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comm I am your host Brendon and I'm
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joined by
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marquita hey yo and we're here to talk
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about Will Smith's
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latest movie Gemini man and we're also
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going to talk about the new Netflix show
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raising Deon with spoilers later but
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first I won't do a quick follow-up on
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our joke review from last week yeah
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first shout-out to everyone who gave us
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such positive feedback it's I've
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probably never had so much for one of
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our shows I think was a really important
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show to have yeah for sure thank you
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marquita one of our longest listeners
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and she wrote a big comment on the page
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about appreciating you talking about
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mental health and how that's personal
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for you and that was brave enough to
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make me come out about it myself so
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thank you oh I didn't think I did much
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but you're welcome sure ok let's go on
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to Joker box office numbers because we
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talked about last time venom had the
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record from last year Joker is the new
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king of October with a 96 million dollar
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weakened gross
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I can definitely believe that yeah I
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couldn't believe that venom was the top
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of all movies Benham but now it's been
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replaced so I feel I feel happier yeah
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you hear about the the scare at that
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movie theater luckily there was no
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actual violence this weekend
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but there was a scare that there was
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some some man mm-hmm he was laughing
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obnoxiously at the murders in the movie
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and so people like start to leave the
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theater because they were afraid yeah I
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would have probably left as well oh yeah
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that's terrifying yeah like I said last
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week like you don't know who it could be
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no not at all I had a homie
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post on Instagram like all that
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fear-mongering for nothing and I'm like
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better safe than sorry like you we know
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where we live yeah well we don't live
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there anymore
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but where y'all live yeah let's start
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off with Jim and I man Oh God
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oh don't spoil I like to let the
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audience kind of guess where we fall on
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it but it's okay for people who don't
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know we live in Korea and I've actually
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lived in Asia for nearly all my adult
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life I lived in Korea for 11 years now
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and one year in Japan I studied there
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the celebrity that the natives have
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compared me the most to has been Will
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Smith of course for the children
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I was Obama teacher for a long time I
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was once called Iron Man's friend
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teacher and of course last year I was
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called mr. Black Panther by a few kids
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you are wearing a black panther shirt
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today so you know if it makes you feel
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any better I was compared to Serena
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Williams by my adult students okay I
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mean he's I mean she's great yeah better
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than being like you know crack head
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teacher I'm like I don't know there are
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worse people to be called to be compared
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to right yeah definitely okay but yeah
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it will Smith man you look at what Will
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Smith did in the 90s Fresh Prince bad
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boys in 95 the following year
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independence
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a which redefined summer blockbusters as
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we knew them next year men in black next
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year enemy of the state next year wild
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wild well with yeah let's let's just
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keep going
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Bagger Vance but you know hey Ally
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Eileen mm you know it was great that
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boys to a bit of forgettable stuff for
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several years until I am Legend that was
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a big juggernaut hit and the pursuit of
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happiness which really showcased just
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how much range
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he had beyond you know the quips the
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hahahaha I got some information from
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Digital Spy and I learned a few things
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in the 2000s Will Smith became the only
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actor ever to have eight consecutive
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movies gross over 100 million dollars at
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the u.s. box office
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I can definitely believe that yeah I
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assume the rock or someone has probably
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outdone him there to some degree now but
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then you look at his movies over the
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past decade
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it's like wangster by 50 cent you know
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damn homie back in the day you was the
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man homie in 2016 for was reported that
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Will Smith was the second most overpaid
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actor in Hollywood he was only second to
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Johnny Depp in costs and efficiency I'm
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assuming that means how much they paid
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compared to the box office they bring in
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right you know after earth happened oh
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yeah you know things got so rough he
