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Brendon and I'm joined by what do we do
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last time rapper DJ actor model I mean
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do what what don't you do I don't know
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cook very well really yeah don't I'm
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okay word yeah I see working on that as
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like one of my new is my New Year's
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resolutions
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the post was yeah was one one new recipe
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a week or something trying to two new
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meals a month to a month okay's what I
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end up doing like five so that's cool I
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was always in the oven oven chef no and
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so without having a full-size oven it's
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been difficult for me I feel yeah yeah
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before we get too deep into that please
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welcome Jack Zilla
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thank you thank you thank you very much
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for having me as always I appreciate it
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yeah he had a great time on the last
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show we talked about where we thought
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hip hop was going but this show is about
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our favorite albums of the past decade
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right it was really an impossible task
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but we tried to narrow them down to 10
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seriously like I even tried to even try
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to find one per decade that I liked but
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then I was like wait but I really like
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in 2013 I mean one year within the
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decade and I was like but not really
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like 2012 2013 so I had it was it was
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rough man
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quite the task well we'll give our
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honorable mentions and all that
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before we get into that let's just talk
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about last decade you know there's a lot
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of older heads you know this right this
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rap sucks now it's all about the
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trash
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happen all about blah blah blah but I
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don't know your fins on it but I thought
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this was really an amazing decade if not
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the best in rap so far right like if to
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me the the I guess late 80s to mid 90s
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is the epitome it's the peak of hip-hop
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for me so far but that would be
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immediately followed by the 2010s and I
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think just as far as the amount of
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variety that we saw in this decade you
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know from the the trap to the more emo
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side of things or the you know the more
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socially conscious like it was all there
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the youth kind of you know went from you
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know it was kind of a stereotype that
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when younger rappers will come out they
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would just be wild and only party but
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you see a lot of the younger rappers
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coming out with more introspective type
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songs you know wouldn't you know from
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the 2010s like so that yeah I think this
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would be my second favorite decade so
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far to me it's it's kind of like I start
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about this as you were talking it's like
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beetle games these days there are these
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you know people complain about you know
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all these games are just shooters now
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but there's so much variety out there
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there are blockbuster shooters there are
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blockbuster action games there are
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blockbuster horror games but they're
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also these indie games that are really
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tiny 16-bit 8-bit etc like there's still
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80s 90s sounding boom-bap out there
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they're still you know your premiere
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produced albums and Pete Rock Skyzoo
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like kind of carrying that mantle right
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but as you said there's so much more
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variety now and so anyone who still
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holds this grudge against this
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generation in this past decade you just
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you aren't listening hard enough I think
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the beauty of this decade
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comes from the ease of creating music
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now that everybody can you know have
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their own home studio with that you know
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where they can create you know pretty
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decent sounding music and I in also
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distribution right Mike you know there's
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some soundcloud has taken our hip hop
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genre to an entirely different
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level and you know we no longer need to
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press CDs we no longer need these large
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Rabil you know record labels
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redistribution these gatekeepers exactly
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you know they can we can cut out the
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middleman now and go straight to the
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people and I think that has helped
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elevate the art a lot over the past
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decade and it's also just more black
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ownership even with labels right right
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right
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TDE is such a Goliath now dreamville of
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course and being independent is no
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longer like being a unicorn you know
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what I mean like being independent is
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now the desired status versus you know
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the previous decade where being signed
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was what everybody wanted to be they
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wanted that signing bonus right they
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wanted to you know oh I'm signed to this
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record label now I got a Lambo you know
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I mean that was that was the status
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symbol now it's I own my Master's I oh
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you know I get all of my money from my
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touring you know that's that's the
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status and I think that's where I was
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supposed to head this whole time yeah
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totally I wanted to do a show about our
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favorite rap albums of last year but you
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said you weren't really keeping touch
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with that you're busy you're busy doing
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everything last last year you've been
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how many movies you've been in I mean so
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far nine Jesus and nine nine movies and
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just recently one TV show you were a
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picture right right right I saw that you
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were in city girls it's like a tattoo
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artist right yeah wasn't city girl no
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girl cops JD the tattoo artists that's
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cool that's real cool the happy
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tattooist cool yeah yeah last year was
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probably one of my least favorite years
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for rap mm-hmm there was some great
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stuff don't get me wrong but compared to
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for me
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I think rap really hit its stride last
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decade dozen twelve yeah and it kinda
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for me peaked 2018 like that that
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six-year run was just like just amazing
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stuff just R&B; - which we'll get to a
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little bit later on - did you hear the
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Billy woods hiding-place album I haven't
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it's the super it's a very kind of dark
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nihilistic personal but also just kind
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of a macro perspective one on life like
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what I favorite lines from it was about
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health care and he said I got a letter
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from the government the other day I
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opened it and read it said it wasn't
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covered you know so before we get into
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the decade stuff I wouldn't give a
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shout-out to that album specifically I
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really liked Kate Renata's album Bubba
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that was part of my favorite albums
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because it was just just happy like last
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year was such a dark was such a bad year
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and to end with Bubba was really nice
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for me for me if I if I had to talk
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about last year and a group that I you
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know I really really wish I could have
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put one of their albums in my top ten
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but I just in fairness they really
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really emerged last year which was a
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Grizelda oh yeah yeah and you know what
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I gun Benny the butcher calmly like
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those three dudes kind of took hip-hop
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by storm brought it back to that mid-90s
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essence they you know like a wu-tang
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feel right well you know if you listen
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to you know the interviews like what
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Saigon credits the wu-tang for you know
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being their inspiration in general even
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I think Raekwon did the intro to their
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most recent album but um like they
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they're sound
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to be honest I'm addicted to what
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they're to their production right now
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they're really in the temple really dark
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yet there's man gritty like that to me
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they they might just mark a period in
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time if we pay closer attention to
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what's going to come 2020 I'm you know I
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know we're going to talk about what we
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hope for in the next decade later but I
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think if I think with the amount of
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steam that they have I think they're
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going to mark a period of time and a
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different kind of shift where you know
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the grimy rap has holds a different type
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of weight than it then it used to it
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doesn't have to be
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you know I mean like normally people
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would associate this type of dark grimy
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wrapped with Oh be careful around those
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guys you can't go to their concert
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you're gonna get shot up
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versus I think it's gonna start being
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you know this is what it is this is that
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reality they make good music coming from
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this and it doesn't have to be this I
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don't know I just feel some sort of
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growth is gonna come out of this and so
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there are different types of dudes that
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you know they got their clothing label
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that sells out every time they drop
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something they're just different man and
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I really like them I wish I could have
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put them in my in my top ten but just
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just because they just really started
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blowing up I didn't think it was fair I
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feel that I really like that album for
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sure I like everything they put out my
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favorite is my favorite is still the
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West Side doom tracks like a Gorilla
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Monsoon whoo that's my song literally I
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probably listened to that song probably
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10 times 15 times a week that's a good
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joint that's that's my that's one of my
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favorite ghazal de tracks period I
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remember when I first heard that song it
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it hit me pretty hard it's like the the
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collabs
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some favorite collabs of the decade was
