24:21 to see how everybody to see how Charlie 24:26 was em was wife Elena to the woman she 24:34 was thick with good guy mamacita but 24:37 anyway how she talked to boy you know I 24:40 can't assume he was a rapist you know 24:42 and that's how it is you know people 24:43 assume that you do the crack them again 24:45 go see this everybody how say everybody 24:50 says they're innocent 24:56 there you go into the old one last thing 24:59 I'm sure you apprised you didn't say the 25:01 quarry yes his acting is amazing he's 25:03 the only the kid 25:04 plays chord is the only one that placed 25:06 all ages of him 25:08 he plays him all the way from 16 all 25:10 over the 30 years old makes you wonder 25:12 how is this kid really 25:14 Hado that's amazing oh yeah everybody up 25:20 at the different person for him he plays 25:22 though the whole room hmm 25:25 have to look at that again I'm pretty 25:35 sure I'm pretty sure he's the same guy 25:37 all the way through I'm pretty sure it 25:39 is comments-section 25:41 get him get him come on calm it all 25:45 right check anything else to say about 25:46 this oh no definitely definitely check 25:50 it out if you haven't and just you know 25:53 something history that we all need to 25:55 know that's right let me see here I'm 26:01 trying I was hoping you gonna talk a 26:03 little bit more so I can have right back 26:11 here 26:17 Cory wives for episodes 26:23 Jarell okay yeah four episodes that's 26:27 all of them 26:29 let me see here but let me see this is 26:33 if I see a young chord wise no is young 26:38 Kevin Richardson young Antoine and time 26:42 for him to get that wrong wrong young 26:44 Yusef and then Corey wise so yeah he 26:47 plays also all four episodes Wow the 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