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turned to Netflix with that bright movie
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you watch their movie I tried to but I
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had to turn off like 30 minutes and it
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was so boring I couldn't I didn't watch
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it so now we have Gemini man or The
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Fresh Prince of Assassins aesthetically
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this marries the cool imagery of Will
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Smith holding rifles like in I am Legend
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and the nostalgia for when he was
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younger you know like people talking
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about this movie is it a return to form
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for Will Smith well we already know
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where Keita falls on it when I when I
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saw the trailer I only thought of one
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thing that CGI looks
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bad yeah like how are they going to
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carry that for an entire movie and I'm
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here to report that my concerns were
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largely well-founded let me get this out
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the way - I did not like this movie I
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don't recommend it it's very forgettable
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we'll get to the CJI later let's start
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with the basic summary Will Smith plays
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Henry Brogan he's the ultimate assassin
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the opening scene is him
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sniping a man inside of a moving bullet
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train while he himself is like 2
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kilometres away
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movie shows you that he really is like
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the black John wick with more highs but
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for Henry that was his last job but
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because he learned something he
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shouldn't have on his way out he gets
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targeted for death soon after he learns
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that the person hunting him is in fact
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his clone you know it's it's a decent
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premise with potential you know the
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themes military industrial complex
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ethics midlife crises regrets whatnot
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standard fare what elevates movies with
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these basic plots are character dialogue
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direction and action unfortunately this
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movie fails in some ways or it's just to
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me
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mediocre in others mm-hmm I highly agree
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like personally I felt as though this
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could have been better as like a Call of
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Duty game like that's what it felt like
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to me like you said the the story is
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just kind of you know like you can kind
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of re guess what what is going on
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through the trailer and you want to
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watch the movie like as I was watching
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it it was basically just you know trying
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to be this hero action movie and it was
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trying to like show Will Smith you know
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as good as he was and in the old days
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and things like that and look at this
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cool imagery of Will Smith you know with
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a gun and doing a chase but it just kind
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of fell flat for me
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but even in this movie even the younger
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version is doing like parkour if you've
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never seen what do so it's kind of it's
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a little bit too much like it's too I
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don't know
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well let's get to it I want to start
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with character Will Smith is Will Smith
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he he plays closer to Robert Neville's
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character and I am Legend you know the
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badass loner but he definitely has more
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heart off the bat he tries to convey
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that his job took a toll on him and all
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he wants is peace and I think he did his
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thing largely like Will Smith may appear
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in bad movies but he's never been a bad
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actor right yeah the supporting cast is
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pretty small mary elizabeth winstead
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gets the largest amount of screen time
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with Will Smith as Danny remember her
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big movie it's a big big nerd movie what
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is it
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she was Ramona Flowers from Scott
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Pilgrim vs. the world I mean apparently
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not in people saw it because it didn't
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really gross that high but I think it's
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one of the best comic adaptations of all
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time mm-hmm that's great but yeah I
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think she has action movie potential
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like probably my favorite scene my
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favorite action scene was probably with
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her yeah because she fought against an
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actual person and there's more gravity
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to the hits and the damage it was very
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visceral yeah the other characters are
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Clive Owen as the bad guy there is
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that's pretty standard bad guy name well
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should we say that because that might
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give it away no no no off the bat you
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know who he is in the trailer you know
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who he is mmm-hmm I mean he he sends the
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assassin so obviously we know who he is
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he's a bad guy
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that was pretty lackluster character to
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me and Benedict Wong he actually did
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something this time like he actually did
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something I'm so proud of him he's come
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a long way yeah he's a friend to Henry
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and he brings the comedic relief