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that one and between villains captain
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Murphy as much sure of doom I love that
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song great
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and to put that in my notes who listened
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to that on the way home I love that song
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hell yeah that's one thing that making
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this list was really good for is a
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reminded me of songs that I haven't
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heard in a while okay let's get started
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just let you guys know I didn't really
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rank these I think my number my top
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three or it for sure my top one is
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definitely my top line same here yeah
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but all these you could put them
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anywhere they were they were all just
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fantastic records you'll know first time
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you go first
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how are we gonna do this one in one yeah
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alright you can go first okay I'm gonna
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start off with it's kind of a tie but
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I'm going to give it to the former and
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that's until the quiet comes and you're
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dead by Flying Lotus a lot of people
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will argue that cosmic grammar is his
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best album it it was kind of fly low
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doing a dissertation exploring like
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every electronic Jean
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but there's something kind of appealing
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about the focus of his later two albums
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and you're dead really hit me hard
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because it it was dedicated to death and
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not necessarily being afraid of it well
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there are songs about being afraid of it
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but also kind of embracing it and being
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inspired to just be better while you're
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here right and to also just not be
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afraid when you go to write never catch
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me by Kendrick Lamar is still my
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favorite song of the decade I mean we'll
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talk about him a little later I'm sure
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but that song specifically in that video
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shot by was it hero who died the the
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director who did Atlanta just amazing
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video salines this is America right yes
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yes so I mean he he came up to write
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mm-hmm yeah your debts such a great
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record yeah I agree I you know when um
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when your dead came out I wasn't really
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I had heard of fly low like I wasn't too
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big up on him but I went back and dug
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into his this discography after that it
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was like okay yes I know I know that I
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knew the family like I knew Thundercat
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like I knew these guys you know but I
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wasn't too big on him but you're dead
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like you said had such a big impact I
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think on me musically and you know that
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I discovered captain Murphy at that
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point is like you know this is this is
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the sound right now that's exactly what
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I wanted to hear it fit that time that
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time period that 2014 it was perfect for
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that absolutely and you know like you
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said you never catch me that that video
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there was something about it you know
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the kids dancing you know throughout the
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entire video it was just it was touching
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and had a really dark and slightly
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morbid theme but there was just
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something that was so attractive about
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it that you know you couldn't take your
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eyes off and you found yourself watching
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it over and over and over again for
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those who've never never seen the video
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it's there's a funeral and there are two
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kids dead and everyone's just sad and
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not really moving is very stoic and in
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the middle of a song the kids kind of
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come alive and start dancing and I'm
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assuming that's is their spirits
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coming alive and dancing and they're not
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mourning their own death which is just a
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amazing Chuck's position about how we
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see it while we're on this plane of
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existence and yes you said just really
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inspiring really really moving video
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Laura just just just black excellence
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all around absolutely
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and that verse Mackendrick was just wow
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just Kendrick we'll get there we'll get
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there well my number one is you know
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could staying in that family I guess is
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uh camasta Washington 2018 out of them
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heaven and earth that is my favorite
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album absolutely of the past ten years
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period wow I can listen to that album
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eyes closed
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straight through not fall asleep not get
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bored just every single song hits me in
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a different way even though you know
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simply because of the this his style of
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music and his band each song sounds a
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little bit similar but they each sound
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they each flow is it's like a movie like
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listening listening to that album it's
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like watching a movie
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the epic his 2016 album is the same way
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but this one just it hit me I was
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fortunate enough to see him live last
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year and yes 24 and man like brought me
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to tears not joking I was right in the
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front row my wife bought me a seat the
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last front row seat sitting right in the
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front and just watching him play he's a
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master brought his father out again I
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sat right in front of Patrice Quinn
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while she's you know dancing like Groot
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the entire time singing you know like
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that that album itself my Street Fighter
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mas mm-hmm I've probably you know I
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probably have used a month worth a
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month's worth of data just streaming
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that song alone Street Fighter Maas and
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the music video was great too as well
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has the whole family and it Thunder cats
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in there you know riding through riding
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with the the drop-top playing Street
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Fighter it actually made me go and play
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Street Fighter at a local bar that I
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like to have they actually have the
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Street Fighter sticks and so it was like
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man I want to go play and my buddy Jay
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the magician whoops me every single time
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I don't know why but yeah I love that
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that's that's my number one my top album
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of the entire decade are we starting off
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with the top the decade just happen to
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be my first you know the these are the
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undeniable okay these are the ones that
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that we have no questions about got it
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I I have that album I listen to the epic
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in 2015 that was that was a really great
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great album I honestly haven't listened
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to it to heaven earth that much so I
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will revisit it probably just going home
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today
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yeah I saw him live two years ago cuz he
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came last year but I was busy but last
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year I saw him and he was he was him the
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whole band was fantastic yeah they're
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just it's like watching the John
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Coltrane of our time exactly that you
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know he was touring this year with my
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favorite musician of all time little
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Jack trivia Herbie Hancock and if I
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could have gone to any one concert in
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the entire world that year that would
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have been it my current favorite jazz
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musician and my favorite musician of all
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time together was like a dream come true
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yeah and then I think at some point they
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brought Robert Glasper with them to
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which Oh word can you imagine that
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that's right c'mon see Washington Robert
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Glasper and Herbie Hancock in the same
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place that's nuts my next album Odyssey
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the iceberg okay and you were and you
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and you inspire me to do this you I had
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a list and you sent me yours and I was
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like it wasn't this album but I was like
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man I remember I listened to both of
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them and I really my first foray into
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writing and blogging I wrote for a now
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gone website called net sidebar and in
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the good fight was in my top 15 of 2015
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but the iceberg if you combine the best
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of both albums I think you'd be top
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three albums of the decade but Odyssey
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it's like when we we talk about Kanye as
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the greatest rapper producer and rap but
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we gotta talk about us you have to add
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him in that in that category in that
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conversation I've been listening to him
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since college and it's been doped to
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watch his artistic journey and the
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iceberg is just an incredibly
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introspective positive and beautifully
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orchestrated album
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this Odyssey is just such a real dude
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yeah did you weren't here when he he
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played live here I was out of town I
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wanted to go it was just an amazing show
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and he's just a really great guy humble
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guy he's religiously Muslim and while
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it's not in his rhymes like you you feel
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the love and the lessons that he's
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learned from life as well as his his
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discipline him his focus and it's like
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people look up to certain rappers but
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for me he's a person that I would choose
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more than anyone else in the game
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personally mm-hmm for me the iceberg so
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what you're referring to I had a I had
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Odyssey him I have Odyssey and my
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honorable mentions yeah and specifically
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I had the good fight
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and it was so difficult to choose
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between those two albums for saying the
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iceberg right now is in my it's in my
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driving rotation like it's been there
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for since it came out it hasn't come out
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but the good fight for me just kind of I
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don't know it was a it was a I don't I
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don't even know how to really separate
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them I just know that the good fight had
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more songs on it that I found myself
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coming back to sure you know the iceberg
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album you know I play a thing that's
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that scenes yeah things is my favorite
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song on that album period like I've
