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Star Wars Movies Ranked Including Rise of Skywalker

All 11 of the Star Wars Movies Ranked Including the latest Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker. In the last episode of the year, BlerdUp breaks down the final chapter in the Skywalker Saga! Brendon and Mel dig into how they feel about the use of POC characters in the new trilogy.


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long have I waited for my podcast
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partner to come to the studio and now
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I'm sorry I'm here already
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blurt up folks I'm Brendon and this is
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Mel hi welcome to the show where we talk
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about nerd culture from Abby POV a black
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POV we thought we can squeeze in another
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show before the new year but we managed
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to see the rise of Skywalker ahead of
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its South Korean release date so we're
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going to review and discuss spoilers
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mm-hmm we're going to also rank all 11
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Star Wars films mm-hmm before we get
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haters mean you're doing some right I
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guess we're also on blur calm a lovely
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site full of nerdy content from a black
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cultural lens I actually published an
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article there yesterday titled Star Wars
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failed its POC characters it's also on
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medium if that's your preferred way to
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read it's been pretty well received so
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far and we'll explore a bit of that
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content in our spoiler review look we'll
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check it out okay let's get to it so
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we're gonna first give a very brief
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summary of our overall thoughts because
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everyone's seen this by now well
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everybody except for the people we know
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in Korea but sure okay yeah most of them
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yeah most of them okay yeah we will do
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that yeah let's start with the good you
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go first
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I don't know that I could even really
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break this down into good bad ok
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whatever for me it was fine it wasn't it
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wasn't good it wasn't bad I really okay
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so here's the thing
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I feel like Star Wars critiques are the
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best and worst thing about the nerd
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community because it's gots the
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mythology and the ranking of Star Wars
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in everybody's mind is so big that
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everybody does these really meticulous
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critiques and we were never able as a
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community to step away and say it was
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okay it doesn't really but it doesn't
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really deserve a lot of these really
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deep drawn critiques so I have I tend to
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kind of step away from Star Wars
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critiques so this is actually really
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gonna be a challenging podcast for me
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because 90% of it I'm just like it was
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fine it was fine that was how I felt
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watching the movie okay it wasn't as
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awful as I thought it would be listening
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to you talk about it but it wasn't good
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either
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it was just what it was it was mediocre
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it was entirely mediocre there so the
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good I don't know okay it's fine it's
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fine for me i think the good as we
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expect from a Star Wars movie the
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visuals and sound are great thus if
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Planet X goal is especially striking ya
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know you're not keep going
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I think the acting particularly Daisy
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Ridley and Adam driver were good like no
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one is bad in this movie but the film
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really rest on their shoulders mmm true
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like no matter though the plot choices
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that we weren't satisfied with mean they
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did their best to sell it right the
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actors do do a good job with what
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they've got yeah you can certainly see
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the conflict on their faces there right
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there no spoilers about this space opera
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you know the good guys are going to win
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of course they're gonna beat Thanos you
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know I'm saying but the ending with the
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friends reuniting to embrace each other
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they got to me a little bit yeah I mean
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I will say this is the first of the new
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trilogy that I felt like there were
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actually relationships between the
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character with one glaring exception
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which I'm sure we'll get to the spoilers
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I felt if they're actually more
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believable relationships with the
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characters I think I might have said on
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a previous show when we were talking
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about the Star Wars trailer that one of
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the problems with the characters in the
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new trilogy is that you don't like in
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the in the first tril of the original
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trilogy and the prequels you do feel
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like when they do those big time skips
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in between movies that there's been
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stuff happening
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in the interim that has changed the
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relationships between the characters but
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you didn't really get that between these
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two most recent movies and then with
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this one you finally get that sense like
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you're like okay their friendship has
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changed their relationships have changed
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and that's okay
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I mean but even with the original
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trilogy this had more time together
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right you are chilling and the Falcon
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with obi-wan learning about the force
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right as well as themselves there's so
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much of that when han and Leia get
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trapped in that that monster as they
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were escaping the Empire and they had
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there's a lot more of them and I really
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felt hmm in his new trilogy yeah I to me
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I really didn't feel connection there's
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a little more in this movie but I redid
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until that connection throughout this
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this trilogy this movie but just just on
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the strength of their acting and that
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embrace yeah was enough mmm-hmm that's
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all the good I have okay like I said it
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was fine like I mean I it was Pikachu
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detective Pikachu of Star Wars movies it
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wasn't awful but I mean there's nothing
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here that was really like I said with
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one glaring exception which I'm sure
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we'll get to in the spoilers there was
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just nothing there to really make me
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want to delve like delve deeply into it
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I mean there are much better Star Wars
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properties to really think deeply and
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analyze this was not a high on the list
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it was just very middle-of-the-road sure
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I'm gonna get to the battle quick this
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movie felt to me extremely rushed and
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disjointed from the last Jedi you've
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probably already heard this a lot but
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there were a number of plants that
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deserved more time there were events
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that happened that feel unearned and
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there's little emotional payoff
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throughout like half of this movie is
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exposition mmm-hmm this movie was
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co-written by Chris Terrio who wrote
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Batman vs Superman Man of Steel and
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Justice League they were all bad to
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mediocre films yeah yeah I agree with
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with you most of the way I think Man of
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Steel is better than people give it
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actually watched it again the other
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night I think it's not bad it's better
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written than people give it credit for
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it did what tanked mana steel actually I
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think of some of the performances and
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the visual look of it in a lot of ways
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it made it way too dark for no reason
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but if you if that had been in the hand
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of a different director and maybe with
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some different actors I think it would
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have been different but even so that
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just brings up the point that I'm
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constantly making it must be so great to
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be a C student and just do this well and
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get like these kinds of jobs right I
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really wish that we well I mean we're
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getting there slowly but you know I
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really wish that we had the ability to
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be that mediocre and still do
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billion-dollar blockbusters like this I
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mean come on true who looked at him and
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said and to be fair well there's a lot
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going into this but ultimately I think
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what I think your point about it being
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rushed is very true but I also feel like
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in this movie just watching it it was