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I think he's fine like I can never hate
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on Vinick one yeah he's a good actor
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it's just that like his his character
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he's never gonna live down the like
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wrong from and get from Avengers like he
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actually did something in this movie so
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I was very happy as like all the gay he
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seems like one of the guys you just want
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to have a beer with yeah he seems really
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chill I want to go on to the CGI now hmm
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we're gonna rip it up I'll say the CGI
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on junior who is The Fresh Prince from
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now let's call The Fresh Prince
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the CGI when The Fresh Prince was
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inconsistent yeah I think when he
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stationary it often looks pretty good
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right it takes a minute to get used to
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the CGI but given what Marvel has done
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with their own D aging technology with
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Samuel Jackson and Michael Douglas and
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even Robert Downey jr. it doesn't really
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hold up as well to me mm-hmm
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but again and those the aging scenes
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with Marvel they didn't really have a
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lot of action going on you could say
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Captain Marvel kind of had it but that
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wasn't a good movie anyway so anyway but
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the the CGI like when like you said when
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he's stationary it's it's okay but then
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when they fought you at least I could
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definitely tell and I was like this is I
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is your grandma still listening possibly
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well I thought this is okay yes I will
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say not CGI related but I will
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definitely say shoutouts to the
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Philadelphia roots they do mention
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Philadelphia in the movie so I'm from
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Philadelphia so when I heard that I was
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like yeah Philly represents yeah because
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jr. isn't a real character he's the only
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CGI aspect of the film is sighs bullet
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sometimes
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and he can look out of place during his
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first entrance and fight with him Henry
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he looked like a video game character
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though that he moved or something from a
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movie of a previous decade and I assume
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the producers and directors recognizes
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he G was bad because the longest fight
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scene between Henry and jr. was at night
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inside of a catacomb yeah fortunately
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there weren't any quick edits so you
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didn't know what was going on but it was
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obnoxiously dark enough to see the
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intent of masking the weak CGI yeah I
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think besides the fight with ramona
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flowers i love that name
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yeah I think the first action scene with
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them was the best when they were in
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Colombia it's in a trailer like they're
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both riding motorcycles one of them is
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on top of a roof I agree but I think
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it's swelled itself at the conclusion
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just doing ridiculous stuff but at the
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same time like seeing what happened like
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he eventually like runs out of bullets
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The Fresh Prince runs out of bullets so
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like you know he has to try to finish
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the job in the way that he can but he
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kicked him easy ass with a motorcycle
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I thought that was like I didn't think
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that yeah like you said I think that's
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the best scene the best fight scene in
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the entire movie but I thought that that
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was particularly cool like but I thought
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it was really weird how even though Will
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Smith is this you know the greatest
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assassin of all time still like how can
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you move that quickly while you're being
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fought with a motorcycle you know what I
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mean like that that part was just kind
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of unbelievable for me and that kind of
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ruined it for me
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I found it crazy that given all that The
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Fresh Prince dealt to Henry he was
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knocked out or just dead hmm I mean it's
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like John wick in the end plot armor
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like after unbelievable beatdowns
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they're fine they get a few bandages
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maybe a stitch or two and it's business
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as usual
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and I hate that yeah but it's like we we
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gave John wick a pass because it had
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style a more an interesting character
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and better world building to to let you
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know that this world is pretty much a
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superhero comic like universe where
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anything could happen for Jim and I man
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it hints at the ridiculous like with
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that train assassination but never
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really revisits that kind of crazy it
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attempts to be more grounded but in
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effect it's largely blurring and
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inconsistent with what it wants to be
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the dialogue is often I role worthy
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during the dramatic parts I saw this
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with some friends and I often did that
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like Fresh Prince shrug action meme
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throughout this is written by some of