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actually I'm I have a CD player in my
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car and so I still have to burn CDs and
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that one is on so many of my my driving
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albums right that's so driving makes it
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so that's that song and you know there
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are several songs on there again and it
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just flow yeah it just flows straight
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through he got some Go Go and I'm from
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I'm from Maryland so I'm from the DMV so
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some of the songs that he's put on all
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of the albums actually have our hometown
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sound on it and I you know I just love
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it I've always been a fan of his like
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his back and with his old crew like when
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he used to rock with anonymous and the
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old days like I've always been a big
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Odyssey fan but so I had to include him
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in there somehow but I just couldn't it
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was so difficult to take him out of my
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top ten but I had to be honest with
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myself there was there were not there
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were ten other albums that I thought
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were better and all my listen I think
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the thing that pushed over for me was
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again you talked
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what the sound is of the decade and I
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just loved the live instrumentation on
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the album and you grew up it's such a
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well-timed song that came out during the
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fight against Trump's Muslim ban the
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empathy he feels for everyone who falls
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to extremism is powerful you know in
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2017 when this album came out was
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probably the height of cancel' culture
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and to be brave with that take meant a
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lot to me just so many gems of that
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album you know I remember when I
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discovered purpose I was good at
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something finally worth it I mean that
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stuff just he just he's just such an
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inspiring figure like for me and I'll
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talk about this a little later on in the
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show but this last decade seems to be
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defined by prosperity rap outrage pain
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mental health and to just have this kind
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of consistent light in the industry it's
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just such an we really need it mm-hmm I
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agree well staying and staying I guess
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in that range of mental health and
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everything my second the second so I'm
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on the list the second album of the list
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was Kid Cudi's indicud and I guess that
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album I mean it's a great album but it
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also was very personal to me it
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represented a specific transitional
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period of my life I came to Korea in
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2010 as a teacher and 2013 was the year
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when I was transitioning transitioning
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out of teaching and it was rough you
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know I was I had you know I ran out of
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that that pinch of money burns quickly
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you know I ran out of money I didn't
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really have much going on and just that
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dark sound that deep sound that
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introspective sound that you know that
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times when I was doubting myself and
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doubting what was going on
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Kid Cudi somehow naturally spoke to it
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whether it was through his you know his
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bouts with substance abuse or whether it
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was just songs like unfuckable or you
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know certain other things but for some
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reason that album just hit so hard as
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many of his other albums do again it was
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it was a struggle choosing which of his
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albums I want to drink like I wanted to
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do man on the moon
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to mr. rager that was a that was another
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album that really hit hard for me but I
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just think this one had more songs on it
22:23
that I find myself again going back to
22:26
it's an album that I can listen to to
22:29
this day from front to back without you
22:31
know without skipping anything
22:33
Kid Cudi period you know if you've had
22:36
any would you have but if anybody has
22:38
had any online discourse with me about
22:39
hip hop you know Kid Cudi is one of my
22:41
favorite artists in the world period
22:42
okay and he you know he speaks to a lot
22:47
of things that I feel strongly about and
22:49
he represents a the type of person that
22:52
I think a lot of people could you know
22:54
strive to be as far especially if you've
22:56
had any issues with substance substance
22:58
abuse in the past or any kind of mental
23:00
health issues that you've had trouble
23:01
getting over he's kind of a role model
23:03
for a lot of us you know even though
23:05
it's considered emo rap it's a lot more
23:08
a lot more introspective I've called it
23:10
emo rap myself and it kind of is you
23:12
know but you know hey I might be an
23:14
emotional dude whatever that's okay
23:17
shout out to CJ I'm not gonna lie to you
23:22
I've never heard this out before what
23:24
and to be honest to be even more honest
23:27
I don't really have never really
23:29
listened to Cuddy that much I think I've
23:30
listened to man on the moon one time the
23:34
first one I don't even remember I can't
23:36
even tell you which I have or haven't
23:38
listened to the only thing that I
23:40
remember listen to and I listen to a bit
23:41
when it came out with kids he goes okay
23:43
and I like that out but obviously I
23:46
think that's very different from his
23:47
solo projects but again that's another
23:50
one I wouldn't listen to you I will I
23:51
will look it up for sure definitely I
23:52
you know if you're gonna listen to if
23:54
you're gonna go back and check them out
23:55
I recommend listening listening to them
23:57
in order man and the one man in the moon
23:59
- and then indicud because the you'll
24:03
then you'll understand kids he ghost
24:05
actually a bit better and why people
24:07
kind of gravitate towards a specific
24:10
part of that album okay and kind of
24:12
ignore another oh the hum humming the
24:16
right thing about Cudi and maybe
24:17
something I have to just get over is
24:19
kind of the monotone it's a psychically
24:23
a little hard for me to get into but I'm
24:24
gonna try to listen to it
24:27
it's not all monotone okay okay it'd
24:30
mean a lot of it is the humming is not
24:32
the issue
24:32
but I remember I heard one album it was
24:34
just kind of very dead kind of like it's
24:38
like as an acidic I'm assuming that it's
24:44
it's symbolic of maybe his emotions in a
24:48
way and so I understand it it's like I
24:50
get the concept I guess I need to listen
24:52
to it a few more times to really let it
24:54
sink in because as a person like I
24:56
remembered he did an interview where he
24:58
was talking about how he's ruined
25:02
relationships like with women and stuff
25:03
and rely and finally realized and put it
25:05
out like if this was my fault
25:07
and I need to own that and again in this
25:12
decade admitting men black men
25:14
especially admitting their false their
25:16
their weaknesses I think it's a very
25:18
powerful thing a very liberating thing
25:20
and so I I do and give him another
25:21
chance
25:24
yeah I will going on with substance
25:29
abuse I'm gonna go with Mac Miller okay
25:33
and another tie sorry I'm cheating here
25:35
but faces and delusional Thomas first
25:39
and foremost rest in peace Mac Miller
25:40
rest in peace I can't think of another
25:43
rapper who has such a complicated arc
25:45
and just development this past decade
25:48
really any deck I can't think of any rap
25:51
any artist who's gone through what he's
25:53
gone through
25:54
he went from kind of frat rap to just
25:57
this Neil ISM to I'm in love with love
26:00
and everything's great to just crashing
26:03
mmm and this may be controversial but
26:08
for me druggie Neela sigmak was my
26:11
favorite version of him I mean as a
26:14
person I want him to be clean and happy
26:15
of course I wanted him to be clean and
26:17
happy but because his mind and lyrics
26:20
wander off topic even on some of his
26:22
more serious tracks on later albums
26:25
I feel like this kind of circa 2013 14
26:29
pocket was really his lane one of his
26:33
one you know one of his biggest tracks
26:34
is self-care from the Swimming album and
26:38
you know he you have a line like can
26:41
trust number one can't even trust
26:43
yourself yeah and that's a line you
26:45
really feel but it follows up with tell
26:47
them they can take that
26:49
elsewhere when it comes to introspection
26:51
there are a number of rappers who handle
26:54
it with the deft or hand and so again I
26:57
kind of liked where he wasn't this time
26:59
so really from the beginning of 2013 to
27:02
14 I was coming through a job change and
27:04
a breakup which were both very stressful
27:07
maybe I really messed me up and his
27:09
string of releases you know watch movies
27:10
with the sound turned off and delusional
27:12
Thomas followed by faces was just an
27:14
incredible three-piece combo but I found
27:16
myself listening to the ladder to the
27:18
most I can't think of more irreverent
27:21
nihilistic albums besides oblivion
27:24
access by little ugly Mane hell if
27:26
you've heard that or not yeah I think I
27:28
think it's it's a crazy album anyway
27:32
when you put these albums on you're
27:35
really like transported into like a
27:38
different universe particularly with
27:40
delusional Thomas led it's like a it's
27:42
Quasimodo voiced horrorcore which for
27:45
those who don't know it's a lost
27:46
sub-genre of rap you know dr. octagon
27:48
from the mid 90s but the beats are so
27:51
haunting and Atmospheric there's a line
27:55
where Mack says he just wanted to get
27:56
high and forget what day it is and for
28:00
me at that time that's how I felt for a
28:02
long time and that that left a big
28:04
impact on me for a long time I have a
28:05
mix under my falseface Mixcloud page
28:08
where I have a lot of those two albums
28:11
in that mix to be totally honest I never
28:14
really got into Mac Miller much I
28:17
respect him he's an artist too where I
28:18
can listen to the music somebody else
28:20
plays him if he comes on but I don't
28:22
find myself reaching to press play for
28:24
Mac Miller much I it's it's my fault
28:29
because honestly when he came out I had
28:32
had a misconception about him I you know
28:34
he was I to me he was like oh you know
28:36
this guy he's trying to be a shore off I
28:38
was an astronaut fan okay and you know
28:41
that's that's um
28:43
that's unfair you know just because he's
28:44
a white rapper and and I connected him
28:46
with Asher Roth cuz the frat rap thing
28:49
but he grew to be so much more than that
28:53
and you know was it watching movies with
28:55
the sound off there were a lot of tracks
28:58
on that one I like yeah my favorite is
29:00
still complexes in duplexes with Jay
29:02
Electronica yeah that that's one that I
29:06
do go back to honestly because of a huge
29:08
day like fan but that's the one that
29:10
made me decide to listen to Mac Miller
29:13
further and so again that after
29:16
listening to that song I was like all
29:17
right let me check him out and then I
29:19
liked I liked what I heard I just didn't
29:21
find myself going to even this latest
29:23
album that everybody raved about you
29:25
know I did in circles circles right I
29:26
didn't find myself going you know I
29:29
didn't find myself in a hurry to listen
29:30
to it I played it in the background
29:32
while I was doing other stuff before his
29:33
like you know it was a good vibe but I
29:35
didn't really pay too much attention to
29:37
it that's not to say that I don't
29:38
respect them it was a good visor I got
29:40
my I got my work done okay
29:42
I didn't hear one word that he said okay
29:45
the music the instrumentation you know
29:48
and him being such a dope producer too
29:50
you know I mean like that says says a
29:53
lot about where his head was like the
29:55
vibe that he could create so yeah
29:57
respect him a lot I just you know I
29:59
can't call myself a true fan of his yeah
30:02
I think if you're a fan of Cudi that all
30:06
the album's are just the tracks where
30:08
he's a little more introspective about
30:09
himself and like on watching movies was
30:13
called objects in the mirror great song
30:16
I mean self care so good to hurt
30:19
feelings even that that opening song
30:22
when swimming I forgot the the song's
30:23
name but he put out some really great
30:26
stuff alright so my next one just let's
30:31
get us out of this this dark this dark
30:34
zone is actually goldlink the god
30:36
complex from 2014 and this may not
30:42
actually be golden links best project
30:44
but this was the one that actually
30:45
introduced me to the entire selection
30:47
family so this is the one that I kind of
30:50
credit for giving me I guess introducing
30:53
me to that entire world everyone from
30:56
from goldlink to lock him to you know I
30:59
mean that their whole crew that you know
31:02
Kate Renata
31:03
Shango like they have the I think
31:06
probably the best sound and they're
31:07
probably the best collective right now
31:09
mr. Carmack like Carmack is one of my
31:12
favorite producers period at that future
31:15
bounce yeah man like all of that they
31:18
introduced me to Rayven Lynnae like they
31:20
introduced me to Apple be like there's
31:21
so many artists that I've learned about
31:24
through them and so I have to give some
31:27
sort of recognition to selection and so
31:30
I chose the god complex
31:31
I guess not only because it was the
31:33
first and my first introduction to them
31:35
but it was a great introduction that is
31:39
that's my summer go to like and you know
31:41
am in my car with the with the you know
31:44
sunroof back windows down in a paradise
31:47
driving is phat oh man come on like that
31:49
entire album to me from front to back
31:51
it's another one you know lock him did
31:54
so oh my goodness like him is such a
31:56
great producer and then the first one
31:58
produced by finger lake right I haven't
32:00
I don't know much more produced by him
32:02
actually looked him up yesterday to see
32:04
what else he's been doing but that one
32:06
song was you know it was a bedtime story
32:08
thing I can't remember which one it was
32:10
but like that entire project was great
32:13
and he's produced several of the great
32:15
projects since then and like I said
32:16
probably better projects musically but
32:19
that one just stuck to me that's my
32:21
that's my go-to Golding project I think
32:23
because I've heard all the other ones I
32:25
didn't hear a diaspora I heard it once
32:27
but I didn't really like return to it
32:28
but I feel bad about that I wanted that
32:30
was it that was a great that was
32:31
probably a better project than this one
32:33
actually not probably it was okay but
32:35
sonically and everything but I guess
32:37
emote or like me not emotionally but
32:38
like as far as feeling and as far as
32:40
beat and energy this is the one yeah
32:43
they got it was only like nine tracks to
32:44
write it was really short it was short
32:46
and sweet but yet every song was a
32:48
banker I remember when it came out I
32:49
listened to that album all the time all
32:52
the time and that and that was in my
32:55
honorable mentions it just got edged out
32:57
I was feel guilty about that but it's
33:01
okay you take it for us we actually
33:03
talked before we did this show you're
33:04
talking about how we didn't want to kind
33:05
of have too many duplicates so that's
33:08
I'll just write off you're off your off
33:11
your vibe there
33:13
keeping with that kind of good vibe
33:15
Cimino Black Swan so like I talked about
33:20
like this deck has been such a
33:21
nihilistic even when we're listening to
33:25
trap records about dancing and having a
33:28
good time it's still kind of this whole
33:30
prosperity rap I'm dope at your expense
33:34
you know me and I'll shoot you
33:36
I'm great because I sold drugs and I'm
33:38
it's just it's just it's kind of baggage
33:40
to this fun baggage to this this good
33:43
time and for me more than any other
33:46
album Black Swan just exudes that black
33:49
boy joy vibe that is caught on in our
33:52
culture for a time and even now I still
33:55
struggle with like being comfortable and
33:56
confident in myself but it's inspiring
33:58
to see me know from my hometown st.