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very clear that JJ Abrams was very much
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like the last Jedi was not the middle of
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the trilogy you were looking for like he
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was kind of hand waving it for us he
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wasn't really trying to he really wasn't
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paying any attention to anything that
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happened in that movie I got a better
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metaphor and I made it mean about it you
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saw it I made a mean with Dave
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Chappelle's Rick James on Charlie
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Murphy's couch and Rick James as JJ
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Abrams in the last night's the couch and
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he's just like yo movie nigga
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because the last Jedi because JJ Abrams
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did the first one right I mean he did
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the last one for whatever reason he
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didn't do the middle one hmm and because
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he didn't I think he probably feels some
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type of way about it when it's trying to
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bring his his vision back did he go do
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that Star Trek movies like the third
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right yeah so he did and I don't know
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the whole story behind that but it was
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clearly a cadet I he's trying to kind of
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retro actively push it out of the
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universe because it oh there's a lot of
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ways which I'm sure we'll get to in
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which the last Jedi could not have
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existed and this movie still could have
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happened they should have added another
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inch to the text at the beginning and
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just pretended the last Jedi didn't
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exist I felt like that's what he was
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doing with this movie yeah and that's
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the problem which was when my friends
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and fan of the show Nick Hart said it
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best when he he messaged me he said
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there's there was no road map
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on how to develop these stories
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absolutely rudderless no Kevin Feige no
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Dave Filoni these movies continue to
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remind me why the Clone Wars and rebels
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are so superior because they take their
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time to tell their stories and establish
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characters well they clearly have a
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story in mind I mean I've only watched a
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little bit of the Star Wars shows but
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you can tell that there's an you're
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right he's he's right there's no
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direction there's no overarching story
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there's no end game in mind for these
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and there never was so you can't have
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nine movies and not know what the
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overarching story and theme is cuz they
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clearly didn't yeah my last little
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quibble before we get to spoilers is I
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found the fights less imaginative or
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impressive than other movies Adam driver
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and Daisy Ridley don't seem to be very
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physical actors compared to Hayden
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Christensen or you McGregor and Ray Park
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very true
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at least the directors aren't giving
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them much to do the fight on the ruins
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of a Death Star that's in the trailer
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that's blown that surrounded by water
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was probably the best it had the most
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emotional stakes for me dating fight was
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in your words fine
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yeah but too brief yeah Adam driver did
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better than I thought he would yeah
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Daisy Ridley was kind of phoning it in
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like they it's a good thing for her that
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we have really good effects I think but
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you do see a lot there's a lot of fights
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in this where I'm like really come on
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now this isn't that doesn't work like
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you get like a really big person
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fighting a really small person or like
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in just ways that don't make physical
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sense and it's like an only hand wave
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things way with the force so much a lot
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of hand waving yeah there were a lot of
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just fight scenes that didn't that were
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that didn't seem visually plausible but
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they were really doing their best to
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sell it to you I think whoever did the
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fight choreography and that particular
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part of the filmmaking kind of dropped
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the ball because they were trying to be
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magic with it yeah well they are magic
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right yeah they are but you know we'll
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get to even magic has rules okay
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let me just close down before we get to
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this as for this here so for me I know
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you say he was fine but for me as
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someone who has going to put this stuff
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whose you know read the books and bought
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games and watched all the shows this is
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to me a sad into in this trilogy and a
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over 40 year old story it solidified to
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me that these new movies are are
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collectively worse than the prequels in
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terms of vision like I have more respect
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for the prequels now because of this
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movie having so many cooks in the
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kitchen really hurt where this franchise
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could have gone some of the choices in
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this movie made some of the most
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important scenes implied choices in
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previous films almost irrelevant it also
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makes choices and its own movie
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irrelevant people cheered when JJ Abrams
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returned but seeing what Ryan Johnson
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set up in the last I I I kind of
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wish he would have stayed and finished
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what he started
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I don't last Jedi was awful but I mean I
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think that they should have respected
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what he did more and like actually
12:15
created a through story that worked with
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what he did in the second movie yeah I
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still think last today has problems well
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just like that because I have no respect
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for it
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compared to this movie hmm okay I think
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yeah I get the respect thing but still
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just as far as pure watch ability I
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think this movie was much more which is
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terrible to say cuz movie was borderline
12:38
unwatchable I was bored to death and
12:40
that's unusual because it's Star Wars
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I shouldn't be bored during a Star Wars
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movie I've sat through so many Star Wars
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movies and I love Star Wars also but
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this movie was I was I had to really
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focus mmm right I it wasn't it wasn't
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necessarily very enjoyable as far as
12:55
watch ability but it was still more
12:57
watchable for me than the last Jedi okay
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yeah interesting mm-hmm all right I also
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want to know before we move on
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apparently this movie has the worst
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critical reviews since the Phantom
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Menace interesting yeah yeah but again
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Star Wars is the best and worst thing
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about the nerd universe hmm very true
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forget to suppose I want to just briefly
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the box office numbers the force awakens
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opening weekend was around 250 million
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dollars is about 247 million dollars and
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it ended worldwide with two point zero
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six billion dollars very impressive no
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one's ever gonna catch up to that blast
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should I
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the last shot is opening weekend was two
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hundred and twenty million and ended
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with 1.3 billion dollars hmm half yeah
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but still not bad oh it didn't it wasn't
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a bomb by any means no it's not going to
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be at Star Wars I mean that's the thing
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there's that safety net that that's C
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students safety net well this is where
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it gets interesting because the rise of
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Skywalker opened to a hundred and
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seventy five million dollars
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domestically mmm-hmm which is wait a
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minute say that again
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one hundred and seventy five million
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dollars domestically what was its budget
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oh I'm sure it was probably in the 250
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range you know how much movies are yeah
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this is not a bomb though mmm cuz
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obviously worldwide I think it'd yeah it
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was at like 450 by that by the weekend
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right and so I mean it's not gonna be a
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bomb it's gonna make over okay it's
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gonna hit a boondoggle
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right but it's still I think it's gonna
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come out lower than the other two
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possibly probably but I like that you
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said we're starting to see the cracks
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here mm-hm and I think it's wise for a
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dizzy to take a break
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mmm focus on the show is really