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the people who wrote Shazam which I
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didn't like x-men origins Wolverine
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mmm-hmm turbo goosebumps
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but Game of Thrones which I've never
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seen
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besides Game of Thrones sad really high
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pedigree of talent there yeah and this
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was directed by Angley yeah that's what
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I noticed as soon as I saw the credits
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pop up I was like okay you know
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Crouching Tiger Brokeback Mountain Life
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of Pi he takes several years between
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films mm-hmm what was so attractive
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about this to make him want to do it the
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direction was straight forward and I
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almost feel cheated that he used
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darkness to cover for the lack of
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production in the CGI but to his credit
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the scene that I was talking about
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before it wasn't a bad scene right yeah
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I don't have much else to say about this
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movie to be honest I'll just wrap up
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with my thoughts and I'll let you do the
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same I'll use one of the lines from the
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movie none of this was necessary of
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course you know no active film is
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necessary but for me it's like who is
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this for like who's your audience this
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was just aggressively mediocre to me
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whatever formula that Will Smith used to
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use to choose his movies he really needs
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to reconfigure yeah definitely it's like
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he's still a wonderful actor mm-hm and
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like I think everyone
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is waiting for him to come back and just
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give us a win even if he makes ten more
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of these movies will still wait for him
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yeah but brah choose better movies
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mm-hmm well my thoughts like I said when
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I walked in this definitely was a labor
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of love for this show for me like I saw
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the trailer and I was kind of interested
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but at the same time I thought I don't
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know like Will Smith's you know last few
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movies they weren't great you know he's
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a great guy I love him to death you know
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from my hometown Philly represent but at
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the same time what did I tell you when
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you when you asked it like if you wanted
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to see it at like 10:00 in the morning I
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was like I'm not sure if it's worth me
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waking up early on a holiday to see and
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I I don't feel like I wasted my time but
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at the same time don't pay to see just
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wait until it comes out Netflix Netflix
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or stream it or something like that
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when you just want a time killer there's
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something like that yeah
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cook your food clip your toenails clean
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the house while you're watching this is
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not it's not important I talked about
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Will Smith in Obama but I feel like even
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just he's such a important figure for
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black culture really even his family I
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feel like are more iconic than the Obama
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family I mean everyone knows Michelle
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you know and the daughters you know but
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like everyone knows Jada
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everyone knows willow right man just
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make a better movie please yeah we love
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you Will Smith we just don't love some
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of the movies I mean at this point the
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ratio it's like Star Wars you know Star
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Wars first came out those two movies
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were like pop pop pop good but man they
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kept making them and that and that that
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ratio of good to bad movies started to
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started tilt
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yeah little Smith mmm good for you man
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fellow Philadelphians we gotta stick
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together
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yeah on that note I want us to share
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our favorites Will Smith movie like my
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loafers I don't know Oh can it be like
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favorite Will Smith roles and not movies
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in particular why not both what what do
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you have in mind you go first
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my favorite Will Smith movie is enemy of
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the state
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I think a lot of people point to like
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The Pursuit of Happyness or in
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Finisterre men in black but I'm you know
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my major was International Studies and
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Human Rights politics and whatnot and so
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even before I went to college in me the
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state kind of tapped into that that
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paranoia about government surveillance
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and just how much are they doing to us
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and that movie is more relevant than
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ever
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right right yeah it's obviously dated in
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some of the technology of course but the
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overall themes I thought were great Will
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Smith was great you know his best movie
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is he's paired with someone else right
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bad boy she's paired with Martin
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Lawrence defense day he's kind of paired
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with Jeff Goldblum a little bit mm-hmm
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men in black he's paired with Tommy Lee
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Jones but I really liked his
