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Watchmen Season 2, What Would it Look Like?

Brendon & Mel talk about the season finale of Watchmen, what they would like to see in a 2nd season, and their favorite Blerd X-mas moments. But first they explain why they’re not going to review the latest Star Wars movie for a while.


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well first I'm Brendan hello you can
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tell that we're a bit tired yeah we're
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both educators and it's the end of the
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semester so you gonna get whatever words
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come out this mouth today I I worked out
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last night hmm and then I woke up at
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6:00 and woke up and it worked out again
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why I usually work out every morning
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like every morning at 6 a.m.
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uh-huh so last night I did by stepping
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back mm-hmm and then I woke up and I did
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legs okay I mean I kind of get it but
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okay I missed the morning so I did are
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you tired now no I'm icy I'm pretty good
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Wow Rock right on but once I get home to
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edit we'll see what happens right right
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yeah I'm in a marathon while half
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marathon this weekend yeah Taiwan yeah I
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went to Taipei and ran the Taipei
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Marathon really slowly because the last
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leg of the race coincided with it
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getting hot like hot with 6h
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is 75% humidity all of a sudden out of
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nowhere at exactly 9:00 a.m. over the
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last leg of the race so usually some a
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distance that takes me usually about 30
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minutes to run took me a good 45 so not
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a record setter but my first
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international race the first race I've
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had to apply for so I was pretty proud
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of myself I did it yeah I'm the best
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Maine I did it that's dope I was a food
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really good oh my goodness you know I
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was this close to being like in Harlem
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Nights calling up and telling like it
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was really really cool type is out cool
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city man Taiwan is cool it's just such a
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different vibe yeah I really like the
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people and just it was really culturally
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interesting I don't think I could live
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there but just because I don't speak
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Mandarin and it's tropical which comes
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with a lot of interesting features that
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I don't know that I could do namely bugs
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but yeah yeah it was cool it was really
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cool I'm definitely gonna visit again
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did you - did you by chance go to that
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that that bath house that inspired
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spirited away I did not
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I wanted to but I but I was in a
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different part of town like on the was
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basically I went for the marathon so I
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got there kind of late on a Saturday and
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hung out with a friend and then Sunday
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was the marathon so that was my whole
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day and then I had Monday to explore and
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I want up in a really different part of
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town and I found I'll tell you what I
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did find they are there is a underground
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book street in central Taipei just like
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legit two city blocks of books
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underground like a whole Street of books
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and it's books in they have books in
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Mandarin and English and Japanese I have
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magazines they have stationery they have
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games they have a Starbucks ghost I
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guess you have those everywhere now but
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it's just a really cool thing so I
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probably spent about four hours just
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wandering through these streets and
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streets of books underground that sounds
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awesome
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it was amazing yeah it was great and I
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actually found a book about African
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entrepreneurs in the bestseller section
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in Taiwan in English that's doing yeah
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so I bought that because I I haven't
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seen that anywhere else yeah it was
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really cool that's really cool anyway so
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enough with the travel
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moving on no it's not at school I'm sure
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our listeners would get here that I
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actually went to Taiwan I think 2016
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right
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calcium southern southern Taiwan and now
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it wasn't during tourist season it was
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in I think January February cool so we
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had this whole like mountain forest
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National Park to ourself me and my
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then-girlfriend and we were just walking
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under these trees and they were just
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monkeys just staring at us the whole
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time
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oh that's creepy yeah when you're alone
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in a forest oh I hate monkeys
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I hate monkey so much I went to
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Indonesia into Bali and you know how
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they have like the monkey forest or
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whatever is right in the centre of town
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yeah basically every time I saw a monkey
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forest street I turned the other way I
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hate monkeys huh oh they're just creepy
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um Freeza did you see yuck did you see
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the did you see the the bath house
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you're talking about did you see it
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unfortunately at the time because it's
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not in Taipei it's like it's not even
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caching it it's like hard to find it's
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kind of well there's no such thing as
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the middle of nowhere on an island