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developed their characters and maybe
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come at this five or so years down the
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road with a real solid vision but you
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know here's the thing how Star Wars ever
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really been about that Star Wars isn't
15:02
like a Marvel or a DC where there's been
15:04
like a cohesive attempt at solid unified
15:07
world building ever
15:08
I mean Star Wars has always been kind of
15:09
amorphous in that way we were talking
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about this a little bit the other day
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where you know it kind of was a
15:16
free-for-all for a long time where
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people were writing novels that you know
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there's this whole can't what's can and
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what's not Canon
15:21
there were graphic novels there were all
15:22
of these things that people were
15:24
contributing to the Star Wars universe
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but I don't know I think that's part of
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the beauty of it but
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at the same time maybe it is time to
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just let star wars just turn it loose
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and let everybody contribute things to
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it because you're think you're ever
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gonna be able to get a cohesive vision
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out of it at this point well I don't
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know I think the fact that Disney has
15:48
bought it while that free-for-all was
15:50
still kind of happening I think now that
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they've realized that critically and
15:57
perhaps seeing this drop with rise of
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Skywalker even financially this is not
16:04
sustainable so taking that break to kind
16:06
of regroup because they're releasing
16:08
comic books as well they're releasing
16:09
novels as well and under their brand now
16:11
they're I mean they are letting other
16:13
people do this but maybe it's time for
16:14
them to take a break
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really get some oversight over
16:19
everything and mainly right the ship so
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I mean I don't know yeah I mean but I
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think just I don't know I guess I just
16:26
feel like the Star Wars universe has
16:27
always been very open I mean it is an
16:31
entire universe I mean there were whole
16:32
books that were just short stories about
16:34
a character you saw once in a bar and
16:36
Mos Eisley you know for example but and
16:39
I don't know maybe it's time to let it
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be really a universe in that sense and
16:42
just let it expand indefinitely with a
16:44
lot of different a lot of different ways
16:46
and stop focusing on movies because I
16:48
don't know how you go forward from here
16:50
without them being a letdown to some
16:52
extent also because I think that these
16:54
this last trilogy has played so heavily
16:56
off of people's nostalgia for the
16:58
original trilogy and people's desire for
17:01
something better after the prequels that
17:03
I don't that I feel like generationally
17:07
the shift is going to be so huge that
17:09
people will be on to something very
17:10
unlike Star Wars by the time they
17:12
actually sort all of this out that's a
17:15
good point
17:15
yeah very good point I mean again maybe
17:19
the TV shows are the way to go maybe
17:21
yeah for now
17:22
I mean just let people discover new
17:24
things within the universe perhaps yeah
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feel like that would be the most
17:29
creative way to go forward sure but I
17:32
don't know anyway so like I said like I
17:34
said this movie is on pace so he'd hit a
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billion dollars it will be come Disney's
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seventh billion dollar movie this year
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you know I'm gonna ask us I don't know
17:46
these things what are the other six you
17:47
can guess
17:48
well because Disney owns everything
17:49
that's the problem list yeah okay
17:51
endgame I'm sure yes
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Oh frozen - probably what else has been
17:57
out that's under the Disney Aegis now Oh
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Lion King yes boo right
18:04
spider-man yes awesome home that's for
18:07
I'm just trying to think cuz Disney owns
18:10
everything like I could literally say
18:12
anything that was famous and it would be
18:13
under that that particular what else is
18:16
a story but no toy stores Pixar isn't
18:19
it's not Disney they don't own that yet
18:21
thank god the overlords have not taken
18:23
over everything hmm
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what are the other two what are the
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other two what else has come out this
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year
18:29
if I tell you're gonna get upset I'm not
18:32
gonna get up sex I really don't know so
18:34
tell me Captain Marvel I forgot about
18:38
that actually in Aladdin oh I forgot
18:41
about that I was thinking Aladdin but
18:42
for some reason in my head Aladdin came
18:44
out last year I'm already in 2020 okay
18:46
but you know out of those set out of
18:49
these seven movies there's only one that
18:51
I really loved didn't want to watch
18:52
again right that's interesting
18:55
see this is the problem when you have
18:57
evil overlords everything becomes kind
18:58
of mushy you've got to appeal to too
19:00
many people I think that there's
19:01
definitely a beauty and being nice
19:02
you're letting Nisha's develop anyway
19:04
let's get to the spoilers yes again I'm
19:07
sure everyone's have seen this film and
19:09
if you haven't come listen to it later
19:12
yeah three two one let's go just beat by
19:16
beat and get it here we gotta get into
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it yeah I get out the gate Palpatine is
19:22
in the opening title card without really
19:24
any context he's just sending Trump
19:27
tweets out everyone basically yeah I'm
19:29
here exactly yeah Kyle just shows up at
19:32
dudes crib yeah
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Palpatine just starts talking without
19:34
any explanation and why would anybody
19:37
know who he is at this point
19:38
I mean kylo knows I mean he's he's he's
19:42
been worshipping Vader everybody else
19:45
there is a point later where somebody
19:46
says yeah these guys sound crazy they
19:48
sound like weird druids and whatnot in
19:50
the universe woods but yeah that was
19:55
just what is he doing here why are we
19:56
acting like this isn't a big deal yeah I
19:58
just love you know he's like how are you
20:00
live
20:01
like the dark side is a path to many
20:03
abilities some consider to be unnatural
20:05
it's like the movies almost trying to do
20:08
a Jedi mind trick on us oh yeah you need
20:11
to worry about this exactly and then
20:12
later marry The Hobbit has that one that
20:14
one line right he's a clone like maybe
20:17
okay but hold on I'm sure he's not a
20:19
clone because who clones themself and
20:21
comes back as a wrinkly and decrepit old
20:24
man right like really you just cloned
20:26
yourself seventy-nine thousand years old
20:28
right now we know why Snoke was such a
20:31
mystery he was made by the Emperor but
20:33
also what the hell does that mean right
20:35
exactly and why was he important if he
20:37
was made why would you go to all the
20:39
trouble of making a different guy to be
20:41
your stalking horse when you are a
20:43
Palpatine just be Palpatine or just make
20:45
a clone yourself if kylo so powerful
20:48
just clone work kylos they're young and
20:49
younger and I mean just and if Palpatine
20:54
had these kind of four strings on Snoke
20:57
as a puppet mm-hmm why couldn't Luke
21:00
Leia or Yoda detect not exactly and also
21:05
let's be real basically this set up the
21:09
movie to be mediocre from the jump
21:11
because this is a completely toothless
21:13
villain oh it's Palpatine I guess he's
21:16
gonna get thrown over a bridge again
21:17
like we really don't know anything we
21:19
just gonna use fighting again exec
21:21
himself up exactly we don't know
21:23
anything about him but at the same time
21:25
we know everything about him that's the
21:27
worst villain development in the
21:28
universe true literally Palpatine was
21:31
hidden from the Jedi Council because he
21:34
didn't use his powers around them in
21:37
contrast his movie apparently he's using
21:39
his stuff across light-years and no
21:42
one's picking this up but there aren't
21:44
really any Jedi I mean there's ways to
21:47
justify that who cares that's the
21:50
problem right this movie says who cares
21:52
yeah because which is why I'm very much
21:54
like it was fine that was said and we
21:57
were just acts accepted and one or two
22:00
things maybe but there was a lot and
22:03
we'll get into that more so let's cut to
22:06
rey levitating the rocks like she's in
22:08
avatar mode against fire lord ozai
22:12
and let us somehow training her because
22:14
Leia totally knows what this is my first
22:17
racket against the feminist narrative of
22:19
this movie and the betrayal of Rey I've
22:21
never seen any other male Jedi do what
22:25
she has done in such a short amount of
22:27
time Luke wasn't anywhere near this
22:29
powerful before he confronted Vader but
22:32
raised all like I have to earn his
22:35
lightsaber our people saying that this
22:37
is a feminist narrative because if it is
22:40
there's a lot of flaws with that because
22:41
Rey is completely a MarySue she's a very
22:43
an interesting character she just sort
22:45
of hangs around in districts we're gonna
22:48
I'm gonna go down a list people actually
22:50
saying that it's a feminist narrative
22:52
I'm really shocked if they if that's the
22:53
case yeah Wow okay i yeah like I said I
22:58
kind of I see Star Wars and I just sort
23:01
of smell armpits and step away on the
23:02
Internet I do I just there's just not
23:04
anything interesting and anybody's
23:06
critique it's so hard to find good stuff
23:07
which is why I'm like I'm really working
23:09
hard to make sure that we're being
23:10
interesting here yeah it is again raised
23:14
better than Luke but she has to earn his
23:17
stuff the man who failed his greatest
23:19
pupil and helped start the problems in
23:21
this trilogy like shouldn't the goal of
23:24
a Jedi to make her own lightsaber the
23:27
visual dictionary says that she learned
23:29
how to rebuild Anakin's lightsaber
23:32
through the Jedi texts but wouldn't have
23:34
been nice to learn that in the movie
23:37
along with maybe her learning how to
23:40
heal things for reasons hmm and as you
23:44
said maybe she could use the force to
23:45
develop a personality she's completely
23:48
well I mean what does she do she's she's
23:51
interesting but they're everything about
23:52
her I see this is why I am really
23:54
annoyed if this is meant to be a ferret
23:56
feminist narrative it's the same problem
23:57
as Captain Marvel everything about her
23:59
is told to us by somebody else or is
24:02
connected to somebody else that's not
24:04
okay ABB's I completely agree with you
24:07
and yeah the the Leia being her master
24:11
that's not a big deal for me I mean it
24:13
would be nice to have learned more about
24:15
Leia's training and abilities but
24:19
because Luke's gone I mean leah has
24:22
something she could she could give some
24:23
sort of advice that's not a big deal
24:25
yeah org and character should have fossa
24:27
Flay is going to be raised trainer she
24:29
needs to not know what she's doing I
24:30
mean did to see that or she needs to be
24:32
figuring out as she goes along and we
24:33
need to see that but instead we have her
24:35
doing this Gaia the Earth Mother thing
24:37
with her extremely Photoshop lens flared
24:40
face like just the force the force is
24:44
what we're doing the forces everything
24:46
like how do you know this yeah
24:50
again magic is magic but magic has rules
24:54
I want to go into personna which is that
24:56
kind of Middle Eastern planet that that
25:00
they met Landa one yeah that was one my
25:04
favorite parts the movie and for me the
25:07
funniest moment was when Threepio was
25:08
explaining the culture and everyone just
25:10
stops and starts looking at him and then
25:12
he turns to let's see what they're
25:14
looking at yeah I I have to be honest
25:17
there are times when I really relate to
25:19
c-3po yeah that was that was cool me
25:24
those people were cute I liked them
25:25
actually trying to do some growth
25:27
learning with culture it's not just like
25:29
every play it's like a shithole like yes
25:33
I see your attention British people yeah
25:36
yeah yeah and you know that pole
25:38
situation in personna the one thing I
25:40
liked about that also is that that's
25:42
where you where I started to think okay
25:44
so I get that there's relationships
25:45
between these people now there's been
25:47
stuff going on behind the scenes so now
25:49
they're all know that c-3po is annoying
25:50
where before they don't even really
25:51
interact with him okay we kind of start
25:53
to there's more relationship building
25:57
there's more evidence of relationship
25:59
build yeah by the time we get there and
26:01
I quite like that yeah mm-hmm Lando I
26:04
like Lando I told everyone and the was
26:07
at the previous show that I think Lando
26:08
is probably the second coolest black
26:11
fictional character on in fiction on
26:13
screen at least yeah but if they're
26:16
tracking a Sith assess and why is this
26:17
old man there yeah he just sort of piped
26:20
in and was like hello hello hello
26:22
give Leah my love like what does anybody
26:26
know you're still alive right like are
26:29
we supposed to be surprised to see you
26:30
are they supposed to be surprised to see
26:32
you not hear what Chewie is just like oh
26:34
it's you again like what right like wait
26:37
wait a minute like dudes not even like
26:39
where's hon oh he'd even ask about no
26:43
Hans dead Wow wait wait hold on and
26:49
loose at least Luke asked about it in
26:51
the last movie how do you turn the black
26:54
man who's not a Jedi or have any force
26:55
sensitivity into the magical Negro he
26:57
just shows up to be like look at me look
26:59
at this and then he disappears in a puff
27:01
of smoke like leaving the sense of Colt
27:04
45 and cools behind like oh the hot
27:12
thing I had even catched that great
27:14
great cat I mean that was his best
27:16
friend
27:17
yeah I mean just this old man being
27:20
there like doesn't the resistance have
27:21
special forces for this hey guys and
27:24
doesn't even know that Luke's dead does
27:27
he know anything like he'd there's no he
27:30
doesn't say or do anything again this is
27:32
the bad writing because they're resting
27:34
on their laurels the same way they do
27:35
with Palpatine we know everything about
27:37
we know everything about Lando but we
27:39
also know nothing about Lando yeah our
27:41
whole response to Lando being in this is
27:43
based on his presence in previous movies
27:45
I could imagine being a kid and watching
27:47
this movie as my first Star Wars movie
27:48
ever and being like why is he important
27:50
yeah like there's no reason for him to
27:52
be there there's no there's no evidence