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interactions with Gene Hackman
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it was very unique so yeah that's my
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movie man you did easily oh I can't pick
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just one I I think let's see I I think
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I'm just gonna go with the classic like
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it's not a movie but his classic role in
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The Fresh Prince movie she's a movie a
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movie it's not fair okay a movie in
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particular I want to say men in black
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it's a good movie yeah I watched that
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this year it's still great it's still
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funny yeah I think like a lot of people
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say like men in black - men in black 3
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weird you know cash grabs or whatever
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but I think if you watch the whole
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series especially like men in black 3
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like it sounds dumb but I actually cried
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it men in black 3 really have you seen
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it no man I watched - I think minute
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black - 2 is in like 2 still may be the
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worst theatrical experience I've ever
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had like I almost walk out the theater I
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was so angry at that movie I mean men in
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black - wasn't great but I think men in
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black 3 well
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it it ties in a lot of stuff all right
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it was better yeah so I know I'll catch
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it on Netflix if you're still there yeah
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I'll check it out okay let us know what
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your favorite Will Smith movie is in the
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comments and let us know how you feel
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about Gemini man if you actually go see
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it now let's shift focus to raising
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Dione
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this is a new Netflix show it came out
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October 4th same day as the Joker mm-hmm
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and the new Danny Brown album check that
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out for you rap fans out there which
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marquita is not one oh that was subtle
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for those unaware the basic premise is a
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single mother learns that her son has
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superpowers and does her best to help
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him control them and protect him from
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forces that would exploit him mm-hmm
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or harm him this is based off of a 2015
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comic book and short film by Dennis Lew
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Carol Barbie adapted a screenplay from
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them and the series was greenlit in 2017
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with both Barbie and Lou as executive
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producers and obviously the biggest name
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on the credits is kill monger himself
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right Michael B Jordan served as
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executive producer and a supporting role
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I'm looking forward to this for a few
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years now ever since I saw the short
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film and a bit has changed since then
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but we'll need to talk about that a
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little later let's start off with the
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good and I personally think there is a
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lot of good here the strongest aspect of
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the show is the cast Alecia Wainwright
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is fantastic as Nicole warned the mother
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of Dion haven't been raised by a single
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mother at myself since Dion's age I
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could totally feel her her joy anxiety
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loneliness as well as her genuine warmth
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and concern for her child you really
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feel for her her biggest role before
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this was in Shadowhunters I haven't seen
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that show but she's largely just had
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kind of supporting roles prior to this
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but I sincerely hope she'd get some more
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work in the future I think she's a great
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actress mm-hmm she definitely put a lot
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of effort in but I wouldn't say that her
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performance was my favorite I'm not
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saying she was bad but just I don't know
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there were there were some parts that I
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thought could have been better she looks
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like Alicia Keys is like younger sister
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I was actually thinking that like she
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reminds me of Alicia Keys she's
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absolutely gorgeous which raised a flag
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in the show sometimes for me mm-hmm
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because she's struggling to find a job
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and talks about how out of shape she is
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but I'm looking at the screen like me
25:03
you know it's like we can all see you
25:05
there's even some flashbacks to her in
25:07
her college years it she looks the same
25:11
hmm
25:12
and that's kind of and that's kind of a
25:14
knock on the on the show which Mimi may
25:15
get to a little later on but despite her
25:17
being just like model level just of
25:19
beauty she still has that lady next door
25:23
vibe to her especially when she's
25:24
stressed out mm-hmm
25:26
sometimes when she's like going in for a
25:27
job interview she's like you know
25:28
obviously gorgeous but when in stressful
25:31
times and she's exhausted or yeah we're
25:34
tired she definitely has a more lay next
25:37
to her kind of vibe matter I mean yeah
25:40
she did but I think that also speaks to
25:42
the fact that the the woman who's
25:45
playing Dion's mother in the the trailer
25:48
is different and a lot of people were
25:50
upset about I mean in the in the short
25:52
film in the short films I'm sure if I'm
25:54
not trailer so like I think a lot of
25:57
people a lot of people had said well why
25:59
did that actress change because they
26:03
said that felt a little bit more
26:05
realistic it felt a little bit like she
26:08
she had more of a how can I say like it
26:11
felt like she had more of a motherly
26:13
vibe and then a lot of a lot of folks
26:15
that I've seen online have been kind of
26:18
bringing in the the c-word colorism so I
26:22
I kind of wondered about that because of
26:25
course she is beautiful but it's like
26:28
why didn't they go with the original
26:30
actress why did they change
26:34
you know that kind of thing sure there
26:36
is no actress but also the original idea
26:39
right is even the in the short film she
26:42
made she made her own superhero book to
26:44
teach her son how to be a better right I
26:47
chose powers I haven't read the comic
26:49
book so I don't know like what is mmm
26:51
what's true because even in the short
26:54