34:00
Louis just effortless just effortless
34:03
I came left you can't say that word it's
34:07
a difficult one a night just
34:09
effortlessly there you go do it here
34:12
he just has fun talking about living
34:15
life even raps about sex aren't like
34:18
disrespectful like a lot of rap records
34:22
are people love Drake Infante for a
34:25
transitioning from singing to rapping
34:27
but the way Cimino does it on his songs
34:29
it's like it's like a dolphin playing in
34:32
and out the water he just does it so
34:34
seamlessly and just what he can do with
34:36
his mouth it's great I just love what
34:39
the Midwest has produced this whole
34:41
decade no name you know shoutout to that
34:44
telephone as an honorable mention chance
34:46
Saba who will get to Sango
34:49
Felix Raven Lynnae Jamila woods there's
34:52
nothing else sounds like them right now
34:54
I just love the fun and positivity from
34:57
that collective right I want more music
35:01
like this in the next decade for sure
35:03
I'm looking forward to that Sabah no
35:05
name
35:05
Smee no collab project get Osage ma'am
35:08
look definitely looking forward that
35:10
they're like the next table planets
35:12
right
35:13
I love Black Swan Black Swan was a great
35:16
album it's another one of my study
35:18
albums this one I actually do listen to
35:20
on purpose but to me
35:23
Nora was just a little bit better
35:25
I guess but I guess I listen to them for
35:28
two different reasons like I said the
35:31
Black Swan is a very chill just
35:33
laid-back album but Swanson had a lot of
35:35
bangers on it like had a lot of songs
35:37
that I could dance to I could you know I
35:39
mean like that was my wake up in the
35:42
morning and I play songs based on my
35:45
exactly what I'm doing at that moment so
35:47
I play songs like clink for example that
35:49
was my you know wake up in the morning
35:51
getting breakfast ready kind of you know
35:53
I mean I need that energy no it's it's a
35:56
great album it was on my favorites of
35:58
kasnia teen was like my number four of
36:00
the year and it's fantastic record like
36:02
I could I learned I actually learned
36:04
Cimino's another artist that I learned
36:06
through Monta Booker from selection the
36:09
joint that he did with Monta Booker
36:11
that's where I learned about some you
36:12
know yeah and but from every single song
36:17
that I've heard of his I've liked yeah
36:19
like every single one and that's a
36:22
rarity there's been there's not been one
36:25
song on any of his albums on you know
36:27
any of his singles on any of his Lucy's
36:29
on any collaboration anything that he
36:31
touches it just sounds amazing
36:33
I completely agree so I really I really
36:36
like some you know I look forward to
36:37
seeing a lot more from him in the future
36:39
I hope he can blow up to be yeah I mean
36:42
as big as all the the rest of these
36:43
artists that we look at now your party
36:45
next doors you know you're you know the
36:47
these guys from Canada who we all look
36:50
at for a similar sound
36:51
I think Smee knows better than all of
36:53
them to be perfectly honest yeah I mean
36:55
again I'm from st. Louis and who's our
36:57
most favorite famous rapper Nelly and
36:59
obviously he's not Nelly I don't want
37:02
him I don't want to say like he's the
37:03
next Nelly but I definitely want the
37:05
world to know his name and in love his
37:07
music
37:07
mm-hm so shout out to Cimino definitely
37:10
definitely well I guess then the next
37:13
one that I chose is I guess I called him
37:17
every nerds hero childish gambino okay
37:19
charters can be you know for me is the
37:22
epitome of nerd rap like he they will
37:25
the album first of all the album is
37:26
because the internet just came out in
37:28
2013
37:29
yeah and I called him every nerds hero
37:31
because he kind of made it cool to be
37:35
intelligent and you know in some circles
37:37
right he
37:38
he made it cool to rap with you know
37:40
proper diction if you're from the south
37:42
he made it cool to not have to speak
37:44
about speaking violent terms if you're
37:47
from the South like he opened up an
37:49
entire world I mean not not saying it
37:52
didn't already exist but he kind of
37:54
popularized it I think and you know I
37:57
give a lot of a lot of a lot of credit
37:59
to Childish Gambino for that and because
38:01
the Internet is the album that really
38:03
you know I guess kind of expressed a lot
38:06
of the a lot of that to you know to the
38:09
world I give him a lot of respect I
38:10
would argue that Lupe probably did it
38:13
first not in the south but just
38:15
popularizing nerd rap kick pushes a big
38:18
song but I don't think it hit the world
38:21
quite like 2005 because that was at
38:23
every club that year yes that was a big
38:27
hit I can see that
38:29
I just don't think Lupe has Lupe has
38:32
survived enough from her from from the
38:36
rest of us from the rest of the critics
38:38
to really to say that I he's had that
38:42
cut same kind of impact you know you got
38:43
childish camp you know you know also
38:46
known as mr. Glover to the rest of the
38:48
world who's kind of already penetrated a
38:50
lot of a lot of Hollywood a lot oh yeah
38:52
you know the entertainment industry and
38:54
then he comes out you know even not
38:56
nothing he wasn't already childish
38:58
gambino but like he was rapping and he
39:00
was acting and producing and doing all
39:02
these other things he kind of spread
39:04
that to a different level
39:05
whereas we knew Lupe has just you know
39:08
really intelligent rappers right there
39:09
Lupe wasn't the first really intelligent
39:11
rapper but you know childish gambino
39:14
kind of I don't know he'd to me in my
39:17
opinion he just kind of made it cool
39:18
like kind of made it okay to cross your
39:21
honor's to really just be yourself as an
39:24
intelligent individual without being
39:26
ashamed of it sure know that so he was
39:29
that's one thing I really like about
39:30
about childish gambino is he always
39:33
seems to be himself there you don't see
39:36
him change you don't see him adjust he's
39:38
you know unapologetically himself and I
39:41
love that he's always challenging
39:42
himself sonically to you right I wasn't
39:46
too you know I don't know why I can't
39:48
think of it right now but the the one
39:51
the R&B; album II did the one with ribbon
39:53
on it yeah I didn't love something my
39:59
love I should remember that but I liked
40:01
I did not like that album at first when
40:03
I first listened to it because it wasn't
40:05
what I was hoping for and then I got rid
40:08
of my expectations went back and
40:10
listened to that and that was a
40:11
beautiful album after I finally just let
40:13
go of expecting to hear another because
40:16
the internet or another you know I
40:18
forgot what's the name of the other
40:19
album he did with Jaden Smith like the I
40:22
was expecting a different sound and then
40:25
he gave us that and I was like what is
40:27
this dude and then it came back it was
40:29
super dope I don't need that come on
40:32
I don't remember cuz I remember I heard
40:34
it once for me so it's like watching a
40:38
pilot to a TV show there's just so much
40:40
music out there that if that pilot
40:42
doesn't grab you ice turn it off and so
40:44
I heard it once and I kind of I think I
40:47
also just didn't come back to it but I'd
40:49
I will give it a once-over again
40:53
okay next for me is care for me by Sabha
41:01
another album that transports me it
41:04
really feels like its own pocket
41:06
universe you're in Silas mind his
41:09
memories the streets of Chicago it's
41:12
such a personal and concise record that
41:17
really moved me once the final track
41:20
ends you realize how it connects to the
41:21
first track and I remember just leaving
41:23
this on just and just letting it loop
41:26
for a while there's so many vignettes of
41:32
his life from talking about his his
41:36
friend who was killed to talk about
41:38
growing up as a child two broken girls
41:42
which is you know something I never even
41:44
thought about put to music about dating
41:48
someone who is emotionally or mentally
41:52
broken like you and you're kind of feta
41:55
sizing those trades as a host of really
41:58
trying to be better or seen that person
42:00
seeing that person as a whole person
42:03
and you're just kind of staying stagnant
42:05
emotionally and mentally
42:07
so that really hit me hard but yeah it's
42:10
not much to say about this album that I
42:11
hadn't said on on the previous show but
42:13
just an amazing work it's a great album
42:15
I mean like it's part of it's part of my
42:18
rotation too you know this one my
42:20
working rotation is usually this album
42:23
Black Swan by semina and eastern line of
42:27
love stories by black do you know that
42:30
one oh yeah yeah yeah
42:31
those three albums kind of flow together
42:33
for me so that's I don't know any song
42:37
on this album either not because I don't
42:39
listen to it it's just because it's it
42:41
plays seamlessly and I don't really know
42:44
which song is really seamless absolutely
42:46
I'm so I love this I have zero
42:48
complaints about this album either it's
42:50
a great project alright my next album is
42:53
uh I know we we talked a bit about
42:55
substance abuse as far as when you know
42:58
Kid Cudi but this one is kind of
43:00
dedicated to a different substance that
43:03
people I won't say abuse it's it comes
43:05
from the earth it's Wiz Khalifa Wiz
43:08
Khalifa's cushion oj okay this to me was
43:12
peak Wiz I haven't really liked much of
43:15
wizard stuff since this hour but this
43:17