27:56
of his connection to the previous movies
27:57
there's no evidence of his connection to
27:59
the current story but he's just he's the
28:03
Bagger Vance of Star Wars for no reason
28:06
like what's he doing there did you think
28:08
she was dead when a ray blasted that
28:11
ship
28:11
no only because everybody was being way
28:14
too hysterical about it and then the
28:16
next scene was like let's fly like what
28:18
wait there's no like memorial like
28:20
you're not gonna memorialize him he must
28:22
be alive somewhere
28:23
I don't know how okay that whole scene
28:25
though that was so hysterical and over
28:28
the top John boyega oh and he did that
28:32
he's just started like shrieking all of
28:34
a sudden you know just like geek he got
28:37
way over the top with it and yeah I just
28:41
everybody was just screeching at the top
28:43
of their lungs and I was like this is
28:45
you guys are working real hard to make
28:47
this script to sell this script to me
28:49
but just from the way you're acting and
28:51
the fact that the next scene has
28:53
no emotional residence at all potiki oh
28:55
exactly he was like niggas get shot
28:57
every devi i know basically he was like
28:59
I don't gotta run the vacuum no more
29:01
[Laughter]
29:05
yeah yeah yeah it wouldn't happen when
29:09
it happened I was a bit numb I was like
29:11
wow this is really sudden and then I
29:14
thought it was kind of funny when they
29:16
put their hands in for Chewie reminded
29:17
me of gern's the galaxy I was like okay
29:20
we're all standing ships right but then
29:25
of course there was another transport I
29:27
mean just how lazy writing yeah cuz I
29:31
did get mad for a second like they're
29:33
just gonna kill Chewie like that right
29:34
right like the like the only remaining
29:36
og from the original trilogy he just
29:39
blows up out of nowhere like first of
29:41
all how they Kidman it's like that key
29:43
and peele sketch where they're being
29:45
auctioned off of slaves and they see
29:46
this really big dunno like how did they
29:48
catch him that's what I was like how
29:49
they catch chewy like Poe and should we
29:51
stand together and they take Chewie I
29:53
mean they have blasters I don't know I
29:55
guess yeah yeah I think ray should have
30:00
really hurt or killed someone I mean
30:02
give us some real depth you know and you
30:04
know if she's that sensitive in the
30:06
force and Finn is also growing in that
30:09
way too and and could feel her death why
30:12
couldn't they feel it for him and not
30:13
feel he not dead or on the other ship
30:16
like he just again just lazy right right
30:18
and what I didn't catch also is how did
30:21
they know he wasn't dead later cuz they
30:23
never really explained that they're just
30:25
like let's go get Chewie and I'm like
30:26
how did you know he's not dead I missed
30:28
that I must have been like I must have
30:31
gotten bored and sort of scrolling on my
30:32
phone or something and missed it and
30:34
didn't run it back you know what I
30:37
forget - yeah I but I I almost I know
30:41
they said something about okay but I I
30:43
don't remember what yeah what happened
30:44
because I mean the next time you see
30:46
Chewie he's being imprisoned and then
30:47
the next time you see him he's being
30:48
rescued and I I don't remember where
30:52
they establish that they're going that
30:54
they know he's there and they're going
30:55
to rescue him which brings up another
30:57
criticism this is a mighty small
30:58
universe like everything is five minutes
31:02
away from everything else and people
31:04
just coincidentally are like in the same
31:06
neighborhood all the time
31:07
yeah like magically this thing is on end
31:09
or just really this is a galaxy we're
31:13
talking about here this is a whole
31:15
entire galaxy galaxies are large and
31:17
have many planets but we seem to kind of
31:19
go to the same five places and everybody
31:21
seems to sort of only know those same
31:23
five places and even not I mean I don't
31:26
want to get into the magic of Lightspeed
31:28
and how really it should take longer
31:31
time to get to places but it does let's
31:32
just I mean that I can hand wave just
31:34
fine because I mean the force okay magic
31:36
is magic and has rules but one of the
31:38
rules could be okay we it enables
31:39
extremely fast time travel like dune or
31:41
something space travel like dude or
31:43
something but they're not using the
31:44
Foresters using science in it yeah but
31:46
I'd still be able to I mean the what in
31:49
Star Wars is really science honestly
31:51
nobody saying here's the force and
31:56
saying this is light speed right we know
31:59
what that constant is okay that's fair
32:01
enough
32:02
that's firmly positioned so that's kind
32:05
of okay but even so hand waving the
32:09
light speed think for a second it's
32:10
still a galaxy right but everybody is in
32:13
the same neighborhood like everybody's
32:15
on the same block right and just
32:17
something crazy about that yeah like
32:18
they're all like running into each other
32:20
at the convenience store on a Saturday
32:21
night like a general Hux hate you to buy
32:23
like what I want to get to how they
32:29
enter the Star Destroyer hangar to save
32:32
Chewie
32:32
hmm are there no cameras when they do
32:35
start unit the place I thought that too
32:37
like there's no CCTV in the whole known
32:39
galaxy I really had to like stop and
32:41
think it through like is there a reason
32:42
that they don't have cameras because
32:44
they made it a point to shoot cameras
32:45
later on the ship that's what God makes
32:47
at first I was like okay so maybe it's
32:50
because this is like the 1970s version
32:52
of the future and they're still like
32:53
CCTV wasn't a thing then so they haven't
32:55
gone back and retrofitted it in and that
32:57
makes a lot of sense but wait no there's
32:58
cameras now what well let's I want to go
33:01
back to a new hope cuz hotland
33:02
when Han and Luke got taken aboard the
33:07
the Star Destroyer they tricked the
33:10
stormtroopers into boarding the Falcon
33:11
so they can jump them and take the
33:12
uniforms so they could be undetected
33:14
right um but in this film they had
33:16
actual access to get into the Star
33:19
Destroyer
33:20
compared to Han and Luke getting
33:22
captured by the tractor beam you had
33:24
kind of the advantage on them you could
33:26
have thought them less had been done
33:27
what you did but you chose not yeah and
33:29
then you just started shaking up the
33:30
place and again three folks shooting in
33:33
an open hangar against surrounded by
33:35
stormtroopers again how does that work
33:37
me I know they can't shoot but I just
33:38
found that crazy you're not like there's
33:40
no way you could miss right and there's
33:43
there's several of you and these dudes I
33:46
mean the stormtroopers are wearing body
33:47
armor sure we just walking around in his
33:49
carpet like right just shoot me yeah so
33:56
but yeah that was just again just weird
33:58
lazy writing and then Pope gets shot in
34:01
the arm yeah and that never becomes a
34:03
thing later who cares I always wondered
34:06
do the blasters and Star Wars have like
34:09
settings like the blasters in Star Trek
34:10
because you can see like burning red
34:12
holes and people when they get shot but
34:14
then the next scene they're walking
34:15
around like no big deal
34:16
back tank I guess yeah back to its
34:19
powerful I suppose yeah you know it's
34:23
still still on on that scene if kylo
34:25
still good at finding Rey why didn't he
34:26
know that she was on his ship yeah that
34:29
was weird like he knew everything about
34:30
her except that side note how can kylo
34:34
still force time ray if she cut him out
34:36
in the last movie yeah that was strange
34:39
too now I will say visually that seems
34:41
very interesting and I am looking
34:43
forward to seeing this in a proper
34:44
theater because I did there were things
34:47
I saw in this someone I'm like I'd like
34:48
to see that on like a big screen like 3d
34:50
with a big sound and everything but and
34:52
I thought that that seemed looked really
34:54
interesting the way that they they did
34:56
the interplay of them being in two
34:57
different places but magic is magic but
35:00
magic has rules the rules didn't make
35:03
any sense in this part not at all
35:04
it just looked nice yeah the whole the
35:06
berries from ki Jimmy spilled out on the
35:10
Death Star
35:11
like why like do they create some kind
35:13
of force bubble that opens wormholes or
35:16
Kyla took the necklace from Ray on that
35:19
Posada planet but it's like it's like
35:21
another Jedi Mind like it's good
35:23
it's cool don't worry about it it just
35:24
looks cool which I mean it does and the
35:27
thing is there it's just lazy writing
35:28
because they could have set that up and
35:31
made it much more impactful than just a
35:33
cool looking thing
35:34
because there are I guess again
35:35
precedence you could if they had gone to
35:38
the if they had gone to the trouble of
35:40
developing the story and developing the
35:42
characters and setting up the
35:44
developments in the magic system you
35:46
could that totally could have worked but
35:48
the way that they did it they just sort
35:49
of sprung it on you visually without any
35:51
explanation and Star Wars that's kind of
35:53
Star Wars brand I mean they show you a
35:55
lot of weird stuff and then that's why
35:56
people go and write entire books about
35:58
one scene hmm years later but it doesn't
36:02
work when it's this big of a set piece
36:04
and has this much impact on the plot yes
36:06
and that's that's been the problem
36:09
honestly since the beginning mmm
36:12
I mean I don't want to rehash and really
36:14
litigate the old movies but the fact
36:16
that even Rey could fight and beat kylo
36:21
Ren and the very beginning of the forth
36:24
in the force awakens this is still silly
36:26
to me it's kind of lazy I think people
36:28
know that the creators know that people
36:31
love Star Wars a lot and we're going to
36:33
read books and watch TV shows and read
36:36
comics about it later and then they're
36:38
kind of resting on the fact that they
36:39
can tell us these extra details and
36:41
other properties and the super fans will
36:43
really get it but that makes the the
36:46
movie is much less enjoyable yes there
36:49
have been a lot of powers and just
36:50
levels that have been introduced in
36:52
these latest films that compared to
36:55
before it's been harder to digest right
36:59
yeah so the level up between the
37:01
original trilogy and the prequels make
37:03
sense because in the prequels this was
37:05
minute Jedi Society was at its peak
37:06
everybody should be way better at
37:08
everything right right but now you've
37:10
got this these these post schools well
37:20
take you've got these sequels post polls
37:23
from now you've got these sequels and
37:25
they take place after a serious period
37:28
of attrition where nobody knew what was
37:29
going on really everybody was trying to
37:31
rediscover being a Jedi
37:33
everything had taken a turn towards
37:35
technology whatever that means in the
37:37
Star Wars universe and all of a sudden
37:40
you've got people displaying power
37:42
levels and abilities like the ones in
37:45
the past without actually having any
37:47
access Tinian
37:48
apparently although that is the one
37:50
thing that having Palpatine in this
37:52
movie could explain away but they didn't
37:54
bother to do that because pop team was
37:57
was around in the old days they didn't
37:59
bother to do that they just sort of said
38:01
and now we have teleporting face time
38:05
what is time
38:07
whatever it I think it's make it that's
38:08
even that is inconsistent because Luke
38:12
at the Jedi tags mmm-hmm he was training
38:15
students I mean what happened to Kyle oh
38:18
yeah Kyle was essentially trained since
38:19
birth mm-hmm since birth and then he got
38:24
trained by Snoke if he is Palpatine how
38:26
Bateen was a great lightsaber duelist
38:29
the way that kylo has always been
38:31
dueling in this trilogy has been really
38:34
sloppy
38:35
yeah and just well it's because Adam
38:37
driver is a gigantic human being he's
38:40
gonna look awkward no matter what it is
38:41
I don't know how big he was but you
38:43
really do see it a little out of the
38:44
duels in this but I think partially
38:46
because he's always up against Daisy
38:48
Ridley who's a tiny tiny woman but he
38:50
just looks ridiculous it's like watching
38:52
a grasshopper fight with a sword he does
38:56
a good job with it I mean he's a very
38:57
good actor and he does sell you the
39:00
character through his motions because
39:01
you do kind of get the idea that you
39:02
know kylo is this basically a whiny
39:05
space and sell but I think I think that
39:08
the old sholde you did a better job even
39:11
or the original truly did their job even
39:13
though they weren't particularly as
39:15
proficient like you know Mark Hamill
39:17
wasn't that physical either yeah but I
39:19
mean he got better over time but there
39:22
was more emotion in the fights that kind
39:24
of sold it better and I know and as you
39:26
said because I don't ever such a good
39:28
actor she sells it but from a story
39:31
standpoint like this is the only guy
39:33
who's been trained since birth and this
39:35
yeah this is true and he should be just
39:38
so much better and the fact that she got
39:40
beat by Rey in the beginning I can yes
39:44
we can she just found out what a
39:45
lightsaber was yesterday yes yeah I mean
39:47
she just learned Jedi mind trick right
39:49
there she learned how to call a
39:51
lightsaber to her and it was just as I
39:54
said I don't want to because we have a
39:55
lot of talking she's very Mary Sue and
39:56
that's I really just they introduced
39:59
powers too fast and
40:01
- frequently in this film and they wind
40:04
up kind of being you know like you said
40:07
Jedi Mind Tricks they don't because they
40:09
do that they're don't have the impact
40:10
when you first see a real lightsaber
40:15
fight in the original trilogy it's
40:18
awesome because they introduced it
40:19
gradually and even though it literally
40:21
is just like it looks like two little
40:23
boys having a stick fight it's still
40:25
awesome because they've built it up and
40:28
it's really a part of the way of the
40:30
world in the universe when you see Darth
40:32
Maul unleash that double lightsaber that
40:36
he has in the first of the prequels
40:39
that's awesome but it's still pretty
40:42
awesome because it's a huge level up and
40:44
because you suddenly see oh this is what
40:47
the Jedi and the Sith are really
40:48
supposed to be like this is what they
40:50
were like before everything was lost
40:52
right in this one we're kind of trying
40:54
to split the difference between those
40:55
two things but they don't actually build
40:57
anything up it's there's no learning
40:59
curve there's no you don't really get to
41:01
journey with your heroes and that's the
41:03
problem
41:03
I completely agree anyway sorry moving
41:05
on Mauro's finn why was he so secretive
41:08
about his force sensitivity with Poe who
41:10
is his best friend
41:11
at this point sign of it on that did you
41:14
read about my about how he was trying to
41:18
get Disney to let them maybe him and
41:21
Finn have a I got a bromance but the
41:23
Disney overlords wouldn't let them do it
41:25
they really they really are just paying
41:27
Rose Tico dust in every possible way
41:29
aren't they yeah we'll get to her yeah
41:33
but yeah I just mean that would be nice
41:35
but they didn't set any of that up
41:36
really
41:37
I didn't think but they set up other
41:39
romantic avenues for Finn that never
41:41
went anywhere he's just you know chasing
41:43
behind Daisy Ridley like vanished yeah
41:49
they kind of eunuch eyes him it's not
41:50
cool yeah yeah I just I just found it if
41:53
if pose your best friend and you and you
41:56
really care about Rey as well what why
41:58
would you hide that from them like what
42:01
was the right time to tell them any like
42:03