film her late husband was in the
26:57
military mm-hmm whereas in this show
26:59
Michael B Jordan is his father and he
27:03
was scientist right so I don't know what
27:05
what's more accurate I don't know if she
27:06
was darker in the comic book or etc and
27:08
on the notion of colorism I'm gonna I'm
27:12
gonna come back to that in a second but
27:14
I think her chemistry with Dione was
27:17
great yeah and it almost makes you
27:20
forget that that boy looks nothing like
27:23
her right but I I didn't want to say
27:27
anything but it's just no it's very true
27:29
yeah in the short film the mother in the
27:31
son definitely look more related right
27:34
in these these people it's kind of like
27:38
chadwick boseman playing James Brown
27:42
it's like you don't look at all like
27:44
James Brown but you're so good at acting
27:47
like him that we let it go if you just
27:50
had a picture of the father mother and
27:52
son together you're like somebody mmm no
27:56
this ain't working out but they work so
27:59
well together yeah you let it go I did
28:03
what colorism I I definitely I feel you
28:06
on that mm-hmm for sure
28:09
Josiah Young plays dianna he's great you
28:12
know he was really good yeah he's he's
28:14
precocious but very innocent with his
28:16
faith and trust in others however he's
28:19
not perfect by any means but I think
28:22
that that's also just him being a child
28:25
like I think I really enjoyed his acting
28:28
because like it felt it felt like his
28:31
real responses like yeah sure you know
28:33
he was given dialogues whatnot but like
28:35
he did it in the way that a child would
28:38
actually do it right and that's that I
28:41
think that's one of the big reasons why
28:43
I enjoyed this because you know the the
28:45
children who were acting they
28:47
they just were themselves and yes from
28:50
what we could see they had a lot of fun
28:52
with it so totally yeah you have this
28:57
kid who could do all these amazing
28:58
things and all sunny says squirrel and
29:01
runs off to go chase a squirrel I love
29:03
that part in the forest you know there
29:05
are so many little things like that as
29:07
you said children just being children
29:09
and a mother and son interacting in the
29:12
midst of all this crazy stuff you know
29:14
stop bringing the house mm-hmm you know
29:16
no snacks before bed and those little
29:18
tiny touches nicknames and we got to
29:22
talk about esperanza though oh my God my
29:24
favorite she was my fave like my
29:27
absolutely favorite character of the
29:30
entire show absolutely I loved her any
29:32
time she was on screen she always knew
29:34
what to say she had the personality oh I
29:37
loved her so much
29:39
Sammy Sammy Haney is that correct Sammy
29:41
Haney she actually commented on our
29:43
Instagram page hi family
29:45
amazing yes she just started acting this
29:50
year really she has osteogenesis
29:53
imperfecta type 3 which is also known as
29:56
brittle bone disease so even in a show
30:00
that centers around a black boy and his
30:02
black single mother with broad
30:04
discussions of racism and sexism we'll
30:06
get into that later addressing ableism
30:09
is something that mainstream media
30:11
doesn't do as often especially with
30:15
children and family shows so it was
30:17
really refreshing to see that even in a
30:20
broader sense and it was refreshing to
30:23
see an actual disabled person work as
30:25
opposed to someone just acting in a
30:28
chair it as you said with the children
30:30
it added more realism to her character
30:32
she just seems really sweet as a person
30:35
mm-hmm and it just it just jets out and
30:38
her acting she is someone who I would
30:41
definitely want to hang out with like if
30:44
I if I were still teaching children like
30:46
she is someone who I would really love
30:48
to have in my class yeah you just want a
30:51
hug every time she's on screen whenever
30:53
someone's mean to her your heart breaks
30:55
but then she just like she just punches
30:58
right back yeah
31:00
and I love it yeah apparently the person
31:03
who played her father in the show was
31:04
actually her father Wow
31:07
yeah good on y'all so apparently she I
31:11
don't have the exact details but she she
31:14
liked her dad designs and helps make
31:16
shirts for disabled people oh she
31:20
actually has her own brand essentially
31:22
that's awesome yeah
31:23
just much luck to her at such a young
31:25
age she's got a bright future ahead of
31:27
her
31:27
yeah for real the entire family you guys
31:30
are killing it yeah keep doing it yeah
31:33
yeah so I think again the strongest
31:37
aspect is the cast hmm the story is fine
31:41
there weren't really too many surprises
31:44
yeah and they really only come really at
31:48
the end of the show I think the dialogue
31:50
could have been better but mm-hmm I
31:53
think like this is made for a family and
31:56
mine and not just adults I think I also
31:58
had to keep that in mind as well
31:59
story was a bit predictable or or the
32:02
dialogue I would they would talk and I'm
32:04
like chopping vegetables and I would
32:06
just finish the sentence sometimes
32:07
Connor I know what's coming
32:09
let's go to some things that we didn't
32:11
love so much and I'll start with the CGI
32:17
ranges from decent to bad and I think
32:21
the worst of it was in the first episode
32:24
I heard some people got turned off to
32:28
continue watching the show because of
32:30
that and I encourage you all to keep
32:32
going because it's it's never amazing
32:34
but I think it's it's passable like I
32:43
said the dialogue was a little bit hmm a
32:47
little bit dull for some of the adults
32:50
in the show specifically yeah to me it
32:54
felt like it was trying to be another
32:56
version of stranger things that's what
32:59
it felt like to me only for kids but
33:04
like I can I can understand that but
33:06
it's just like it felt like it was
33:07
trying to be like this kind of
33:10
mr. e with powers and things like that
33:14
and that's just how it felt to me but it
33:17
didn't know and it's very meta that you
33:20
met you mentioned the character pad he
33:25
his range somewhat stranger things
33:27
exactly
33:28
so had some weird like alternate
33:30
universe where Netflix exists mm-hmm but
33:35
they're not on it mmm
33:36
fascinating yeah there was a caricature
33:43
there was a character turn that I did
33:46
not like mm-hmm
33:48
and my other negative same with some
33:53
other sorry a my other negative they
33:59
don't really define what the kid can do
34:03
or his limits he's kind of like Jack
34:05
Jack from The Incredibles it's like
34:06
whatever the plot needs him to do he
34:08
just kind of does it but I I think that
34:12
makes sense though because he's still
34:13
trying to make sense of his his powers
34:16
he doesn't know what he can do you
34:18
understand and maybe once the whole
34:20
series is completed then it'll make
34:22
sense but for Jack Jack part of the fun
34:25
was just he's a baby he's just do
34:28
whatever he wants cuz a baby and for
34:30
this show it was never I never like I
34:33
was never upset but I just I kind of I
34:36
need to know what's going on with this
34:38
kid because it's like he has powers from
34:41
other
34:44
it's a sport talking about so I can
34:46
really go into it oh we should get to
34:49
the spoiler section yeah yeah I do want
34:52
to say one more thing on a positive
34:54
level
34:54
I really enjoyed we talked about just
34:56
the mother-son kind of aspects mm-hmm
35:00
there's a particular scene where is it
35:03
her her neighbor no not the neighbor and
35:05
Nicole who's played by Alicia Wainwright
35:09
has to decide to talk to her son about
35:12
racism and that was just heartbreaking
35:16
for me that made me that made me kind of
35:19
tear up yeah it's I really like the show
35:22
it's not perfect by any means but it
35:25
combines superhero stuff with things
35:28
that kids go through for real right and
35:31
what black kids go through for real yeah
35:35
did you ever watch Black Lightning no I
35:38
never did it's pretty good but it also
35:41
sometimes and oftentimes deals with
35:44
politics or social political matters I
35:46
think that black lighting has over this
35:49
show is music I didn't really like the
35:52
soundtrack in this show at all it felt
35:54
like they were trying to you know that's
35:59
why I say I felt like stranger things
36:00
stranger things used a lot of like music
36:03
from my era but it was good and we know
36:06
it this show it just felt like it was
36:07
kind of placed there and it was very
36:09
ocher like a lot of it wasn't even
36:11
licensed like you know there was um that
36:13
day no seed of song that everyone's been
36:15
using it's kind of wordplay at this
36:16
point it so has a place the lot of songs
36:19
were just kind of like I don't know this
36:20
music and it's not really good either
36:22
yeah except Alicia Keys no one yes of
36:24
course yeah that was good but that scene
36:28
where she did have to talk to him about
36:31
that like I think I was thinking about
36:33
that and I've actually been suggesting
36:36
Netflix shows to my students because you
36:38
know I teach adults and they're always
36:40
wondering you know how can I learn
36:42
English or you know how can I practice
36:45
listening and I always suggest them all
36:47
the Netflix shows i watch and i
36:49
suggested raising Dione and I told them
36:52
like so far for me it was okay but then
36:55
I watch this scene and I thought
36:57
like wow like I wonder if my students
37:00
are actually going to understand this is
37:03
a real conversation that black mothers
37:05
have to have with their son sometimes
37:07
yeah because you know you see it on TV
37:10