project itself just the vibe the mood
43:21
like this this period of time was when
43:24
he and currency were just putting out
43:25
projects left and right like you know
43:28
they had all those mixtapes just this
43:30
specific sound is what I think of when I
43:33
think of prime Wiz not the black and
43:36
yellow and I'll roll up Wiz Khalifa like
43:39
if he could just stick could have just
43:42
stuck to this pocket this cushion oj
43:44
pocket which i've heard somebody
43:46
actually mentioned before in an
43:48
interview with them they were like you
43:49
know do you ever think you'll ever get
43:51
back to that sound and he tried to put
43:53
out some more songs in that you know in
43:55
that vein but he's in such a different
43:58
place right now you know you can't
43:59
expect any artists to go back i forgot
44:02
who said he said if you like my old
44:03
songs listen to my old albums or
44:05
whatever it was
44:06
well that somebody said that he liked my
44:09
old sound listen to my old albums
44:11
something like that but that's kind of
44:12
how Wiz is now he's moved so far past it
44:15
but to me this was
44:17
the best sound that was has ever
44:19
produced what was the last time you put
44:21
out an album I have it I don't remember
44:24
what it was but I have it I think it
44:26
listened to a whole ways out of my life
44:27
really honestly well actually if I think
44:31
about it
44:32
this was probably this is probably the
44:35
only Wiz album that I listened to on
44:36
purpose from start to finish the other
44:41
ones were the other ones before this
44:43
were pretty good like I said with him in
44:45
currency but this most recent album with
44:47
him in currency I had so I had such high
44:50
expectations for it you know but it let
44:54
me down I need I need that cushion Oh
44:57
gee-whiz back or else I just don't
44:58
really care
44:59
learn but this project was was his stand
45:02
out to me okay my next one is killer
45:09
Mike rap music and I almost want to tie
45:13
it again with cancer 4 cure that they
45:15
were almost like like an inverse of
45:16
speaker box in love below because they
45:19
came out within weeks of each other so
45:20
for those who don't know you know it's
45:22
been beaten to death but rap music is
45:25
this generation's America's Most Wanted
45:27
mm-hmm
45:28
it got me thinking it got me starting to
45:31
think more in a Malcolm by any means
45:34
mindset this was the first album where I
45:38
heard a rapper criticize Barack Obama
45:40
for instance from a leftist perspective
45:42
you know we were used to seeing you know
45:44
Jay Cole and Kendrick in the White House
45:46
but as an International Studies major
45:48
and so on who follows independent I've
45:51
been kind of quietly critical for years
45:53
and it was after this album released
45:56
that I started to start sharing more
45:58
little things on the net mm-hmm I didn't
46:02
feel so alone anymore
46:03
but I guess a yes alum came just a
46:06
couple of weeks before cancer 4 cure and
46:08
those albums just dominated my ears
46:09
until when the jewels came out big beast
46:12
still hit so hard that when titled
46:17
untitled that's my doing was pressure on
46:20
this one no that was known this one no
46:22
okay
46:23
but untitled you know you were
46:24
witnessing elegance in the photo yeah
46:27
that that beat goes so it's
46:30
you know alright by Kendrick it's like
46:34
that kind of civil right and I so Raisa
46:35
the kind of black lives matter anthem
46:37
but you could easily cruise to the
46:40
protests listening to this song right
46:42
was it I don't trust the Pope or the
46:46
government Democrat Republican there's
46:49
so many bars that whole album is just
46:51
fantastic
46:52
yeah this was actually my favorite run
46:54
the jewels album okay even though it was
46:57
not technically rtj yeah this is uh this
47:01
is my favorite run the jewels project
47:02
it's it's incredible
47:03
LP man he did his thing what it what a
47:08
decade for LP mmm I'll get to a little
47:10
later spoiler but Oh as if anybody
47:15
listening doesn't know that you're a big
47:17
rtj friend or an LP fan or an LP fan if
47:20
anybody listens yeah I think that's not
47:22
news bro I got tight yeah can't be cured
47:24
again amazing records like we we didn't
47:27
know where L P was gonna go after I'll
47:29
sleep when you're dead and in the demise
47:31
of Def Jux but he came out thousand
47:34
twelve not only with his own record but
47:36
producing killing mics and he was as
47:38
sharp as ever
47:39
$4 Vick is such a personal record for me
47:43
I taught high school and I dealt with
47:46
just crippling racism and at school and
47:51
it almost made me quit Korea and almost
47:54
made me quit being a teacher I was I was
47:56
so down and $4 Vick just it was the
48:00
soundtrack of my soul for four months
48:04
yeah that will make you go out and do
48:07
some stuff man yeah
48:09
my next project this kind of take it
48:12
take it back to the more commercial side
48:14
is Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted
48:17
Fantasy yeah possibly in my top 10
48:21
favorite rap albums of all time all time
48:24
of all time
48:25
whoo and that's because of the
48:28
production the production was exquisite
48:31
and I don't use that word very often but
48:33
it was amazing the just the music the
48:38
musicality of it I don't even know how
48:40
to really describe or have enough
48:41
adjectives for for this album
48:44
you know as far as raps goes I mean this
48:46
is where Nicki Minaj gave us her best
48:48
verse ever you know everybody talks
48:50
about monster when I was DJing I used to
48:53
play that song often all the time she
48:56
was Busta Rhymes man yeah man like but
48:59
the whole thing it had everything you
49:01
know the full package it was for me it
49:06
meant a lot to me because I always loved
49:08
Kanye until 808 came out I'm still not a
49:11
big 8 aways for his name and so you know
49:15
Lena we had we have friends in common
49:17
who were big 808 fans argue for argue
49:20
for that album you know every day of the
49:22
week but I wasn't a fan of it so I was
49:24
hoping for something different to come
49:26
out and he came out with this album and
49:28
everything from power you know got
49:30
anthems like Power on it you know you
49:32
have but you have you know the more
49:36
melancholy songs on there you know you
49:38
have I love seeing that clip of him in
49:40
concert I can't think of the name of the
49:42
song right now but it just starts off
49:44
with this one piano key whatever that
49:49
song is I can't remember the name of
49:50
right now but that that's all right that
49:55
like that just vibe of the whole thing
49:58
of how the simplicity yet how intricate
50:00
that entire album was top ten for me
50:04
rap albums of all time Wow there's some
50:07
strong words yeah man yeah I I thought
50:11
about that a lot that's before I said it
50:13
but that that one I it's undeniable for
50:16
me is that runaway runaway thank you
50:21
yeah thank you
50:22
I felt bad he's I couldn't think of the
50:24
name of the song but that's a great
50:25
joint that's a great great great song
50:27
that song did it that album is another
50:29
one that had no misses on it absolutely
50:31
not I agree the song with John Legend
50:33
was crazy the Pusha T was crazy like
50:35
every year was just set such a standard
50:38
just out the gate of his deck of the
50:41
decade this is it this is the sound it
50:44
was that and the next next year was
50:46
watch the throne right the mises came
50:49
out right I mean he's just set the tone
50:51
yeah of that decade for sure okay I'm
50:55
gonna move on to Lupe Fiasco
50:57
drogas wave again as I said on the
51:00
previous show just like Tetsu and youth
51:02
you can tell just how much
51:04
Lupe put into this album for those who
51:07
are unfamiliar with this album the first
51:09
half is it's kind of a story about a
51:13
slave ship going across the Atlantic and
51:15
it sinks during a storm but slaves the
51:18
slaves that are that are drowning are
51:21
saved by other slaves who adapted or
51:24
were magically imbued with powers to to
51:27
live in the ocean and they proceed to
51:28
help other slaves on ships that pass
51:31
over the waters and the layer here is
51:33
that Lupe worked for Atlantic Records
51:35
and they had a big split and so it's
51:39
kind of like Lupe made this album to
51:41
free or inspire minds and he did that
51:44
for me and my favorite line on it was he
51:48
said um you can accomplish anything if
51:51
you survive blackness and that's off
51:54
with the track Manila I mean talked
51:56
about nerd rap but for sure childish
51:59
gambino took it to another level he kind
52:01
of took that baton in a more poppy way
52:04
but for me hip hop is like a young man's
52:10
john rrah
52:10
and it's cool to see men around my age
52:13
he's a little older than I am just not
52:15
only maintaining but staying ambitious
52:18
without selling out I was saying like
52:20
Chavez can be no slow down or he think
52:22
that but will he make an album about
52:23
slavery and I don't know he could she
52:26
certainly could he did do this is
52:28
America that's true that's true just
52:30
conceptually the last two Lupe albums
52:33
have been to me really great and this
52:35
one was especially fascinating even the
52:37
molested Euclid and Rovers wave and
52:39
drogas I'm tripping Jokers wave and
52:42
that's you on youth because yoga's light
52:44
came out between that and I wasn't a big
52:46
fan of that one I know you are in at
52:48
ETSU a fan but no I was actually shocked
52:50
but you didn't put tattoo on this one I
52:52
was actually I was gonna applaud you