it's not really and does he yeah and
42:06
again it's like this is one of those
42:08
places where they try to show the work
42:10
that's been going on behind the scenes
42:12
with these characters but they don't
42:13
write it well enough
42:15
for it to really have an impact and the
42:18
fact that it was a recurring gag mm-hmm
42:20
and there was no payoff for that at all
42:23
I he never told them and apparently JJ
42:26
Abrams confirmed that indeed what he
42:29
wanted to tell them the whole time was
42:31
that he was force sensitive not like
42:32
that he loved Drake that's what I
42:34
assumed the whole time hmm
42:36
like when a Mikaela oh I want to be like
42:38
Oh what was it oh uh nothing nothing no
42:41
it's it's fine my dude no yeah if he's
42:45
actually an important technical ability
42:47
here yes if you're able to get training
42:49
from Ray or late at this point why would
42:51
you hide that this terrible writing he
42:54
doesn't this character is really not
42:56
very well from at all he's been all six
42:58
different people over the course of
42:59
three movies yeah so it's kind of make
43:01
up your mind dude do they have therapy
43:03
in the galaxy in the few you know anyway
43:07
well I want to get to that a little bit
43:08
later if we can mm-hmm about my article
43:11
but okay how do you feel about Huck's
43:13
feeling himself as the spy I mean I'm
43:15
glad they finally gave Donald Grayson
43:16
something to do but at the same time it
43:21
was very it was like something I have a
43:23
different movie like all of a sudden
43:24
he's like I'm the spy okay shoulda had a
43:31
mustache it's just like something out of
43:32
Casino Royale
43:33
I have no spine no I'm the spy and then
43:35
I will say this one of the few moments
43:38
in this film it actually shocked me was
43:39
when he just got blown away yeah I mean
43:43
yeah we found this by the end yeah I was
43:47
but that was just so pointless um again
43:48
I I go back to the TV shows rebels host
43:51
the idea of a traitor much much better
43:54
like Huck's could have been the inside
43:55
man doing the rest of the movie helping
43:56
him out or he or they could have
43:58
bothered to set that up in the previous
44:00
two movies cuz he's been around this
44:01
whole time and why would he suddenly be
44:02
a spy he was like in charge of I mean
44:05
he's been like the head Nazi this whole
44:07
time and now he's a spy why why does he
44:10
hate kylo Ren that much we never really
44:12
get any of this character development I
44:14
mean we've seen even from the first
44:16
because I watched the the first two how
44:19
he always kind of when he was talking to
44:22
Snoke alongside Kyle and he would give
44:24
him give him advice it would be like
44:27
alright Huck you got it and he
44:28
kind of like look over at Kyla like yeah
44:30
bitch I'm still here mmm it's like yeah
44:33
but yeah would you betray all this
44:36
entire ideology I thought it was kind of
44:39
weird yeah but again I think that's also
44:41
because in the middle movie middles of
44:43
chili teas are always my least favorite
44:45
and I think having them made by a
44:46
completely different person who clearly
44:48
wanted the story to end in a different
44:49
way isn't helpful no they said JJ Abrams
44:53
set stuff up in the first movie which
44:54
clearly didn't get followed through in
44:56
the second movie and then he's trying to
44:59
go back to those same threads and tell
45:00
the same story he intended all along in
45:02
the third movie and it doesn't work
45:03
because the middles done something
45:04
completely different so it's like you've
45:06
got it's like it's like trying to tell a
45:09
story and you like have to leave and
45:11
somebody else tells it for you and then
45:13
you come back after an hour and try and
45:14
tell the story you originally had in
45:16
mind yeah it just doesn't work I agree
45:21
Jana who I don't know her nobody knows
45:27
her they better write a book about her I
45:30
I told you probably in the other podcast
45:32
and on Instagram I was just like kind of
45:34
fin I was excited to finally see this
45:36
black woman in a movie with natural hair
45:38
and she started out great yeah into the
45:43
background yeah I mean it was crazy to
45:46
me is she was another stormtrooper who
45:49
committed mutiny yeah all of them were
45:52
that's an amazing story what did they do
45:55
with that and and she did it on a
45:57
feeling so is she
45:59
force sensitive just like which I mean
46:03
this is potential for a really good book
46:06
in the future because apparently you've
46:07
got a whole segment of the stormtroopers
46:10
who are force sensitive which then leads
46:11
them to become mutineers and that's a
46:13
great story I kind of wish that had been
46:15
the story all along to be honest but
46:18
yeah they don't really do anything with
46:20
it they introduce this great concept and
46:22
then at the end well we'll get there I'm
46:24
sure keep going and that's you know
46:27
folks are going to you know say maybe
46:29
I'm a sexist but the idea of a
46:33
stormtrooper who was taken as a child
46:36
and it's slaved to be a fighter for the
46:40
Empire rebelling
46:42
and developing forest powers to defeat
46:44
his former captors would make for a much
46:47
more interesting story than just ray
46:50
being a nobody right I will say this
46:54
though I kind of hate that that's the
46:57
backstory of the stormtroopers I always
46:58
have liked that they're basically child
47:01
slaves child soldiers that have been
47:02
like it it removes the teeth from the
47:05
ideology of the the rebels versus the
47:07
Empire right he's being kind of just
47:09
yeah the fact that they're basically
47:11
brainwashed leaves kind of like I didn't
47:12
really love the fact or a lot of them
47:14
are clones as well I've always hated
47:15
that okay
47:16
like I thought that here's the thing it
47:19
really briefly what I feel like it's
47:23
lame and kind of a cop-out to make evil
47:26
not know it's evil to make evil
47:31
unwilling right if you're gonna have bad
47:34
guys they can't be bad guys because a
47:36
big bad guy fooled them into thinking
47:38
they that they're they I mean if the
47:41
people who are on the bad guy side don't
47:43
have a personal investment in what
47:45
they're doing then it seems kind of
47:49
unfair for the whole the good side who
47:51
are all there by choice to be shooting
47:54
them and beating them for nine movies
47:57
now yeah I never really liked that that
48:00
retrofitting of where the stormtroopers
48:02
come from actually I totally agree with
48:04
that and as you said the original
48:06
trilogy they were just from what we
48:07
could see just space Nazis it's easy to
48:09
be like yet mm-hmm shoot them all mm-hmm
48:12
then you get to the clone wars and
48:13
they're just kind of just meat bags yeah
48:15
and and then if you watch the actual
48:18
Clone Wars TV show you have even more
48:20
sympathy mm-hmm for them so that retro
48:23
actively you're like well are the so a
48:24
lot of clones in Episode four cuz I feel
48:27
kind of bad now about that and they
48:29
never get to this new film where it's
48:30
like yeah these are just kids who were
48:33
who didn't know any better and who were
48:34
brainwashed essentially y'all just
48:35
happily gunning them down right exactly
48:38
I mean they're gunning you down too but
48:39
they'd never known anything better I
48:42
don't like and I don't like ambiguity of
48:45
evil without ambiguity of good as well I
48:47
guess that's what I'm trying to say and
48:48
they introduced all this ambiguity of
48:50
the of what they're currently trying to
48:52
present as evil without giving good
48:55
the good side I guess compatible
48:59
ambiguity even though they try with ray
49:01
I wanted to take the only yes were they
49:05
kind of try to do which is why I really
49:06
liked rogue one actually totally anyway
49:09
sorry good
49:10
you'll be okay I want to get to Kyle and
49:14
race fight on the Death Star ruins I
49:16
love that after she touched the the
49:18
wayfinder and sees some of the dark side
49:19
in her mm-hmm Kyle is like you can't go
49:23
back to her now like I can't I'm like
49:25
nigga yo not alike right exactly like
49:30
their whole relationship again bad bad
49:33
writing
49:34
I feel like him and smoked the way the
49:38
way they talk to her is like they just
49:40
trying to do like these like entitled
49:41
white men just trying to Gaslight her
49:44
they say straight man's playing the
49:46
whole time man's playing dis gaslighting
49:48
like oh you are this you're this you
49:49
can't do this like why would she even
49:52
want to be a Jedi I'm like why would I
49:54
join you like you you're clearly crazy
49:56
exactly like why that's not as appealing
49:59
as they think it is I think in my
50:01
opening scene I slaughtered innocent
50:03
villagers but me and you were the same
50:05
like you're not the same I was killing
50:07
literally yeah just no no their
50:12
relationship made no sense to me at all
50:13
like why are they this friendly really
50:15
and I want to go to Palpatine telling
50:20
Kyle oh after that fight he must you
50:24
know what let me let me let me go back
50:26
and I wanted to say my favorite part of
50:29
the movie which was han and kylo talking
50:34
yeah I always get really happy when I
50:35
see Han he's to me he was the heart of
50:37
the original trilogy yeah I love Han and
50:39
you know both of them I mean I don't I
50:42
was a great actor but you know here's a
50:44
four came to Act two yeah and I love
50:46
that he didn't do anything flashy I
50:47
didn't think he'd come back but I'm glad
50:49
he did that was nice man when Adam
50:52
driver was kind of like fighting the
50:54
worst to tell his father that he loved
50:56
him and he was like I know right just
50:58
like from impact I was like wow
51:00
have I told you my Han story from the
51:02
original trilogy no okay so when I was
51:04
like 7
51:05
my mother sat me down and was like we're
51:06
gonna watch these movies they are great
51:08
we sat and we watched
51:09
all the original trilogy movies and I
51:11
was into it man but I knew that like if
51:14
I had any kind of negative reaction my
51:15
mom wouldn't let me finish watching them
51:17
and at the end of Empire Strikes Back
51:19
when they froze Han and Carbonite I was
51:21
so horrified that I excused myself to go
51:24
and like secretly throw up and come back
51:26
because I was so hot but I didn't want
51:27
to like let my mom know how much it
51:29
upset me cuz I wanted to watch the rest
51:30
of the movie I wanted to see what
51:31
happened next right but I like whit and
51:33
like threw up and that I just came back
51:34
like nothing had happened like okay I'm
51:36
ready for the next movie we got popcorn
51:37
because I was I was horrified yes so
51:40
scared look on his face I was terrified
51:42
it was so bad yeah yeah yeah anyway I
51:50
want to go to Palpatine telling kylo
51:53
that he must kill ray before she becomes
51:56
a Jedi is she not a Jedi sorry I didn't
52:01
mean to yell but I didn't mean to yell
52:03
that was a stupidest thing like kill her
52:04
before she becomes a Jedi well then what
52:06
are you yeah like what's the criteria
52:09
for being a Jedi now and this is again
52:10
another strike against this feminist
52:14
like in the first film
52:15
she bested kylo Ren something Luke was
52:18
hardly close to in his first film and
52:20
kylo is easily stronger than Darth Vader
52:22
was um in the last Jedi she confronted
52:26
kylo and Snoke on their own turf and
52:29
returned the Jedi Luke was challenged by
52:31
Yoda to do the same thing with Emperor
52:33
and Vader or he didn't say go to go to
52:35
the Emperor he said just go to Vader
52:37
that's what Yoda said you have to
52:38
confront your friend your father or a
52:40
Jedi you will not be her son like that
52:42
she went to both of those dudes like is
52:44
that not enough even in the second film
52:46
she doesn't seem to have got she doesn't
52:49
have any guidance really because that
52:51
wasn't what Luke did in his appearance
52:52
in the last film and everybody is
52:55
constantly talking down to her and she's
52:57
a Jedi but she doesn't get to be because
52:59
the men don't approve this is kind of
53:01
garbage you know like I was really
53:02
annoyed with that mm-hmm you know like
53:04
she's clearly a Jetta and we haven't
53:06
because we haven't really had a lady
53:07
Jedi before this is just kind of a
53:10
strike against the writing because it
53:11
was clear that none of the men who've
53:13
been running this series had any idea
53:14
what to do with this character of Rey
53:16
they thought a girl Jedi would be cool
53:17
people will come and watch it but they
53:19
didn't actually put any thought into
53:20
actually what that is you haven't
53:22
watched the
53:23
a lot but the way that ahsoka tano is
53:25
used I mean she's honestly my favorite
53:27
character in the entire series she's
53:29
awesome look I really like her a lot so
53:31
if you have the chance to watch it I
53:33
recommend it but yeah you know ray she
53:36
bested multiple Imperial Guards who were
53:38
trained to defeat Jedi she levitated
53:40
multiple boulders to save her friend at
53:43
the end of that movie in Luke's fur in
53:46
the entire Strikes Back
53:47
she thirst-trapping-- collar on across
53:49
the galaxy I mean come on now in Empire
53:53
Strikes Back Luke couldn't even levitate
53:55
the x-wing mm-hmm and yet she's doing
53:57
that with like with no effort and in the
53:59
second movie in the beginning of this
54:00
movie again she's left hand those
54:02
boulders like she's an avatar Luke
54:05
couldn't do any of these things when he
54:06
beat Vader she saves kylo Ren physically
54:10
and spiritually again something Luke
54:12
couldn't even do for his own father yeah
54:14
so it's like again what are the
54:16
standards yeah because she is at this
54:17
point the Jedi she's frankly she's kind
54:20
of more powerful than Palpatine at this
54:21
point but at least in terms of them
54:25
demonstratively so what yeah ridiculous
54:28
I was really annoyed by that before this
54:30
this bloodline drama the Jedi trials of
54:34
old weren't about confronting your
54:35
family so this whole thing of like you
54:37
can only become a Jedi when you confront
54:40
your dark family members is it's it's
54:42
really silly now well this is an issue
54:44
with Star Wars in general I said we have
54:45
this whole mythos of the Jedi but they
54:47
don't do a very good job of defining
54:49
that in the film what it actually means
54:51
to be a Jedi because it's very different
54:53
in each trilogy true true again you
54:58
really got to watch the Clone Wars and
54:59
rebels yeah I got to go back to it I've
55:01
watched one season I need to watch this
55:02
so great how do you feel about Rey being
55:05
a Palpatine what for that's how I felt
55:10
yeah like okay that's nice but again
55:12
this is where it's very much like JJ
55:13
Abrams was like no all the time I wanted
55:15
her to be a Palpatine so I don't care
55:17
about what what what's his name Ryan
55:19
Johnson did she's a Papa teen and I'm
55:21
going to make that exactly I'm gonna
55:23
make that happen now um yeah it didn't
55:26
really add much to anything it doesn't
55:27
matter that she's a Papa teen especially
55:29
since at the end she's like I'm Rey
55:30
Skywalker so this is the next strike
55:33
against the feminist narrative because
55:35
despite my issues with the last should
55:36
her not having special parents was not
55:39
one of my problems yeah actually it was
55:41
one of the better things about the movie
55:43
I totally agree like no one acts about
55:45
Yoda or mace or Obi Wan's parents
55:47
they're just great on their own exactly
55:49
the end the last should I present it Rey
55:51
in that way but all that was thrown out
55:54
yeah like she's not strong by herself
55:56
then she couldn't even defeat Palpatine
55:58
by herself she had to have all the other
56:00
Jedi in her to accomplish the task which
56:04
didn't make any sense at all and that
56:06
was one of those points I was like yeah
56:08
okay so what's happening on Facebook
56:09
like I was just really seriously that