or you know on social media a lot of
37:13
parents of color and let's be real here
37:16
a lot of you know black parents they
37:18
have to have these conversations to
37:21
prepare their their children their sons
37:23
especially for a world that literally
37:26
hates them in a world that's trying to
37:29
get rid of them because of fear and
37:32
ignorance and it's just like this kid is
37:34
literally he's he's seven or eight years
37:37
old right and it's just you know like
37:39
when you think about that I don't know
37:41
how else to bring the point home to non
37:45
black folks of color or to you know non
37:48
people of color I know how what else to
37:50
do literally when you have to have this
37:53
kind of conversation it's you know with
37:55
a child
37:56
it's just what what else can we say
37:59
about our experience right so I really
38:01
hope that people watching this show can
38:03
understand or at least begin to
38:06
understand you know yeah sure it's a
38:07
show about Hillary superpowers but like
38:09
you said people really go through some
38:12
of this stuff everyday right so so
38:15
overall recommendations from both of us
38:17
yeah I'd recommend it alright let's get
38:21
to the spoilers spoiler alert
38:25
so again you haven't seen it turn off
38:28
now if you have if you haven't seen it
38:29
you don't care keep listening
38:35
three-two-one all right let's about pad
38:39
oh my god okay so I really loved Pat
38:43
like he was he was my ideal type
38:46
literally like if I was like of course
38:49
you know I'm single now what like the
38:52
first single yeah I'm single guys but
38:54
the person that I'm looking for is
38:56
literally pet literally like he was
39:00
nerdy he was you know a little awkward
39:02
he was warm hearted and whatnot like I I
39:06
saw him and I I thought why aren't they
39:09
together who Patton the
39:11
but wait a minute
39:16
okay so that was that was went that was
39:18
my first thought within the first few
39:20
episodes and then I saw more and more of
39:22
their relationship and then I thought I
39:24
can see why you know of course like she
39:27
has her husband and you know he's he's
39:30
my type but probably not her type that
39:33
kind of things talk about type she
39:35
married kill monger yeah but I got my
39:39
own problems to kill monger okay I mean
39:41
we all do but I'm saying that okay let's
39:44
take him out of it she married Michael B
39:46
Jordan so how is she gonna go from that
39:49
to Pat well I think that's probably just
39:53
my type like I'm into guys like Pat
39:56
again if there was a lady that like that
39:58
like whatever that's great but I'm
40:00
saying like for the character sake and
40:02
right and let's get to the spoiler here
40:04
how do you feel about Pat's aggression
40:06
towards tackle that is when I stopped
40:08
liking him yeah that is the moment as
40:10
soon as he started was that episode
40:12
seven eight something like that like
40:15
towards towards the end when you start
40:16
realizing what kind of person he was
40:18
automatically my attraction for him
40:20
turned off like that did you feel that
40:22
the kiss was okay or not okay no no I
40:26
mean I felt like it wasn't a real kiss
40:29
like it was kind of a I don't know like
40:32
not a stressful situation but just kind
40:34
of like I'm in the moment thing it
40:37
wasn't real it was just kind of like
40:39
we're both there we both have been in
40:41
each other's lives for a long time and
40:43
it just kind of felt like one of those
40:46
kisses but then of course you know
40:47
Nicole you know pulled back and and and
40:51
was like look you know I don't like you
40:53
that way and you know I was so happy
40:55
about that yeah because a I think Pat's
40:59
fine but I'm like yeah she obviously
41:01
likes me she obviously married Michael B
41:03
Jordan and she's like feeling like hot
41:05
chocolate at the dance studio I'm like
41:07
you are not her type so when he kissed I
41:10
was like okay hopefully they don't do
41:12
this romance thing and they didn't but
41:14
yeah as you said once she was like no I
41:15
was like I hope this thread is gone now
41:18
he could just be back to being a
41:20
supportive Godfather right but then when
41:23
he you know came to the studio to see
41:25
and saw her dancing with with hot
41:28
chocolate with hot hot chocolate I don't
41:32
know his name
41:33
so he's we call is it'll be called hot
41:34
chocolate I'm sorry I thought again he
41:36
saw her dancing I'm gonna go away the
41:39
thread is done mm-hmm but he stayed
41:41
there and pushed the issue right and I'm
41:44
like bruh
41:45
stay in your lane dad do you see who
41:48
she's talking to who she's getting into
41:50
it like you're not that person
41:52
whatsoever so when he brought up the
41:55
whole kind of male entitlement yeah I
41:58
was so disappointed I mean I know there
42:01
are a lot of nice guys and nerds who
42:03
kind of have that that mentality right
42:06
but for me given all that they've been
42:08
through at that point why would you I
42:10
was just
42:11
it felt forced even like even the kids
42:13
felt forced to me because prior to that
42:15
kiss there's nothing in the show that
42:17
had the camera leaguer on him looking
42:20
longingly at her right so it just kind
42:24
of came out of nowhere as you said it
42:25
was in the moment and so I hope that
42:26
they wouldn't really yeah she bet going
42:28
but they did and I was just that was to
42:30
me the biggest mark against the show
42:33
right kind of a forced romance yeah you
42:36
know it's kind of funny because we're in
42:38
Korea and as we know slubby white dudes
42:40
can get some pretty Korean ladies here
42:42
[Music]
42:44
but this ain't that kind of party in
42:47
this show I mean I look a little closer
42:48
to Michael B Jordan than him and I'm
42:50
definitely not gonna try and scoop up
42:52
his widow who is like this beautiful
42:55
model class lady
42:57
yeah I might that man I think for me I
43:00
just I just found everything that he
43:02
started saying outside the dance studio
43:04
problematic yeah legit like I do all
43:07
this stuff for you and and your son and
43:09
you're taking advantage of me and I'm
43:11
like okay well first of all who told you
43:16
you had to do all that stuff I didn't
43:18
see her like telling you you have to
43:20
like you had to risk your job to do this
43:22
yeah exactly that mm-hmm
43:24
don't thing that she actually was like
43:26
pick up Dione don't don't give him
43:28
yogurt or ice cream because he was a bad
43:31
boy I mean like nothing serious and it's
43:34
just like you know and then he's like oh
43:36
you you know you're I'm tired
43:38
taking advantage of me and that kind of
43:40
stuff and I just it made me so upset
43:43
because I felt that like I I think I
43:47
think I also I felt it from my personal
43:50
experiences with men and it's just like
43:53
dude I never asked you for anything
43:55
right why why are you trying to paint me
43:59
in this light and then she apologized
44:01
for and I was like girl don't apologize
44:03
to him like and I like of course that's
44:07
when I lost any attraction for him but I
44:09
think that that moment was important
44:11
because it started it opened up like his
44:14
real character to us and then also added
44:16
a level of another level of why he was
44:20
you know getting more and more
44:22
aggressive and why he went after her and
44:26
Dione in the end like we all know why he
44:29
went after Dione if you saw it but I
44:31
think it also added an extra layer of
44:34
you know you rejected me so I'm not
44:36
going to care what happens to you or
44:38
your son for me personally yeah I mean
44:41
at that layer is felt forced and I was
44:44
just I get kidded written better I know
44:47
and and the thing is I don't know what
44:49
is real like is it the purple man or the
44:52
purple man good man is it that radiation
44:55
that's affecting his mind to do that or
44:57
it was that really his character you
44:58
know like they never really explored
44:59
that either like I was I was hoping that
45:02
maybe they pull that out of pat and he's
45:05
like I was in to control myself I was
45:07
tripping they never really did anything
45:10
with that so I it was unfortunate
45:12
I was a waste how do you feel about him
45:13
being The Crooked Man the whole time
45:15
like he said I was I was disappointed I
45:18
definitely like I when I say Pat was my
45:21
ideal type like he was my gosh like
45:26
who's popular in Korea these days he's
45:28
the prototype you ever listen to the
45:30
Audrey mm song yeah if you won't put it
45:39
that way like he was my prototype that
45:42
was my guy and then this was just like a
45:44
fall from grace to me and I was like no
45:46
not Pat but then I thought all right
45:50
I made for a pretty interesting twist I
45:53
mean when he revealed himself I was like
45:54
oh yeah like he's that close to the
46:00
family and yeah and all this time I
46:03
definitely like why demise at that yeah
46:05
sure I mean it was fine I just feel like
46:09
the show was so decently paced that as
46:13
soon as kind of episode 7 or 8 rolled
46:15
around it just it just went really fast
46:17
and I feel like it could have benefited
46:19
from just better writing it it kind of
46:22
felt undercooked to me the conclusion
46:24
did you like the ending like how they
46:26
defeated him kind of I didn't really
46:29
like how they defeated him it just seems
46:31
so quick yes again undercoat to me at
46:34
the same time that hint to a new villain
46:36
you know that I I think I kind of felt
46:40
that in the middle when we saw you know
46:43
what was that woman's name the Invisible
46:46
Woman
46:46
Charlotte Charlotte thank you when we
46:49