52:53
actually for not adding tattoo in your
52:56
top ten of 2010 because I've literally
52:59
for those of you listening I've
53:00
literally gone back several times
53:02
specifically for Brendan to try and
53:05
listen and enjoy T and Y like and but I
53:09
can't do it like I just don't like
53:11
boom I think I would rather listen to
53:13
lasers and food and liquor too before I
53:16
listen to Tetsu on you that's how bad it
53:18
is to me I think the problem with touch
53:20
me it's not a problem but I think it's
53:22
his lyrically it's his dentist record
53:25
hmm and I think with this his newest
53:29
album he kind of kept that lyricism with
53:33
kind of more but just conceptually it
53:35
was more interesting and test on youth
53:39
the big thing was about seasons right
53:41
you start off with I forgot the the
53:43
season he was spring I could be wrong
53:45
and it goes down in through winter and
53:49
to fall and etc and I thought that was
53:51
really cool how he did that he cut it up
53:53
in that way but yeah it's okay it's art
53:56
its art right it's all subjective and
53:58
drogas wave was a great album though
53:59
like that's it's my favorite
54:01
lupe album since the cool okay you know
54:06
that the coolest Dylan is a classic ah
54:08
that's fantastic you know it's an
54:09
amazing project but drogas wave kind of
54:13
made me feel but I I had been though
54:15
I've been on the loop a fellow of train
54:16
you know I was on that until this album
54:19
came out okay I was waiting for
54:20
something like this and I was okay
54:22
Tetsuo got me back on is back cuz I was
54:24
on that too at ETSU that was that was it
54:26
for me alright okay so my next project
54:34
let's take us to over to the TDE family
54:36
and that is AB soles control system in
54:39
2012 hmm I mean look I was just I've
54:43
always been a big conspiracy theorist
54:45
I've always been into the metaphysics
54:48
and I'd always said there's really there
54:50
aren't really many rappers that are for
54:52
me out there that actually speak to that
54:54
kind of thing Jay Electronica was that
54:57
was the guy that I that you know I would
54:59
listen to for that but then you have um
55:02
you know well I guess I don't know how
55:03
major they were back then but like they
55:05
you have a big label who's really coming
55:07
up and was really growing and you had
55:08
this one guy out of the group out of the
55:10
whole black hippy crew who you know
55:12
talks about Bohemian Grove who talks
55:15
about your pioneer Glen who talks about
55:17
all this stuff and the stuff that I need
55:19
just was deep inside that I don't really
55:22
talk about you know they say don't talk
55:23
about politics or religion
55:25
stuff like that like I don't talk about
55:26
conspiracies with people you know just
55:28
cuz that kind of makes him look you know
55:30
look sideways like right is this guy
55:31
talking about but then you have this guy
55:33
who's rapping about it and I was like
55:35
yeah you know I found myself cheering
55:37
for him like Talk That Talk that you
55:39
know I'm I'm and since then I've always
55:41
listened to absol for that very reason
55:43
you know and but this album control
55:45
system was just the I guess the epitome
55:49
of that the epitome of conspiracy rap on
55:51
a on I guess major scale of course it
55:54
exists in the underground all over the
55:55
place but you know he kind of brought it
55:57
to a major scale and I appreciated it
56:00
for that and terrorist threats the joint
56:02
with Danny Brown and jhene aiko
56:04
is one of my favorite TDE songs period
56:07
it's a great record great great record
56:10
yep I'm about to listen to that on my
56:13
way home it's one it's a great winter
56:16
song specifically just the the actual
56:18
production with you know the wind and
56:20
the background and jenay's voice kind of
56:22
sounds like a like gale you know like
56:24
yeah - gale like it's was that the song
56:27
that was one of the first songs I really
56:29
introduced janay right it wasn't her
56:31
first song but that was one of her
56:32
earlier tracks wasn't it I don't know
56:34
enough about her to say yes knowing that
56:36
but I wouldn't doubt it yeah she's
56:39
fantastic
56:39
I know the toy first learned about Danny
56:41
Brown for sure I think yeah I think that
56:44
was where I learned about Danny Brown
56:45
that's dope record I do wanna go back
56:47
that whole year forty you had control
56:49
system that year good kid maad city and
56:52
Schoolboy Q habits encounters in
56:54
contradictions yeah what a great year
56:56
for them that's right
56:57
my next album so Vilakku apologies in
57:00
advance mm-hmm I talk about this album
57:02
at length all my favorite albums of 2018
57:05
show which console it was it was my
57:08
number two that year but again it's so
57:12
refreshing to see a concept album pulled
57:14
off so well so this is an album
57:16
dedicated to recognizing problematic
57:19
elements within ourselves mental health
57:21
and healing the album is laced with
57:23
twelve skits or interludes kind of based
57:27
on on the twelve steps they include
57:29
people I'm assuming in an a a meeting
57:32
addressing different questions to help
57:33
them heal and love themselves as whole
57:35
people and just Soviet as a rapper
57:38
he he really sounds like Kendrick I mean
57:42
this sounds like he was inspired by a
57:45
good kid or to pimp a butterfly and
57:47
tried to make his own entry in that
57:49
level of concept and execution you know
57:53
in this capitalist neoliberal society we
57:57
were constantly told and pressured to
57:58
feel that we're not enough and it can
58:01
drive us to madness narcissism and
58:03
apathy depression anxiety and this album
58:05
was really inspiring to me and helping
58:10
not only to heal myself but to also have
58:13
more empathy impatience for other people
58:14
mm-hmm so it's miss this one meant a lot
58:17
to me yeah I wasn't really up on silver
58:20
McHugh I heard you mention him before I
58:22
think it wasn't that on the show we
58:23
shone soul 2018 but the 2019 actually it
58:28
was but a wrap-up of 2018 right I think
58:31
that's where I learned about it but I
58:33
really wasn't up on it and after I
58:35
received your list I went and checked
58:37
them out and yeah yes potentially I
58:39
saved it actually in my favorites
58:40
entitle to go back and check it out yeah
58:44
really good now I talked about Danny
58:48
Brown actually in the absol
58:51
from the absol album but Danny Brown is
58:53
actually next on my list and it's the
58:54
xxx album they needed or tape or
58:57
whatever you want to call it again this
59:01
was 2012 and you know not only was I
59:05
into all this other stuff
59:06
I was also drinking a lot in 2012 and I
59:09
was on you know I was I was on some
59:11
derelict type stuff I was 2 years in the
59:13
career you know still standing outside
59:15
in front of the CEO soju bottles you
59:17
know I was I was still doing that type
59:19
of stuff and Danny Brown was the the
59:22
soundtrack to my debauchery let's just
59:25
say that this album though was the I
59:29
guess this album proved to me how
59:32
lyrical Danny Brown really is like when
59:35
you hear a lot of his singles and you
59:37
just hear his raunchiness and things
59:38
like that and you just think all this
59:40
dude is just crazy you know he's insane
59:42
clown posse crazy but dude had some
59:45
serious bars when he's talking about
59:46
this stuff and I'd so from then I
59:49
listened to Danny Brown a little bit
59:51
differently you know
59:52
you know he also changes his voice up so
59:54
he has his more serious serious attack
59:56
lyrical voice on songs like pop blood
59:59
but then you know he has another song
60:01
called radio song where he changes his
60:02
voice to this really high-pitched
60:04
squeaky voice you know the the Danny
60:07
Brown voice that we've come to know and
60:08
love like but he goes party all the time
60:11
that was this album too right
60:13
party all the time she wants to party
60:15
all the time yeah yeah that and this
60:19
song had so many you know good songs and
60:22
a bruiser brigade music died like a rock
60:24
star like it had so many so many so many
60:27
dope songs on it now yeah it XXX and
60:30
it's really cool to see him because he's
60:32
he started out a little older like he
60:34
blew up a little older he's the same age
60:35
as me actually oh really okay yeah
60:37
they're older like me that's right yeah
60:39
there is a word that's the old
60:44
speaking of older my next album is run
60:47
the jewels run the jewels - and again LP
60:52
and killer Mike these two became more
60:55
famous than the most they've ever been
60:58
in their late 30s so again that gives me
61:03
hope but yeah I mean again no one saw LP
61:09
comin this decade this is like his his
61:11
best he's ever been mm-hmm that's right
61:14
that'd be for all my darling don't cry
61:16
Oh brah like when and I loved our TJ one
61:21
it just came out nowhere no one saw that
61:22
coming it is released it you know butane
61:25
off the rap music give it a taste of
61:27
what to come but mandolin the first
61:28
singles blockbuster night hmm
61:30
and you know killer Mike's verse top of
61:34
the morning my fiftieth faces
61:36
Folgers mm-hmm but yes you said when oh
61:39
my darlin came out I think two weeks
61:41
later and that I knew at that point they
61:44
were gonna take things to another level
61:46
hmm like that I can't think of a better
61:48
beat change and then Elle's lion I'm not
61:57
from Earth from far away I bust through
61:58
chest like baby Grey's there's you know
62:00
I'm a huge alien fan I was I was so
62:03