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necessarily sure but it's far from all
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of the other stuff yeah
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okay all right this is not lured up
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travel this is right fan questions okay
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today we're gonna talk about the season
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finale possibly series finale of
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Watchmen what we would like to see in a
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second season and possibly our favorite
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blurr t Christmas moments right but
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first we have to talk about why we're
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not going to review Star Wars for a
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while yeah so for those who are new to
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this show we don't really have high
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hopes for the rise of Skywalker and
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early reviews are mixed at best I've
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already seen a this conclusion won't
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please everyone
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Oh tag line or this is a disappointing
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ending for the saga but I haven't read
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anything I really don't want my pain to
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be influenced by anything so until we
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see this film I'm probably going to get
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off social media for until then
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okay so I mean that's what well first
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explain to the listeners when we might
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actually see this film worst-case
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scenario okay
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Raisa Skywalker officially releases in
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South Korea which is where we live
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yes on January 8th so that's almost
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three weeks mm-hmm after it comes out
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right anywhere else right yeah so there
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are reasons and I I do want to go into
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those real quick and if you have
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anything to add to of course in 1967 in
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Korea there's a quota set by the Korean
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government that promotes their domestic
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films and limits how many western films
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get shown throughout the year and at any
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given time this was done to help assure
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that Korea's own movie industry could
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grow so now of course I totally get it
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I think in that year you had a Cool Hand
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Luke
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The Graduate the Dirty Dozen guess who's
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coming to dinner in the heat of the
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night and you only live once that
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double-oh-seven movie so of course
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Korea's films at that time we're going
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to get blown out where any of those
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popular in Korea yeah but those were
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films ever out yeah okay interesting I
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mean I don't know what international
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distribution was like back in the day so
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yeah I don't yeah sorry I don't know
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what international distribution was like
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back in the day so yeah apparently um
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there weren't really any mega plexes in
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Korea at the time anyway hmm they were
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still developing hmm but Korea had say
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this is where we need doc hurt on the
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podcast sure he's an expert on this kind
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of stuff true you're out there and
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listening doc hurt hit us with a comment
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with your expertise swooped in yes
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exactly however but from my
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understanding there was like already a
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special policy in place where the Korean
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government really invested a lot into
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local film to kind of I don't know not
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to just I don't know how to phrase it
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exactly not to distract people but
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there's a lot of really good quality
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older Korean films that were essentially
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bankrolled by government interests to
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kind of keep the populace
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I don't know I don't you know I don't
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know enough about this to really talk
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about it with any sort of expertise but
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there was a lot of government support
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for films there's a center here in Seoul
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that actually shows a lot of older films
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with subtitles in English but the
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exercise released on YouTube yeah oh
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yeah totally the Korean Film Archive on
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YouTube has all
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loads of them problem is they do all of
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the contextual explanation that goes and
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like the q and a's that go with those
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films all in Korean and my Korea is not
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good enough to follow all of that
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historical talk necessarily all the time
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so yeah but there's reasons for that
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eyes besides just the quota system
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there's a there's a history of Korea
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really promoting its own art as well
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okay but yeah over over time the US has
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chipped at their regulations in order to
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promote their own movies because a
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distant domestic box-office and of
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course many movies take in more money
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from overseas box-office than domestic
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and South Korea is a large market for it
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do you know where it's ranked in the
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world for box-office revenue oh no I
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don't where forth I actually that yeah
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that's not surprising who are the other
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who's the top four top three rather well
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King gets number one probably the US
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number two China yes okay
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now sure about the other ones I don't
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really go 254 okay I'm not surprised I
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guess there's also that whole policy
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here where the government subsidizes