56:11
should have been exciting but I was like
56:12
why no totally she she just became a
56:15
vessel exactly and it's kind of you know
56:19
like what's her real arc as a character
56:21
like Rey told Finn on the Falcon I think
56:25
that everyone thinks they know her but
56:27
she's afraid that no one does it feels
56:29
meta for the movie he does because it's
56:31
true they don't bother to give her a
56:33
character character heroes have journeys
56:35
heroes have flaws her entire journey is
56:37
encapsulated by doing fancy things
56:41
progressively fancier things with no
56:43
idea of how she got to know them and her
56:45
fatal flaw is that maybe her family's
56:48
not special that's nothing again just
56:50
like Captain Marvel nothing about her is
56:52
actually about her it's all about other
56:54
people's perceptions of her and other
56:56
people's definitions of her that that
56:59
says some to me that says something very
57:01
disturbing about the way that young
57:03
women are trained to think of ourselves
57:04
if we think that that is feminist yes
57:07
because that's to me isn't feminist at
57:09
all and if also it it's disturbing to me
57:12
because it reinforces exactly what these
57:14
meathead dudes who are like well they
57:16
put women in Star Wars and ruined it
57:18
because now it's feminist you really
57:20
think that women think of ourselves in
57:21
terms of what you think right are you
57:23
kidding me right like it's just there's
57:25
a lot of problems there I'm really
57:27
shocked to hear that it's a feminist
57:28
script this is the stench of armpits
57:29
wafting over this entire argument no
57:31
thank you
57:32
the emperor though I know who I
57:36
like looking like that I said on on
57:38
Twitter that his his tinder name is a
57:41
champagne puppy
57:44
you used to call me on my florist phone
57:48
I'm just saying like they pwned him if
57:51
he cloned himself as a ninety nine
57:53
thousand year old man so he was but you
57:55
know eight hundred and ninety-nine
57:56
thousand years old when they went and he
57:59
was the the senator at the time that's
58:03
not better no you're right right but
58:05
again that's just more hand waving like
58:07
yes yeah I the Emperor had a wife he's a
58:15
Sith and there's that whole rule of two
58:17
thing and the jedis don't have wives of
58:19
procreate and it can notwithstanding so
58:23
shouldn't the emperor not have had i
58:26
don't interest i don't know if the same
58:28
have a rule about about getting busy
58:31
though I I can't I can't call that one
58:33
yeah who knows yeah that that was just
58:35
thinking of it now why you got me
58:37
thinking about this now moving on oh my
58:39
god you know when that force line blinis
58:42
okay anyway I want to go to two x ago
58:46
now and when Ray enters the building
58:49
it's like all these dudes are in the
58:53
stadium it's like can can you imagine
58:55
Palpatine getting his city ternal that's
58:57
their names into the stadium seeds
58:59
trying to surprise already like it's a
59:01
birthday party
59:01
like everybody showed up she's coming
59:03
he's coming make a sound or I'll kill
59:05
you one of them like coughs like I
59:08
needed like chokes them out lightning
59:10
blast him yeah like what's a normal day
59:13
for them and those stadium seats you
59:16
know a bigger question who are they
59:19
so yes so again too much hand waving
59:22
like do we have to read everything
59:24
important about this story in the visual
59:27
dictionary companion book so apparently
59:29
the city eternal are just non
59:32
force-sensitive Goths who believe the
59:35
emperor is like the savior I non
59:39
force-sensitive Goths who believe see
59:42
all of that like why are they there so
59:45
I'm you're not for sensitive but you're
59:46
gonna follow after a guy who is for
59:48
sensitive but also looks like rum raisin
59:51
ice cream and you really have no like
59:54
they had no effect in the story like
59:55
just us just seeing the little people
59:58
working
59:58
on the snoke tanks in the beam the film
60:00
would've been all we needed like we
60:01
literally did not need to see them like
60:05
whatsoever there was literally you could
60:07
take them out it would have affected
60:08
anything I mean I guess you know he did
60:10
he didn't need evil MOOCs of some sort
60:12
but why those guys and why don't we get
60:14
some sort I mean the stormtroopers as
60:17
much as I hate the explanation for them
60:18
they have one these guys are just scared
60:21
of dudes on a planet
60:22
how does Papa teen even get to that
60:24
point like you know how does how do you
60:27
just show up right looking like Ivan
60:29
ooze and demand loyalty and fealty from
60:33
a planet of people who have no idea what
60:34
the forces and get it it may have just
60:37
just brought them from different places
60:38
I mean they missed again just God's like
60:40
well a man that that dude that dudes are
60:42
rad let's go follow him I guess yeah but
60:45
yeah I really hope Marvel takes lessons
60:47
from Star Wars in regards to how they
60:48
merge their media like if they have a
60:51
bunch of hand waving in their face for
60:53
movies like Star Wars like it's gonna be
60:55
whack I'm worried about facts I've got
60:57
so many new properties so many shows and
61:00
then they're just all this new stuff
61:01
happening in the comics and so on and so
61:02
forth and yeah they got to be really
61:04
careful but Marvel has a Kevin Feige
61:07
Star Wars does not I have somebody who
61:10
is kind of in that role but I don't
61:12
think she's doing a very good job okay -
61:13
yeah I think they're they're kind of
61:16
slowly kind of phasing her out I think
61:17
my from what I heard I thought Phi Keys
61:19
gonna become the new dude which I mean
61:22
that could be interesting yeah um really
61:26
quick the Knights of Ren were wasted we
61:30
never got any information but they just
61:31
sort of showed up and looked cool and
61:33
fought a little bit but then what
61:34
everyone was excited about them they
61:37
were on the cover of Esquire and
61:38
everything yeah they were some if not
61:40
all them are former students of Luke
61:42
Skywalker
61:43
mm-hmm they didn't do anything as maybe
61:46
except for look cool they surrounded
61:48
kylo and we don't even know if they had
61:50
the ability to kill him or not mm-hmm
61:52
but they're all force sensitive he had
61:55
no lightsaber like they could have think
61:57
they could have him should have killed
61:58
him right there mm-hmm
61:59
they'd even talk like you're a traitor
62:01
or mm-hmm
62:02
they had nothing like that really could
62:04
have been some emotion there even in
62:06
last Jedi phasma talked to Finn about
62:09
being a traitor even kylo Ren yellow
62:12
at Finn my saber like trade are yeah but
62:15
lights are in didn't even do that to
62:17
their own masters there's no Humanity in
62:20
them at all an animal you've got to give
62:22
you've got to give evil nuances and you
62:24
if you're gonna create ambiguity on one
62:25
side you've got to create it on all yes
62:27
I've got others there must be balance in
62:29
the force
62:29
yeah rate kills Palpatine I guess yeah I
62:35
guess what is it about his death this
62:38
time that makes it permanent because we
62:40
all thought it was definitive last time
62:41
I can't pop it I didn't come back in
62:44
other places mm-hmm can a spirit
62:47
transferred to someone else and if
62:49
Palpatine yeah why don't he just jump
62:52
into kylo Ren like what's-his-name from
62:54
Titans domino domino Deathstroke's have
62:59
you seen Titans no okay never mind
63:02
there's that's all I wanted Jericho
63:03
Jericho that's inner yeah I never mind I
63:05
won't spoil it for you but never mind
63:06
moving on yeah this whole like kind of
63:09
Highlander idea of all the SIF spirits
63:12
going into a new person every time they
63:15
die or something like very much so where
63:18
these rules come from like why did a no
63:20
be one or you ought to talk about this
63:21
to Luke why didn't look even say this to
63:24
to Ray yeah again they leveled it up
63:29
without actually bothering to set that
63:30
up in any meaningful way so it's cool
63:34
but so exactly sidenote what's up with
63:38
Palpatine always getting defeated when
63:40
use uses lightning yeah you'd think he'd
63:42
stop yeah like in return the Sith mace
63:44
turn lighting back on him and he forms
63:46
him mm-hmm
63:47
permanently maybe that's why he can't
63:49
close up better because his DNA is
63:51
literally like this way now mm-hmm this
63:55
is a California raisin for life yeah I
63:57
mean if Anakin hadn't shown up in that
63:59
seemed like he would have been dead
64:00
mm-hmm he gets blindsided by Vader and
64:03
toss into the reactor when he's using
64:04
lightning mm-hmm then in this movie he
64:07
clearly sees that Rey is pushing this
64:08
lighting back on him and he keeps going
64:11
which you would think being Palpatine
64:15
like fisa floored the amazing lightsaber
64:18
duel er etc etc etc if you're gonna
64:21
bring him back and you're gonna give
64:22
everybody else phenomenal cosmic powers
64:26
they didn't really give him anything
64:28
extra no he's just sort of he's doing
64:30
the same old tricks and everybody else
64:31
has gotten way better in comparison if
64:33
you've literally sucked the life force
64:35
out of two of the strongest Jedi that
64:37
we've ever seen hmm and you're giving a
64:40
crazy lightning storm to destroying a
64:42
whole fleet of starships why would you
64:45
just go back to just lightning here like
64:48
she she froze both of them in the air
64:50
and that was even before he got their
64:52
life force things like he could have
64:53
easily just frozen her and just ripped
64:55
her apart exactly been touching her
64:57
exactly but I said he starts shooting
64:59
lightning and then he keeps doing it
65:01
like he'd like he doesn't know how to do
65:03
anything else but it was it was me who's
65:05
probably thinking like oh the
65:07
stadium they want to show - aw it's like
65:11
I promised them I'd shoot the lightning
65:12
all right here we here we go it's the
65:14
Encore oh Oh nah no more hand
65:19
waving land oh just going out into the
65:21
galaxy to find more ships whose ships
65:26
but again he's literally just the
65:28
magical negro of the universe he kind of
65:32
shows up in time with more ships it's
65:33
like exactly I get frustrated you
65:39
haven't watched rebels but for those out
65:42
there who do watch rebels the ghost is a
65:44
part of the resistance just like they
65:46
had that ship in rogue one at this point
65:48
for rogue one it made some sense because
65:51
it was a prequel to these movies we
65:52
don't know what happened to them but if
65:54
the ghost is now in the future that
66:00
doesn't make sense because in rebels
66:02
there are new Jedi
66:04
Ezra is a child force sensitive person
66:08
in the end of that series he becomes a
66:10
Jedi essentially so where was he the
66:13
whole time and the commander of that
66:16
ship is one of the original creators of
66:20
the Rebel Alliance I mean she's pretty
66:23
much what Leia should be right now right
66:25
interesting so the fact that she's not
66:27
even in this and we could even see them
66:30
or hear their voice I was really sorry
66:33
are they treating the shows like they're
66:34
not Canon them know they are canon okay
66:37
which is weird then because the
66:39
think that they would take every
66:40
opportunity to bring this stuff in
66:42
you're told he was interesting okay I
66:44
didn't realize how do you feel about
66:46
real Oh kissing you like I seriously
66:49
hollered no thank you at the screen like
66:51
what was that for there was no setup
66:54
first of all I just in my head I have it
66:58
that they are somehow related I know
66:59
they're not but they're like play
67:00
cousins or something and it's just
67:01
there's yeah I mean yeah if Palpatine
67:04
did create Anakin as he kind of like
67:06
kept creepily looking at Anakin during
67:08
their their talk yeah at the Opera and
67:11
he had it and he had a granddaughter
67:13
like aren't they like cousins in some
67:16
way kind of I just but that besides that
67:20
that just didn't work it why are they
67:26
I'm speechless because that I just
67:28
couldn't understand why they would make
67:29
that choice without any kind of setup I
67:31
mean just because they can force time
67:33
each other blah blah blah he's cruel and
67:36
mean and gas lady and mansplaining to
67:38
her she has no personality whatsoever
67:41
this is like literally a match made in
67:43
hell why would they do this
67:46
I guess if she's this empty vessel for
67:47
everybody to tell her I guess it's just
67:49
she can just do whatever yeah yeah
67:51
that's a very good point but I was not
67:54
impressed
67:55
personally what did you think I was I
67:58
didn't hate it I didn't really like it
68:00
either
68:01
for you like Mikey I was just kind of
68:02
very neutral and it's like like yeah
68:04
whatever came out of nowhere I was
68:06
reading though and again I hate that I
68:08
have to read things to to kind of
68:10
understand I understand but the whole
68:13
notion of force healing so when you heal
68:15
someone you're putting part of your life
68:16
force into them and they both kind of
68:19
exchanged life in as I'm supposed to be
68:21
forcing again again they never explained
68:25
it in the movie like bizarre there was
68:27
there's a theory that because Rey puts
68:29
some of her life energy into kylo when
68:31
she killed him it changed his kind of
68:34
spirit and made him a better person but
68:36
again not explained that's we can only
68:39
just kind of guess but it's not even a
68:41
good guess no it's stupid you know
68:42
what's funny what you just said you hate
68:43
that you have to read stuff to to get
68:45
into this it's funny again that's not a
68:48
sign of that that's a sign of poor
68:51
writing yeah because if you look at the
68:52
Watchmen for example
68:53
where you kind of do have to read PDP
68:56
dia to get some of the finer details of
68:57
the show but you don't mind reading it
68:59
do you and it's not that important yeah
69:02
like we tried to learn who ky man was
69:04
but I'm honestly like if they didn't
69:06
talk about it he's not gonna the rest
69:07
destroy the story exactly the rest of it
69:09
hang hung together so well you could
69:10
just get into it even if you didn't read
69:12
this one it doesn't make sense and then
69:14
you read it and it makes even less sense
69:15
and that's annoying
69:19
yeah Rome was kind of wind down here I
69:23
want to talk about what I find was a
69:26
misstep in his trilogy I mean there's a
69:28
lot right just another one that I don't
69:32
think he was talked about is I think
69:34
they should have shown more diversity in
69:36
force powers and use and end users again
69:40
if we have Finn and possibly Jana and
69:44
her crew with force sensitive powers I
69:47
would I would have liked to have seen
69:48
different affinities maybe like so in
69:50
the expanded universe people like Jason
69:53
and Sola could talk to animals
69:54
but he wasn't as strong in battle
69:56
against someone like Luke looks like
69:58
stronger fighter Jana had an affinity
70:00
for machines some could heal something
70:03
to do things not everybody was a fighter
70:05
and not everybody needed to be exactly
70:07
so if you've got a whole community of
70:08
force user suddenly you're right they
70:10
needed to show that there's yeah that
70:12
there's more to the force than just
70:13
being a wizard night and sure like if
70:17
Rey was good at healing then kind of
70:22
built that up maybe but the fact that
70:24
she just showed up on Posada and just
70:25
touched the snake and healed him just
70:27
for reasons you're like what like we can
70:29
do this now yeah exactly
70:31
definitely I know and it doesn't
70:32
surprise anybody write more nobody's
70:35
like wow you healed them they're just
70:36
like yeah the force and they keep going
70:37
yeah like like that could have been
70:39
useful when Finn got his back chopped up
70:41
in the first movie right yeah anyway
70:46
words are we gonna talk about Rose Tico
70:49