saw Charlotte leave Braden behind at the
46:51
farm and then you know you you saw what
46:54
kind of powers that kid had like he
46:56
could read minds and whatnot don't you
46:57
leave me here in Charlotte as soon as
46:59
she left I was like that kid is gonna
47:01
raise some hell don't leave him and I I
47:05
was right I was right so I'm looking
47:09
forward to seeing bright and again in
47:11
season two I just I didn't realize that
47:14
that lady was I forgot she was in the
47:15
wire you ever watched the wire that is
47:18
also on my list my co-workers say is
47:20
really good you've never seen the wire
47:22
look I was young okay I was watching
47:24
like Cartoon Network and stuff when it
47:26
came out son you gotta watch the wire I
47:29
know the the education season think it's
47:32
like I think that's season four he's in
47:36
three thousand four I I cried bra it's
47:39
it's devastating but it's so good like
47:43
it it's so real you gotta watch it
47:46
anyway do you want to see a new season I
47:49
do I think I would yeah what what would
47:52
you like to see from the new season ah
47:55
let's see better dialogue yeah I want to
48:00
see the same children
48:03
ding and I want to see them kind of
48:06
growing like of course you know growing
48:10
but I want to see them grow similar to
48:13
how the stranger things kids grew
48:15
through each season like I want to see
48:17
them overcoming new obstacles in life as
48:21
both you know regular kids and both
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dealing with the superhuman you know
48:26
powers and things like that and this new
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villain whoever it will be I want to see
48:31
them handling that and I want to see
48:34
more of
48:35
Nicole getting used to or trying to help
48:39
her son control his powers and whatnot
48:41
cuz yeah now that Pat is going so I have
48:44
to kind of cover right for him it as far
48:46
as like the morality and because she was
48:48
often asking him in the comic books what
48:51
would they do and in this situation know
48:52
that he's gone he could be dead he could
48:55
not be Deb you don't know where he is
48:56
but so I have to kind of maybe it that
48:58
season she'll have to start making the
48:59
books like in the short film right
49:01
possible the one thing I did notice is
49:04
that did you notice that a lot of
49:06
characters as soon as they realized what
49:08
was happening they're like you had to go
49:09
through this alone for so long I
49:12
realized I heard that multiple times in
49:14
the show and I thought like wow like I
49:17
feel like that was kind of a reference
49:19
to single single parents everyone mean
49:22
that was an obvious reference to single
49:24
parents everywhere but I think she did
49:26
have more support than she thought but I
49:29
want to see her realize that she has
49:32
support I want to see more support for
49:34
her as a single parent and I want to see
49:37
like some positivity around you know
49:39
single parenting yes her neighbor was
49:44
really cool yeah I really like the kind
49:46
of black sisterhood but her actual
49:50
sister she was I feel like she was
49:54
unnecessarily aggressive right I mean
49:57
she came around in time but yeah I was
50:00
like why are you doing this and they
50:01
tried to have a little exposition seen
50:03
you quit medical school it was not my
50:05
fault in blah blah blah and I was there
50:07
for you the whole time and I'm like I
50:08
would like more showing and talking
50:10
alright you know cuz they're their
50:12
family but yeah for me I would like to
50:15
see you
50:17
Michael B Jordan his one of his big
50:18
breakouts was in Chronicle for 2012 oh
50:21
yeah it had this alien thing that wasn't
50:24
explained so I don't necessarily need
50:26
the meteor shower to be explained mm-hmm
50:29
it'd be nice but you don't have to you
50:31
just how about the radiation how it
50:32
affected people it's fine it's like
50:33
x-men you know you get radiated you get
50:35
powers who cares I would like to see
50:38
more of an a maybe a better
50:40
understanding of his limits because he
50:41
got sick because he killed the Fox but
50:43
he was doing some pretty crazy stuff I
50:45
mean like he was levitating like
50:46
multiple things at once
50:48
and it's that's a lot of concentration I
50:51
feel like his only limit is really
50:52
dealing with things that have the same
50:54
radiation as him but other things like
50:56
we don't know what his upper limit is
50:58
and I would like to explore that yeah
51:00
what his powers were the limits to them
51:02
he literally like shadow jutsu up a tree
51:06
right I mean just his first time
51:09
freaking out he like froze liquid and
51:11
cereal I mean that's such a high level
51:14
of concentration
51:15
it isn't just like I hold up a block he
51:17
was you know doing toy to toy cyclones
51:20
like it was nothing I mean like they're
51:22
kind of consistent about that so I would
51:25
like to clamp down on that so I know
51:27
what's going on what are the stakes
51:28
because it seemed like Jack Jack cannot
51:30
be killed right whatever never try to
51:31
catch that Jack it's like BAM he's
51:32
someone else where he's going or
51:34
whatever so
51:35
but his play for laughs this is like a
51:36
serious show so you know that's it yeah
51:44
let us know what we miss in the comments
51:46
let us know what you think of raising
51:47
Deon there are two there are two other
51:51
shows on Netflix that I want to see and
51:53
maybe we can do review am I sure say
51:55
smanos it's kind of a Mexican centered
51:58
kung fu animation I think the animators
52:01
are the people who did avatar last
52:03
airbender I could be wrong but it looks
52:05
like that kind of style and the other
52:07
one is Ling it's an Asian American
52:10
animation you know we talked about
52:12
blurred culture but I also want to talk
52:14
about other people of colors right shows
52:16
too so I'll definitely watch them and
52:17
we'll see if we can link up at a good
52:19
time and talk about them if possible
52:22
people out there what do you want us to
52:24
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52:26
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calm other content there like color
52:49
commentary if you ever heard of color
52:51
commentary yeah they're pretty funny
52:54
they did this Lion King review like what
52:56
they do is before they actually do
52:57
reviews they'll do like little skits
52:59
mm-hmm and they have video too so they
53:01
do little skits and they're they're
53:02
often really funny so yeah check them
53:04
out too and Thank You marquita for
53:06
coming where can they find you if you
53:08
would like to find me you can find me on
53:11
instagram @ ke e ta and i that spells
53:15
Kotani i'm also looking to this is like
53:19
a future thing can i like promote myself
53:22
yeah of course like a future far far is
53:26
future thing but i'm thinking about
53:28
starting a twitch stream for my video
53:30
games so if you guys have any advice for
53:34
me for streaming or any kind of the
53:37
games that you would like to see me
53:38
react to because i react a lot please
53:42
let me know come to my page slip into my
53:44
DMS anything's okay can't wait can i
53:48
react to your comment about not liking
53:50
shadow the Colossus oh my god here we go
53:53
yeah we gonna go there I mean how the
53:55
classes is my favorite ps2 game and I
53:58
even own the ps2 and the remake is great
54:01
I bought it for the ps3 and I bought it
54:03
for the ps4 and and and to read your
54:08
dislike it broke my heart broke my I'm
54:12
sorry I played like what maybe 15 20 no
54:17
I played like 20 minutes of it but like
54:18
20 minutes
54:19
it's that's it's but like it's just it
54:23
just didn't grab me I think it's because
54:25
of the the time it was from like it is a
54:28
remaster of the original piece but the
54:30
shoals are not great yeah it's the
54:33
controls were just a little too much for
54:36
me and like I try changing my settings a
54:39
lot like every few seconds but no it's
54:42
not for me
54:43
they're not great but they're not bad I
54:45
still adore that game looking and trying
54:47
to salvage this comments y'all let her
54:50
have it know how the classs is one of
54:53
the greatest games of its generation
54:55
in my defense I am just coming off from
54:58
playing horizon zero dawn okay yeah in
55:01
my defense it is more polished yeah than
55:03
that but it's a different it's it's
55:05
similar but it's different yeah you know
55:07
I'm a big Metroid fan and so that's kind
55:10
of the the isolation of of the wanderer
55:13
right wander of wanderer
55:15
I dig that you know there's no there's
55:19
no map it's just find it find the final
55:22
thing kill a thing how many have you
55:24
killed so far
55:25
I couldn't even kill the first one I
55:27
tried stabbing the ankle with the sword
55:29
you know you got to climb up and like
55:32
stabbed in the head
55:33
I tried he just shook me off every time
55:35
you stop getting so shook really cuz
55:40
there some there's some amazing designs
55:42
and amazing fights like I'll save the
55:44
game just to be able to go back and like
55:46
there's one that flies and that's it's
55:48
so great and there's a fair the one the
55:52
one that flies and the third one is like
55:54
the tallest one and it's like it's
55:56
compared to the first one you fight it's
55:58
like five times six time it's huge it's
56:02
so big there's so many cool designs
56:04
there's a horse I mean I really hope
56:07
that you can get into it later I'll try
56:09
it anyway I could be here all day time
56:11
at that game and others we're going to
56:14
sign off by all peace y'all