excited that the back
62:05
- back combo with close your eyes on
62:08
that album it's like one of the best
62:10
like three-piece combos mmm no of
62:13
sequencing this decade and like you know
62:15
all of L's projects is just incredible
62:17
how he sequences his work and makes all
62:19
the tracks kind of flow together right
62:21
you can always expect me to make
62:22
fantastic bookends to his albums the
62:24
intros and the outros they're always
62:27
standouts mm-hmm another step up from
62:29
the debut album is how they added more
62:32
socio-political commentary with light
62:34
sheet steel crown early an angel duster
62:39
like that that added piano layer at the
62:41
end of angel duster mm-hmm on the out so
62:43
it's just it's just beautiful and
62:44
alright art TJ is from e3 for three
62:48
I'm really excited for the new album
62:50
this year but I think our TJ two is
62:52
their crown jewel right now have they
62:53
hinted at a release date yet that
62:55
release date but else debt L said it's
62:57
coming out this year for sure that's
62:58
what's up my next project is I guess you
63:02
know back to the commercial side of
63:03
things jay-z's 444 and that Tim this
63:07
album to me was significant because it
63:09
marked a transition I guess in how a lot
63:13
of us view jay-z you know from jay-z the
63:16
rapper to jay-z that everything else the
63:19
Mogul the you know the faithful husband
63:22
you know this was his apology album this
63:24
but he you know talked a lot about Lee
63:29
well he's always let's be fair he's
63:30
always talked a lot about black wealth
63:32
and community but this album kind of
63:35
solidified where he is in you know where
63:38
he places himself in the black community
63:39
and where he wants to be I guess as far
63:42
as where he wants to be looked up to how
63:44
he wants to be looked up to for the
63:46
current generation of black men and
63:50
specifically hip-hop artists I know we
63:52
had a discussion about this and the last
63:54
time I was here but you know even if it
63:57
may be superficial a lot of people are
64:00
still looking at this saying you know
64:02
okay jay-z you know this blackberry and
64:04
our rapper is talking like this okay you
64:07
know there's something to it so even if
64:09
it's just symbolically he means
64:11
something to this current generation of
64:13
rappers and so I really appreciated that
64:16
but to speak to the album and
64:19
particular I love the album sonically
64:22
every song and it meant something
64:24
different to me it felt differently but
64:26
even more so were the music videos if
64:28
you watch the it was like watching a TV
64:31
show and I think that it the video spoke
64:35
just as much as or if not more than the
64:38
songs themselves did and so I really
64:40
appreciated that me coming from a video
64:41
background having those visuals to
64:43
accompany the song was great in the end
64:46
the accompanying interviews as well not
64:48
just the music videos it I think it
64:52
meant a lot for what is to come from
64:55
jay-z and his entire camp and it gives
64:58
me a lot to look forward to from from
65:00
rock nation on that note it's very
65:03
interesting this pass ticket about how
65:05
we experience albums you have just roll
65:08
outs you got Twitter you got these
65:10
interviews you got these visuals and
65:13
justice it's not just like in the nice
65:15
word here's the album and come to my
65:17
concert and here's a generic video of me
65:20
kind of just you know move my hands
65:22
around and and rapping there's so much
65:24
behind that's right these albums now
65:28
yeah it's a great album you know I you
65:32
know we talked about black capitalism in
65:34
a sense but you know as a whole black
65:38
people especially men are not really
65:40
taught enough about economics at a young
65:42
age and so it's better than nothing and
65:45
so I definitely respect that you know
65:46
his story of OJ you know talking about
65:48
just credit like how important that is
65:52
like who really talks about those ranks
65:53
and so I totally resonate with that so
65:56
it's great album
65:58
great album all right so my last one
66:03
it's of no surprise to those who know me
66:06
but Kendrick Lamar to pimp a butterfly
66:08
as it should be yeah given his two
66:12
sokrati is kind of like Radiohead or
66:14
something like everyone has a favorite
66:16
Radiohead album and I think everyone has
66:18
a fear of Kendrick I'll write section 80
66:20
good kid
66:21
damn damn it butterfly I mean but for me
66:24
I think regardless of your favorite this
66:29
is undoubtedly his most important I
66:31
agree a hundred percent
66:33
and this came out in 2015 surviving the
66:35
midst of the protests against racism in
66:37
the States no other mainstream rap album
66:39
came close to that level of Afro
66:41
centrosome in years hmm
66:44
and they were complaints at the time you
66:46
know listening to black the berry some
66:48
were like it's too black and I can't I
66:50
can't relate to this but it's like look
66:53
at it from a movie perspective do you
66:54
have do you need to be an Italian
66:56
gangster to appreciate the Godfather do
66:58
you need to be Jewish to appreciate
67:01
Schindler's List or a toy or a child to
67:03
appreciate Toy Story right this at their
67:05
core they touch on character traits and
67:08
situations that most to all people can
67:11
understand and for Barry black of the
67:13
barriers the price is pride in the face
67:15
of unfair and constant persecution so
67:19
this album speaks on issues that many
67:23
regardless of race age or gender have
67:25
gone through the arrogance that comes
67:27
with intelligence or success the guilt
67:30
of leaving behind loved ones on your
67:32
path to success addiction shaking morals
67:35
depression learning humility loving
67:38
yourself again while these issues have
67:40
been covered in hip hop in the past it
67:43
was fascinating to watch how this new
67:47
generation handled it and I think this
67:50
was again kind of the crown jewel of
67:51
this decade amazing instrumentation the
67:55
jazz the funk the soul I personally
67:58
can't say enough about this album this
68:00
would have been on my list as well but
68:02
as you know we try not to duplicate so
68:04
we talked about it before all right
68:07
being the theme of 2015 that just that
68:11
song I remember in the the the Facebook
68:15
group that the hip hop Facebook group
68:16
that were in together
68:18
shut up to hip hop lovers start out
68:20
their pop lovers that um we talked about
68:22
that a bit and we were talking about I
68:25
guess the some of the most impactful or
68:26
important songs of the decade and a lot
68:30
I saw people questioning you when you
68:31
mentioned all right as as one of them
68:34
well it in our poll in the group it was
68:37
everyone easily but I mean I was just
68:40
shocked to see even those who disagreed
68:42
I didn't understand how people could not
68:45
understand for one
68:46
thing oh really yes I don't let him pay
68:48
that that close attention but I was like
68:50
how can you not understand but okay if
68:52
you tell me they're not black then they
68:53
wouldn't get it but again it just it
68:55
illustrates that there are people who
68:58
partake in our music but we'll never
69:01
truly understand that music mm-hmm
69:03
there are there are some people that you
69:05
know that are in it for you know for
69:09
just the music and there are some people
69:11
that actually you know can feel the
69:14
movement and can understand the movement
69:15
can know what it's actually about and
69:17
obviously those who who disagreed with
69:19
that I'd you know shoot the whole album
69:22
is like that I mean he started off
69:23
talking calling himself King Kunta I
69:25
mean it doesn't get any blacker than
69:27
that I love that project that's one of
69:30
my favorite albums - totally I really
69:33
related to mama a lot it was a great
69:35
beat but just the idea of I've gone
69:37
abroad I've done all this stuff I know
69:39
everything I know everything y'all got
69:41
yeah I tell me mm-hmm then when you
69:43
get home you're like wow mm-hmm I don't
69:47
know as much as I thought I did
69:48
yeah and again that that humility again
69:51
it's great to see black men express that
69:56
kind of vulnerability and humility right
69:59
this decade well I had one more album on
70:03
my list yeah um and it's high height as
70:07
coyote choose your weapon hmm from 2015
70:10
man I need another hiatus coyote album
70:15
they I mean they're for those of you
70:17
don't know there they are a neo soul
70:19
band out of Australia and I mean they're
70:21
just their music is just beautiful I
70:24
don't know if you did you ever listen to
70:26
napalm her solo project there's no I
70:28
haven't it's it's coyote ish but it's
70:33
still it's not the full band I mean
70:35
there's nothing like their sound it's I
70:37
love everything that they put out I
70:39
totally agree
70:41
pick a bigger weapon shootin was a
70:43
choose your weapon it is um is just such
70:46
an amazing project I just I really need
70:49
more from them like seriously I don't
70:54
know if I don't know if they can outdo
70:56
choose your weapon though because it was
70:57
I think they might be I don't the only
71:00
reason why
71:00
think they wouldn't do another project
71:01
is because maybe they can't outdo the
71:04
last rate I'm not you know top
71:06
themselves me there for those who may
71:08
not know this band if you listen to
71:10
innocent pox Malibu he sampled molasses
71:14
on that song without you with Rhapsody
71:16
and on that note before we get out of
71:19
here let's talk about some of our