yes before I get there I want to cuz I
70:52
do want to get to how the PLC's were
70:54
wasted in this franchise but I went
70:56
about Janna
70:57
the end of the movie has Lando talking
70:59
to Janna and she didn't know who she was
71:01
and Lando so through our listeners know
71:06
who she is again
71:07
from the visual dictionary Lando after
71:12
the return the Jedi wanted to start a
71:13
family we don't know who the wife is but
71:16
apparently they had a daughter and at
71:18
the age of two she was kidnapped and the
71:21
way that the timelines line up Jana
71:25
could possibly be his long-lost daughter
71:27
okay hold on wait a minute so your
71:30
daughter gets kidnapped when you - and
71:32
you still like Colt 45 and around the
71:33
galaxy like all right all right hey like
71:36
really that should change a person but
71:37
they don't instead of see now Star Wars
71:44
is not the deepest property out there
71:45
no right you the most of the characters
71:47
don't have particularly well-developed
71:49
sense of inferiority but you can't
71:53
introduce that level of trauma and not
71:56
do something with it yeah it's in a book
71:58
it's just and I even like his his own
72:02
like novel it's just a blurb in a in a
72:05
little visual dictionary it's it's so
72:08
stupid and the fact that he like has
72:10
this well let's find out who you are
72:12
it's like Donald Trump talking to Ivanka
72:15
yeah yeah very much so because you know
72:18
again without reading you have no idea
72:20
what the relationship between them might
72:22
be and it just comes across as creepy
72:24
yeah and she's given him better my eyes
72:26
too like yeah let's find out yeah it's
72:28
really not it's a very awkward scene
72:31
without it I hated that scene yeah that
72:34
gets one of the last scenes of the film
72:35
that's what sticks with you leave just
72:37
like wow why did you do that like do
72:40
another take yes because that came it
72:43
just came across as awkward Rose Tico
72:48
yeah telling retrain like I pour one out
72:50
for her man like yeah cuz you know she
72:52
left Twitter and everything else for no
72:54
reason no reason bro according to slate
72:58
roaster you had one minute and 16
73:01
seconds of screen time I kept looking to
73:05
see if she was gonna I kept expecting
73:07
her to be in more things and she
73:10
literally there was just her face twice
73:11
can you imagine the look on her face at
73:14
the screening like in front of her
73:16
friends and family she probably brought
73:18
with her can you imagine I mean I'm
73:20
surprised she didn't
73:21
he'll at the first reading the table
73:24
reading for the script although I could
73:26
see where she wouldn't want to because
73:27
she's in Star Wars you can't really
73:29
complain too much about a property like
73:31
that but yeah well apparently she filmed
73:34
a scene with ray like like she got more
73:37
stuff but does he cut it off so and
73:40
maybe she didn't know until she got
73:41
there like I don't I don't know the
73:42
story and the way that Disney does these
73:45
these press junkets I mean Jada Abrams
73:48
was talking about oh yeah
73:49
me and Ron Johnson or cool man like we
73:51
talked and we tried to like merge story
73:53
together and like that's obviously a lie
73:55
yeah if they did they did a really bad
73:57
job it's a lie it's obviously a lie and
73:59
you know I I haven't really seen the
74:01
preciousness for kilmury trance for this
74:03
but I don't think she's been in very
74:05
many which is telling right but yeah I
74:08
mean but to be fair even with this
74:11
they're not really doing a lot of press
74:13
for this movie I don't think I feel like
74:15
they don't have to and I think that a
74:16
lot of the other a lot of the actors in
74:18
this movie have other stuff coming out
74:20
around the same time so I've seen I've
74:22
seen Adam driver talking a lot about a
74:24
marriage story mm-hmm and very little
74:26
about Star Wars I kind of feel like the
74:27
actors know that this isn't kind of it I
74:29
think they're all kind of they're
74:31
excited to be in Star Wars but they're
74:32
not interested in engaging with the
74:34
press machine yeah I wouldn't either I
74:37
mean the thing again Star Wars is the
74:40
best and worst thing about the nerd
74:41
universe no matter people are always
74:43
gonna have something to say and very
74:44
little of it will be flattering I mean I
74:46
just at the beginning of this I said the
74:48
movie is fine and then I've just spent
74:49
the last hour ripping it to pieces so
74:50
you know but it's not the actress fault
74:53
I will say that no hmm I think she's
74:55
great
74:56
hmm um I wrote in the article that I
74:58
think she gave one of if not the best
75:00
line of the last Jedi she was like
75:02
that's how we're gonna win not by
75:04
fighting what we hate but saving will be
75:06
love right unfortunately well her whole
75:10
plotline was poorly put together did you
75:15
know that in this film she was promoted
75:17
to being the leader of the engineering
75:20
corpse of the resistance I mean I
75:22
figured there was a reason she was
75:23
standing in the room with all the
75:24
important people but good for them for
75:26
not explaining that at all jeez yeah I
75:29
mean like they literally went out of
75:32
their way to make thin and poe generals
75:34
now
75:35
but they couldn't even yeah cuz they
75:38
brought back the Pete and Jung go as a
75:39
cricket frog I mean yeah I mean they
75:43
really did it was like they Jedi hand
75:45
wave like see we brought them back
75:47
this is diversity not really I mean Rose
75:51
did tell them that to destroy the start
75:53
of Shor's they have to shoot the cannons
75:55
but again they'd even they could even
75:56
give her a title or nothing like they
76:00
went to that planet to hack 3p oh but if
76:02
she's the engineering yeah they didn't
76:04
ask her yeah yes I'm just like she could
76:07
have had more to do you literally went
76:09
out of your way to like light-years away
76:12
from her to set up like four new
76:15
characters yeah who were interesting and
76:17
probably should have been introduced
76:19
away earlier but yeah I mean the whole
76:21
like poll used to be a scoundrel was
76:24
like well I mean I actually found that
76:27
kind of interesting I kind of liked that
76:29
there was a whole bit where everybody
76:30
was like you were a spice right I know
76:31
you were a storm trooper like leave me
76:33
alone
76:33
and that kind of set up the character
76:35
cuz I feel like Poe is get so much love
76:37
within this new trilogy but he's not
76:40
they'd haven't really done much with his
76:41
character he's just kind of a guy who's
76:43
there who's really rude and
76:45
disrespectful to everybody so the fact
76:47
that they tried to give him a little bit
76:49
more I actually like that I just thought
76:51
I always saw Poe as a emerging of wedge
76:57
antilles
76:57
or wedge wedge antilles yeah wedge
77:00
antilles
77:01
and Han and that like western Emma story
77:03
he's just always been a great pilot and
77:06
you know Hans just has a smart mouth and
77:08
so just having Poe just be a great pilot
77:12
like to me that was fine and like if
77:15
they would have introduced that earlier
77:17
hmm I would have cared if activate is
77:20
kind of just again went out of their way
77:21
away from other style like other carries
77:24
that we could have learned more about in
77:25
and and got deeper into you just set up
77:29
new people for no reason I that right I
77:32
liked the new people I just wish they'd
77:34
been brought in earlier but again it was
77:35
JJ Abrams saying yeah like basic yes
77:40
apparently because I think he probably
77:42
if he had done the second movie he would
77:44
have brought them in earlier but he
77:45
didn't so he was just trying to cram
77:47
everything else he wanted to do into
77:48
this movie
77:49
sure which didn't what didn't work I
77:51
mean it was I mean it was fine but yeah
77:53
yeah yeah point out for Rose man yeah I
77:57
feel really sorry for her there they
77:59
really should have if they're gonna be
78:00
considering the amount of abuse she's
78:02
taken speaking of a feminist narrative
78:04
considering the amount of abuse she's
78:06
taken both for race racial issues and
78:08
also because she's a woman who has the
78:11
nerve to be in Star Wars that they
78:15
really paid her dust in this movie
78:16
because that actress deserved a much
78:18
better storyline if she's gonna have to
78:20
because she's gonna have to put up with
78:21
more of this crap and now she's gonna
78:23
have to put up with see it's that
78:25
important you were there after all
78:26
because she's only in a minute of this
78:27
movie
78:28
that's my troll a troll on Twitter is he
78:30
he's literally clicking the Rose Tico
78:32
hashtags on every tweet and trying to
78:35
like ruffle feathers
78:37
that's gross it's sad Mike and I told
78:39
him like I'm not doing this with you
78:40
that's really gross
78:45
the lead actor for Aladdin I don't know
78:47
his name but apparently he has not
78:49
gotten any offers after the film's
78:51
release which I yeah really yeah and I
78:56
feel bad about that and I really hope
78:57
that kilmury train doesn't suffer the
78:59
same fate yeah I don't know what all
79:01
she's in I think she's I don't know yeah
79:04
hmm
79:04
this is the problem is that we don't
79:06
have the gift of mediocrity in the same
79:08
way that other people do we can't make a
79:10
Justice League and be awful in it and
79:11
then still get the medium spread of
79:14
Vogue like what's his name Ezra Miller
79:16
whoever you know or write that garbage
79:18
yeah and get a chance to write Star Wars
79:20
exactly I mean it's not fair at all and
79:24
as much as I am in the make-your-own
79:25
camp of sci-fi and speculative fiction
79:29
cultural properties like I'm not
79:31
impressed that The Witcher has black
79:32
characters that's still some really
79:33
white but I think that in this
79:37
situation it's just it just goes to show
79:39
that there's still so much inequity in
79:40
Hollywood totally not and I think that
79:44
often the prevalent narratives about it
79:46
are not necessarily the truest ones to
79:48
be fair even the ones that I that are
79:50
that sound like they're on the side of
79:52
right completely ignore the real issues
79:54
in in the industry
79:56
Star Wars is very much a white male
80:00
liberal movie
80:03
the characterization of these POCs and
80:05
even women I think we're very much seen
80:07
through a white male liberal lens yeah I
80:10
mean but again it's these these guys who
80:13
are very much or on the side of right
80:14
and they're doing all the right things
80:15
but because there's such a lack of depth
80:18
and understanding and understanding that
80:21
people besides you have in Terry already
80:23
I mean look at the Watchmen the
80:25
brilliant thing about the Watchmen is
80:26
that all of the characters regardless of
80:28
their background had a sense of
80:29
character or a sense of humanity a sense
80:31
of depth Star Wars again is not
80:33
necessarily a deep property but if
80:35
you're going to make these choices to
80:37
include people of color to include
80:40
people who are not the typical fantasy
80:43
hero you've got to do it in a way that
80:47
is not shallow totally because I mean
80:52
look at we were all really happy to see
80:53
Han back because he's not a shallow
80:55
character I totally agree yeah I don't
80:57
know I think there's a lot going on with
80:59
that I'm trying to find what else Kelly
81:01
Marie Tran has been in because I'm sure
81:02
she's been in something else before the
81:05
last Jedi she had nothing yeah yeah she
81:07
was she was brand-new which I was really
81:09
she was quit acting in so she got this
81:11
which she still might
81:14
yes I'm saying yeah yeah after all this
81:16
abuse like she was in something called
81:21
sorry for your loss with the lady who
81:23
played Scarlet Witch in 2018 okay she's
81:26
done some Star Wars voices cool she was
81:29
in the Croods too huh I don't know what
81:32
that is it doesn't look good
81:33
the posters like cavemen I don't have
81:35
kids so I'm not sure if I wouldn't know
81:37
what that is yeah she's been in a couple
81:40
of things but ya know we all the Croods
81:42
2 comes out next year but there's not a
81:46
lot on her and everything else is very
81:48
much like like her credits or things
81:51
like boba chick butterfly raise grief
81:53
girl things like that I really yeah
81:56
that's a shame I would love to see her
81:59
and Jana getting like a women of color
82:04
TV show hmm like even sub miniseries
82:08
mm-hmm because in the novel's this is in
82:11
the article I wrote but in the novel's
82:13
mm-hmm
82:14
Rose and her sister pay
82:16
the one who died in last Jedi they
82:19
actually help create or they I think
82:21
themselves developed stealth technology
82:24
for for bombers hmm and hold old lady
82:27
who life speeded through smoke ship
82:29
mm-hmm brought them into the resistance
82:31
mm-hmm and you would have gotten that
82:33
from her to standing by an escape pod
82:34
xanthine brothers so yeah it's not
82:37
really fair that all of the most
82:38
exciting parts of those characters
82:40
stories take place outside of the movies
82:41
I feel like they should have those
82:44
movies didn't have enough direction to
82:45
really give you the good stuff yeah so I
82:47
hope they can to like kind of help
82:50
rectify this I would love to get kind of
82:52
a Mandalorian quality of production for
82:55
these for these ladies too no team up
82:57
and do something cool mmm cuz Gianna had
83:00
a lot going of going on for herself too
83:01
she was obviously brave and mm-hmm again
83:04
she she and her company committed mutiny
83:06
and she became the leader of those
83:07
people right and that's just an
83:09
interesting story in and of itself yeah
83:11
just the little bit I was like ooh tell
83:13
me more about that and that didn't
83:14
happen she's she's familiar with bombs a
83:17
detonation that means she has that kind
83:18
of skills she's a marksman she shot
83:20
things at the sky with a bow and arrow
83:22
and in the movie I mean she has a lot of
83:25
skills and I would love to see more of
83:27
her yeah she was way more interesting
83:30
than some of the other characters
83:31
absolutely but hey Luke came back he
83:34
didn't need to yeah and again that was
83:37
another like F you did right Johnson
83:38
like totally don't feel my lights every
83:41
way yeah exactly
83:42
mm-hmm yeah let's do everything else esé
83:47
not really I mean I
83:50
returning to my original thesis it was
83:52
fine mmm it wasn't amazing it was just a
83:55
movie I mean if I saw it without any
83:57
context at all I'd be like okay this is
83:59
interesting but I think because Star
84:02
Wars is built up so big it's hard to
84:05
look at it neutrally I didn't think it
84:07
was terrible but I don't think it was
84:09
good either it was more watchable than
84:12
last Jedi the story was better put
84:17
together but clearly they were trying to
84:19
tell a story that was never intended to
84:21
be told so I don't know it's not my
84:26
favorite
84:28
yeah I have more to say but a lot of it
84:34
is about the use of POCs and it's in the
84:37
articles so check that out on the
84:39
Facebook page I'll put a link under
84:40
there folks when I have a look at that
84:42
and let's cut to you want to do a
84:46
ranking or your net at all well here
84:48
I'll work with you on your ranking cuz I
84:50
want to see what you have to say okay
84:51
yeah that's fair number eleven attack of
84:54
the clones that's for number 11 that's
84:56
my like least favorite really I really
84:59
can't even after seeing this one I
85:01
really can't remember anything from taco
85:02
clones outside of Mesa cutting out
85:04
cutting off Django's head and the final
85:06
fight with you bouncing around I can't
85:08
remember a thing else from the movie
85:09
like literally I can't Wow okay oh he
85:12
anakin whining about so III killed the
85:15
women and the children this will be one
85:17
he's always holding me back okay now
85:19
that as an actor who's disappeared and