71:20
honorable mentions really quick yeah so
71:22
a nester parks Malibu was just barely
71:25
missed again it was kind of that black
71:27
boy joy again singer rapper I mean valid
71:30
was such a fantastic project and how
71:33
does coyote actually I was up there too
71:36
with me mmm along with egodeath by the
71:39
internet yes that's a five
71:43
salons got edged out here salons two
71:47
weeks after a seat at the table came out
71:50
I went to therapy for the first time I
71:51
my life mmm it was that album along with
71:54
butterfly I was just like wow I really
71:55
need to get my life together right see
71:58
the table was kind of like eating your
72:00
mom's hearty beef stew wrapped in a
72:03
blanket had a fireplace and a cottage in
72:06
the middle of a snowstorm it was just so
72:07
comforting to me for me my my I guess
72:13
the only one that we didn't mentioned
72:14
was a homeboy Sandman for us lb living
72:17
breed just a great great great project I
72:21
haven't really liked his later projects
72:24
as much as this one agree but that you
72:27
know first we're living breed was just
72:29
such a solid project he's always been
72:31
such an amazing rapper I just wish he
72:33
would make better songs in the current
72:35
day yeah but first of all even breed
72:38
that he had you know uh I don't even
72:41
know how to describe it like but just
72:42
lyrically it felt to me like he was at
72:44
his peak it was at his top yeah and I
72:47
guess the only other album I would add
72:48
to my favorite albums of or I would say
72:52
the most impactful album of in 2010 is
72:55
the album that we still haven't gotten
72:57
from Jay Electronica
73:00
dead serious that is the most impactful
73:04
album of 2010 you know how many people
73:05
are still talking about that are the
73:08
2010s rather how many people are still
73:09
talking about that album everybody was
73:11
kind of really gassing something he was
73:13
really yeah yeah did the whole
73:16
announcement thing you know started
73:18
releasing a couple Lucy's here there
73:20
five years later and you know like I
73:25
said people are still talking about it
73:26
whenever you see them randomly used here
73:28
people interview Erykah Badu and they
73:30
ask her about it
73:31
like that song is not only I mean that
73:34
album is not only in my top ten of 2010
73:37
it's also going to be in my top ten of
73:40
the 2020s in all time whether it comes
73:43
out or not it's just people it's the
73:45
most anticipated album ever and I think
73:48
now it's so anticipated that is that
73:50
it's never gonna come out I mean again
73:54
it's like how can you live up to that
73:55
kind of height mm-hmm really quick some
73:58
other honorable mentions Kaah honor
74:00
killed the samurai mm-hmm tyler flower
74:02
boy yep
74:03
vince staples summertime oh six ASAP
74:07
rocky at long last
74:09
ASAP was great great album great album
74:11
and rhapsody Leila's wisdom eve is great
74:15
but i think honestly Leila's wisdom is
74:17
probably better for me right and shout
74:20
out to Big KRIT forever isn't my long
74:22
time a double album probably the best
74:25
that will album in rap just on a
74:27
consistent level pound-for-pound bead
74:28
and in lyricism fantastic record I'd
74:31
also have to add in twenty one savage I
74:34
am is greater than what I was that album
74:36
for me even as ratchet and crude as it
74:40
might be was super solid and I love the
74:43
project it kind of brought that Atlantis
74:47
sound with a little bit you know mixed
74:50
in I guess intelligence it was the
74:51
mirror to the south to me at that time
74:53
but you know musically and sonically I'd
74:55
have to put that in Marvel mentions and
74:58
nerd it no I can't get into his to him
75:02
his voice and just I was like that until
75:05
this project okay I'll check it out yeah
75:08
I was like that until this project and
75:11
shout out to Griselda who I wish I could
75:13
have put in my top ten list all all of
75:15
their projects are great but again since
75:19
they're just so recent I just think it's
75:21
it's not fair and I would put I would
75:23
there are so many other albums that came
75:25
before that that I've had time to sit
75:27
with and meditate on him before you know
75:29
I created this list sure
75:31
are there any albums looking forward to
75:35
this year other than the jail exonic
75:37
album um I want to see of course I want
75:42
to see Cudi put something else out
75:44
without Kanye on it it's been two years
75:46
so yeah it's it's about it's about time
75:48
for a new Cudi album but as far as
75:52
announcements I haven't really heard any
75:54
announcements that really have me
75:55
excited besides our teaching I'm not
75:59
really excited about our TJ I like them
76:01
I like them a lot and then I will listen
76:04
to it but I don't run to our TJ it's for
76:08
me oh look they're coming out hey great
76:11
that's number one for me Kendrick hasn't
76:13
dropped in three years it's about time
76:15
it's about time because yes he has a kid
76:17
now maybe he's just being a dad for a
76:19
while and that's great that is be a dad
76:20
man but also show us you know give us
76:23
some art that reflects that experience
76:25
I'd love to hear that perspective from
76:26
him Gambino's retirement album should
76:28
come out this year I believe
76:29
oh he's retiring from music and I
76:33
believe I think it's this year
76:35
so I hate what people retire to music he
76:37
doesn't make any sense you're right
76:38
you'll come back in five years right
76:40
right I heard I heard rumors that J Cole
76:44
was recording a music video really and
76:49
so I'm sure he'll drop I mean he dropped
76:51
a forceful Drive in 2014 he dropped four
76:54
as only in 2016 he dropped kod in 2018
76:57
so it would stand to reason that he'll
76:59
probably drop something this year all
77:01
right J Cole I like kod yeah I don't
77:05
really love Bobby love his stuff but kod
77:08
was pretty good and if he can evolve and
77:10
grow from that then yeah sure right I'm
77:12
down for it well okay everyone this
77:15
about concludes this show before we go
77:18
have you seen bad boys three not yeah
77:21
when I watch this movie there's a scene
77:23
where Will Smith and Martin Lawrence are
77:28
standing in front of a door to like go
77:29
talk to a person Marv Lawrence is like
77:31
hey let's just knock on the door and
77:33
talk to me let's just be chill and
77:35
bulbous and Will's like Mike Larry's
77:37
like that and just kicks the door
77:38
down with this gun
77:39
out and there's a white guy snorting
77:42
coke and he gets he gets up like kind of
77:44
ready to like defend himself and this
77:48
was the 90s or early 2000s do kind of
77:50
laugh at that but
77:51
after all that we've seen and know about
77:53
cops these days that kind of for me that
77:57
kind of cop worship I felt such fear for
78:00
that white dude and angry at Will Smith
78:03
for being like a fascist and I didn't
78:06
mention this on my review I forgot to
78:09
talk about it and I wonder how black
78:11
folks feel about that whether they
78:13
turned their brains off and just enjoyed
78:15
the moment or if they had some kind of
78:17
recoil on that because he had his gun
78:19
out he said I know you're just hopped up
78:20
on drugs right now but if you move on me
78:22
I will shoot you and there was no other
78:24
option
78:24
there was no I'll tase you I'll just
78:27
tell you to the ground with my you know
78:28
police training she said I will I will
78:31
kill you I'll be honest my first
78:33
reaction upon hearing that story I was
78:36
excited for you know Mike Lowrey like
78:39
yeah get him you know what I mean but
78:41
you're right and thinking about it and
78:43
thinking about it in more realistic
78:44
terms you know I'm I'm one of those guys
78:45
who will what get those cop watch videos
78:47
and scroll through them just to see what
78:49
kind of ridiculousness happens and yeah
78:52
if it were you know a more reality based
78:55
story I would have yeah or just their
78:57
simple race swap what if that if my
78:59
Claire was was a white dude and he just
79:01
burst into a black guy's apartment after
79:05
he had you know smoked a joint and he's
79:06
kind of dazed and like what's going on
79:08
and it's gone out like stop moving or I
79:11
will kill you mm-hmm that's gonna evoke
79:14
invoke a lot of fear totally different
79:17
emotion but I guess since the shoe is
79:18
generally on the other foot like the
79:20
shoe is most publicly on the other foot
79:24
it's more difficult to I guess to
79:28
receive that emotion because normally
79:30
we're used to seeing it seeing it that
79:31
way though where the white cop busts in
79:33
on a person of color yeah and you know
79:36
you get that kind of you know reaction I
79:39
will shoot you if you move versus saying
79:41
hey put you know put the blood down and
79:44
you know lay on your lay on your stomach
79:45
right yeah I mean like there's that I
79:50
guess naturally we you know that we
79:53
comes out and says that that's the more
79:55
common thing that we hear right and so I
79:58
guess hearing it seeing it in a movie
80:00
like that I don't you know it didn't it
80:02
wouldn't really affect me as much as
80:03
Bratton I don't know I won't say should
80:05
or shouldn't but it just wouldn't affect
80:07
me that much cool tell us what your
80:10
favorite albums are in the comments be
80:13
sure to give us a review ruin Apple
80:15
podcast or on Spotify Ron anchor find us
80:18
there I want to thank Jack Zilla for
80:21
being here my pleasure any time yeah it
80:23
was awesome take care of y'all peace
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peace