85:20
he deserved to that was just wow such a
85:24
bad performance anyway I don't know if
85:26
it was the writing or him but wow yeah
85:28
so again that whiny Anakin part alone
85:31
was just like yeah this is no mm-hmm
85:34
number 10 is Raisa Skywalker for me okay
85:36
number nine The Phantom Menace yeah
85:41
again the only part that the movie I
85:42
remember is the final fight with qui-gon
85:44
obi-wan and Darth Maul I remember that I
85:47
remember in pod racing being really
85:49
disappointed yeah pod racing was
85:50
disappointing for me I just remember
85:53
thinking though it was well yeah but I
85:55
remember thinking it was just really
85:56
they took it to a place that was
85:58
unnecessarily juvenile life maybe yeah
86:01
Jar Jar yeah yeah just and just that was
86:04
where we got the idea of midi-chlorians
86:05
and when they retrofitted the Jedi to
86:08
make him kind of lame
86:09
you know like space jehovah's witnesses
86:12
it wasn't cool i'm a switch phantom
86:16
medicine right let's guy walking in
86:17
hindsight alright yeah it's alright
86:21
skywalker is my number nine no offense
86:23
to jehovah's witnesses it's just that
86:24
you know the Jedi were like knocking on
86:26
people's doors like do you believe in
86:27
the power of the force I mean yeah it
86:28
was weird
86:29
number eight mmm-hmm would be a range of
86:33
the Sith okay that's interesting okay
86:38
why so low I thought it was the best of
86:41
the prequels
86:42
it is so that's why it's above the other
86:44
the prequel yeah okay but my whole thing
86:46
is I really liked the final fight with
86:52
obi-wan and Anakin there are some bits
86:54
of the choreography in that film that
86:56
felt a bit over the top and unpractical
86:59
like there's a member the part where
87:01
obi-wan and Anakin are literally like
87:04
kind of nunchuck in their lightsabers
87:06
around each other for like two seconds
87:08
before me clash again it's like yeah why
87:10
is this why are you showing off really
87:12
in like this board yeah of all the
87:15
fights in the trilogy that had the most
87:17
emotional weight and it was really cool
87:19
in some parts but part the parts is
87:21
uneven miss against the Emperor was
87:22
pretty cool but the way that Palpatine
87:24
just dispatched a lot of the Jedi
87:26
Masters he wrote it with him in like one
87:29
strike like hit fist oh he's in the
87:31
Clone Wars he's voiced by Phil Lamarr
87:33
actually and the way that that kind of
87:37
happened was kind of weird to me
87:38
Anakin just being whiny mmm the senator
87:41
is evil well it from my point of view
87:43
the Jedi are evil I mean just terrible
87:46
lines yeah was the dialogue in all three
87:49
of the prequels ridiculously bad and
87:51
soullow just edges edges it out to me
87:53
mmm interesting okay fair enough
87:56
I think Solo was kind of needless but if
87:59
you take it away from the hype in the
88:03
end kind of the bad energy that the last
88:05
should I kind of yeah this eve yeah it
88:08
was pretty good I like Solo better than
88:10
I have any of the other new movies
88:13
frankly yeah yeah I felt like it was
88:17
more authentic to the tone but I don't
88:19
think it was a story we needed and it
88:20
wasn't ultimately it didn't add anything
88:22
to the character of Han Solo at all but
88:24
and enjoyable that reason I think lasted
88:28
I again just edges that out interesting
88:31
because even though I had problems with
88:32
the last Jedi I liked I was curious
88:35
about what it was gonna send him because
88:36
if you're gonna toss out bloodline at
88:38
that point and if you're gonna start
88:40
having other people like those kids mmm
88:43
be inspired again I put an article but I
88:45
was very upset that the children that
88:47
rose inspired with her hair ISM mm-hmm
88:49
we never see their fate right yeah and I
88:51
thought was wack I kind of thought
88:52
before the new trailer came out for a
88:55
Skye
88:55
I thought that maybe she would be maybe
88:58
teaching those kids like Luke started to
89:01
teach his students and maybe I thought I
89:03
told you before I thought there's gonna
89:04
be kind of a raise
89:05
mmm people against kylo and the Knights
89:08
of Ren yeah really cool yeah would have
89:13
been definitely I have to be honest I
89:15
would put that movie so much lower than
89:16
you because I hated it the plotting was
89:18
so bad and it made me angry like it was
89:20
I saw what it was trying to do but it
89:22
just did it so badly and it just did me
89:26
there was one scene in that movie that I
89:28
liked and that was when Rey and kylo
89:30
decide to like go crazy on the guards
89:34
and do their own thing and I'm like okay
89:35
this could be interesting
89:37
why are we doing why are we still paying
89:39
attention to the force however many
89:41
years later it hasn't been anybody any
89:42
good let's do something different and
89:44
then it's a fight and that's it and
89:45
there's nothing else new and that's kind
89:47
of thing I I think all the films from
89:50
last should I below all try to do
89:52
something he didn't do it well and I
89:54
think that of all them last should I was
89:57
the most was the most daring and and
90:01
even though I didn't like it
90:02
watching Raisa Skywalker it kind of made
90:06
me retro actively respect the choices
90:08
more and kind of gave me more
90:09
imagination of where things could go and
90:11
so I gave it respect I man level it's
90:13
not it's number six it's not like it's
90:15
the best okay five the force awakens
90:24
yeah I had such high hopes I did and
90:28
when I first watched it I was like like
90:32
the opening week I would like stop the
90:34
laser blast you're like Jesus Christ
90:36
yeah what are we about to get into yeah
90:38
yeah and then it just it was a new hope
90:42
only bigger and kind of different yeah
90:45
but not all that different before we go
90:48
on I want to go back to last should i
90:49
well my favorite scenes was the opening
90:51
with Poe and how he like f with hawks
90:54
like he like make that made the call to
90:56
Huck's and he's like oh yeah looks like
90:58
talking this you're there will be
91:00
no no sir no negotiation joy he's like
91:03
Hello I completely forgot about that
91:05
part and the scene where he is
91:09
there's a scene where he goes around
91:12
these two starfighters these two tie
91:14
fighters in and blasts them was such a
91:16
cool scene it just it really showed why
91:18
he was the best pilot in the galaxy Wow
91:21
okay that scene was really really cool
91:22
to see I don't remember any of that I I
91:24
would recommend like it's like it's on
91:26
Netflix now no it's not I think well
91:30
it's off now it's on what VPN you right
91:33
but yes so if you can yeah that scene
91:35
was really cool okay
91:36
see how force we can see I was fine it
91:39
has problems really again the fact that
91:41
you know rate because Oh was really
91:43
weird to me but overall it was a cool
91:46
step when it was over with I was like
91:48
okay let's see where it goes
91:50
yeah and then what I said I was kind of
91:52
like oh yeah I mean let's see I mean I
91:54
kind of want to see where this goes but
91:56
yeah I was like I was really maybe
91:59
that's why I'm not as as did she are
92:01
like about this final film as as you
92:03
were because the the thing that the last
92:05
one I did for me was just pull my
92:08
expectations down to rock bottom no mine
92:10
where to don't get me wrong but they
92:12
still mm-hmm
92:13
it was like that Malcolm in the Middle
92:15
with the do we he was like I expected
92:20
nothing but I'm still disappointed yeah
92:24
it's been dark I got you yes film right
92:27
yeah where you expect nothing but there
92:29
was one good scene in that whole film it
92:31
was a reshoot so yeah oh my homey
92:33
um John Carlos Evans he's part of black
92:36
nerd problems he was running out there
92:37
was like a Dark Phoenix seemed rude you
92:38
know
92:39
kyla and Ray are like doing that whole
92:42
kind of yelling and pulling up their
92:44
hands oh yeah transport mm-hmm
92:47
and before return the Jedi mm-hmm number
92:50
three a new hope and number two number
92:53
three I think rogue one is better
92:57
mmm I think a new hope is a classic
93:00
mm-hmm but I think it starts out really
93:03
slow like I remember when I first
93:05
watched it when I Richard it from
93:07
Hollywood video when I was 11 and I fell
93:10
asleep I think two or three times
93:12
mmm before I actually sat down and
93:14
watched the whole thing I did you live
93:17
though because this is something I've
93:18
often wondered about myself you will
93:20
lived oh you were in st. Louis time
93:21
right okay
93:21
so when I first saw it we had lived in
93:24
Arizona for a minute so it was something
93:26
kind of cool to me but I think it's just
93:28
a personal thing but I think it was
93:29
something cool to me about seeing all
93:30
that desert as like a fantasy setting
93:32
mm-hmm yeah I don't know something yeah
93:35
I don't know it really I don't know
93:36
a new hope would be maybe tied with
93:39
rogue one for me or maybe slightly over
93:41
it
93:41
I mean yeah I mean it isn't like New
93:44
Hope is again December 3 it's not God
93:45
it's not bad it mighty means it's very
93:47
good yeah it's good but yeah I think it
93:50
doesn't really pick up until I think a
93:53
new hope and rug one complement each
93:55
other perfectly which i think is really
93:56
difficult to do because but I think you
93:58
have to have seen a new hope to
93:59
understand just how wild that final seam
94:02
of Darth Vader at the end actually it is
94:04
what ham yo cuz you know he's scary in
94:07
the beginning of a new hope but you're
94:09
like okay but then you don't really see
94:11
him do anything too terrible that he
94:12
kind of forced chokes a guy I maybe was
94:14
tired I mean he just killed everybody I
94:17
mean yeah so you know you don't really
94:19
see them do anything too wild but then
94:21
you know that the mucosa Vader is built
94:23
up through the whole rest of that
94:25
trilogy and then you see rogue one and
94:26
you're like aha
94:27
now that's how you retrofit something
94:29
and make it make sense yes so because of
94:32
all that all that where the rogue one
94:34
had to do I mean it was a movie that did
94:36
even I mean if you don't count Vader it
94:38
wasn't reliant on the force I mean of
94:40
course you know it was great
94:44
I'm so sad we had to wait 30 years to
94:46
get Donnie yet you know in a Star Wars
94:48
movie he should have been in the first
94:49
well was he around yeah he was he should
94:51
have been in the first one so yeah so
94:53
what was number two and I think almost
94:55
everyone well universities say that
94:57
Empire Strikes Back
94:58
it totally is it's the only one that I
95:01
regularly rewatch it really holds that I
95:03
will say this also about rogue one is
95:05
that I so I'm not I'll maybe watch one
95:09
trailer or two trailers but I was so
95:11
disappointed in the way that the Star
95:13
Wars films were going and I was really
95:15
annoyed at what I perceived to be a
95:17
Disney moneygrab by making like extra
95:19
Star Wars story movies but I didn't know
95:21
anything about rogue one when I went to
95:23
see it and that's part of why I liked it
95:24
so much is that it it surprised me I
95:26
didn't know what it was I didn't realize
95:27
I already knew what the story was until
95:30
I was about thirty minutes into the
95:31
movie and I was like oh
95:33
oh this is that and when you see it
95:35
fresh like that it's a really good film
95:37
yeah so that's part of why I liked it so
95:40
much also yeah totally and I think
95:43
that's what these new Star Wars films
95:44
are missing the hype machines so big
95:46
around Star Wars that even if you try to
95:48
go into it without knowing anything you
95:49
want to be fresh you want to really see
95:51
a new story it's hard to do that and
95:53
with force awakens I mean that was one
95:56
that's that was one of the big events
95:59
where I was like I can't watch her was
96:00
anymore mm-hmm because you try to sell
96:03
me on this brother as being a Jedi you
96:05
put in you put in the poster even I cape
96:07
and avoid that mhm and you lied to me so
96:09
and then you have this hype machine now
96:12
of JJ Abrams oh yeah me and Ryan justify
96:14
it are totally fine I totally you know
96:16
we sync the movie everything's great
96:17
that's all these lies around this
96:19
product I just I don't like the
96:22
marketing machine anymore yeah I don't
96:24
want yeah because and because it's not
96:26
focused on any of the things that are
96:27
actually good about the property as well
96:29
so like more even in it yeah right
96:31
exactly
96:32
mm-hm totally anything else no yeah I
96:38
your list is interesting thank you I
96:42
hope you watch Clone Wars before we talk
96:45
again I'll go back I mean I saw the
96:47
first season ages ago I watched it with
96:49
with some kids I know well that sounds
96:52
creepy in retrospect that's not meant to
96:53
be creepy I was babysitting I was big I
96:55
was babysitting okay I wasn't just like
96:57
come here little boy I have Star Wars
96:59
not like that make anyone was gonna take
97:02
it there but good yeah but just in case
97:04
um but yeah so I saw the first season
97:08
but I haven't watched any more of it I
97:09
probably should get back into it cuz it
97:11
does sound really good and I remember
97:13
watching it was really good if I seems
97:15
brah it's just been incredible like time
97:18
man there's like eighty two seasons of
97:19
extra Star Wars stuff and there's books
97:21
and there's other ones there's there's
97:23
so much stuff out there now there's so
97:25
much good I mean the fantasy world I
97:27
love that fantasy is popular again but
97:29
it's there's so much stuff to get into
97:31
and so much stuff I'm waiting for that
97:33
is yeah well keep mine then the last
97:36
season of Clone Wars comes out next year
97:38
and we're probably that's to talk about
97:40
you caught up yeah definitely yeah but
97:42
in the meantime I you know watching The
97:44
Witcher I am I when I watched last
97:49
should I had to cleanse my palate and I
97:51
just rewatch Clone Wars rebels again oh
97:52
I feel like I'm probably gonna do the
97:54
same with this movie cool ok The Witcher
97:57
huh I like it yeah yeah I don't care
98:00
that there's inclusion of pocs or
98:02
whatever it's still severely white but
98:04
it's a good story it's just fantasy
98:05
meathead stuff it's run it's not people
98:08
are comparing it to Game of Thrones
98:09
which isn't fair because first of all
98:11
Game of Thrones was an even game of
98:12
Thrones by the end and second it's just
98:17
not the same story it's a lot more basic
98:19
Game of Thrones was trying to be a
98:21
subversion reversion reboot of so many
98:23
fantasy tropes whereas The Witcher is
98:25
basically like okay here's a guy who
98:27
does magic things he goes and fights
98:29
magic things and at the end he gets the
98:32
girl kind of the end right like it's
98:34
just it's not that deep okay it's just
98:37
fun mmm well anyway people out there we
98:43
have gone over way over to ever time let
98:46
us know what you all think of Star Wars
98:49
rise of Skywalker are you all interested
98:52
in seeing more movies are we full of
98:54
crap sorry what do you think of our rank
99:01
how would you rank the eleven films have
99:03
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99:05
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99:08
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99:11
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99:13
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99:19
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99:20
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99:21
I am Brendan Thank You Mel yo thank you
99:26
happy New Year to everybody yeah Happy
99:28
New Year we we managed to do this before
99:30
the new year so would you trust me it's
99:32
all love cuz I don't know if I would
99:34
have lasted through this whole movie
99:35
without you yeah take care yo peace
99:39
peace 

Brendon
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