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movie tickets so if you like if you guys
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don't know movie tickets in Korea are
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all the same price and they're all
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really low-priced I mean I've never
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spent more than ten bucks on a movie
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here and that's for like the really good
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ones
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exactly it's it's always pretty cheap
10:13
they're all the same price it's it's
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very it's relatively inexpensive to go
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to the movies here totally to the point
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where when I was back home last summer
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and I went to a movie with friends I
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walked up to the window and asked for
10:23
tickets for this movie and the lady
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behind the counter was like that'll be
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$21 and I was like I just walked I said
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I just want one she was like that's for
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one was for a 3d movie Oh which is like
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super cheap here so I'm just so used to
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it yeah but yeah I mean that there's
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there's a lot of other outside
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influences on how popular cinema is here
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is my point
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yeah I think it's very possible then
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just per capita Korea is number one as
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far as moviegoers and let me get to Star
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Wars though sorry yeah okay so there was
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a recent lawsuit
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apparently frozen to took up 88% of
11:02
movie theaters on opening day and it's
11:05
still rocket in theaters on track to
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surpass the box office of the fur
11:08
film I personally don't care about
11:11
Hillary Clinton with ice powers so
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that's why I haven't seen it but anyway
11:16
to avoid getting into more monopolistic
11:18
turmoil you can't have both films from
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the same studio dominating the box
11:23
office here so frozen star wars 1 had to
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go so because of that we're getting
11:28
Taylor Swift and Eaters Elba and CGI
11:31
Catford before the conclusion of the
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Skywalker side very cool which is
11:36
interesting although to me it almost
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seems like this is one of the unforeseen
11:40
issues with Disney monopolizing all of
11:42
the major honestly all the major nerd
11:45
properties so the fact that Disney owns
11:47
Marvel Star Wars as well as the Disney
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Empire is actually a huge problem in
11:53
terms of international distribution
11:54
because of these kinds of laws if Star
11:57
Wars was still owned by a different
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studio it would be out here already I
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think possibly possibly although there's
12:03
the other thing is that really Star Wars
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doesn't have that big of a fan base here
12:07
in the last two Star Wars films that
12:09
were released here basically which Star
12:12
Wars themed films that were released
12:13
here which is solo and then of course
12:17
that's Jedi yeah solo and last Jedi they
12:21
both kind of flopped like Solo was in
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the theaters here for five minutes
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seriously I like I saw it like available
12:28
and I was like I'll go see it tomorrow
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and the next day it was gone gone yeah
12:31
there was really a teeny Star Wars fan
12:33
base here Star Wars isn't that huge
12:36
definite not like Marvel is massive but
12:39
Star Wars a Disney massive Star Wars
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true so it's not really a priority yeah
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I mean literally today in my classroom
12:50
for their Christmas party I had three
12:52
girls dresses Elsa yeah no one cares
12:54
about Star Wars at my school yeah frozen
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is a huge hit here which is hot in a way
12:58
but yeah that said what that means for
13:01
us is that we don't get to see Star Wars
13:04
unless we go out of the country to see
13:06
it until the 8th of January or my Kinect
13:10
on base can get me in and let me see it
13:13
there's possibility as well
13:15
I got homies out there so we'll see if I
13:17
can if you can see it on base then we'll
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have this show up earlier
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I'm considering just taking a short trip
13:23
to Japan just for myself you know along
13:25
the way I'll just watch it so let's all
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see though there are there options but
13:29
worst case scenario we don't get to see
13:31
it until it actually is released in
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theaters in Korea and that is the 8th of
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January so for those of us those of us
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mmm those of you who were hoping to hear
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us share our thoughts unfortunately we
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don't have any yet yeah it'll probably
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come out if we have to wait till the 8th
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the show will probably come out January
13:50
9th America time yeah
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January 10th our time right okay all
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right so sorry to disappoint you guys
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but we have our things to talk about but
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this also means don't be sharing
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spoilers on the blurred up page okay
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like we know you've seen it already if
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you're in America we know you love it
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but do not spoil it because we still
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want to see it I'm moving my finger a
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lot the studio you can't see it but I
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mean business no spoilers honestly after
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I put this show out I'm probably just
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gonna go dark and it's not lagann
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anymore I should do that but I have no
14:21
self-control in that regard so no memes
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no okay put them up but it's not on our
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page okay okay let's go on to Watchmen I
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wanna start with our overall impressions
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of this before we go too deep into the
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spoilers again understand people that
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we're going to spoil the heck out of
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thing so turn off now if you haven't
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seen it three two one you'll know first
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just the general impressions yeah oh
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that was such good storytelling massage
14:52
good storytelling it really did feel
14:53
like a sequel to the comic I was very
14:55
happy with the way it went it was just
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good storytelling that's rare personally
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oh give him the strength of what was set
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up sir and definitely after this is SH
15:10
ordinary being episode 6 I was a little
15:14
slightly disappointed with the finale uh
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it wasn't bad by any means a lot of ends
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were tied up
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hmm however it didn't like Simone biles
15:23
Wow meet on the landing fair like if
15:26
this is Troy Deeney being was an a-plus
15:28
mm-hmm this finale was like a solid B
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for me
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maybe beep less like is yeah yeah I can
15:39
see why you would say that it really did
15:41
it went from having all of these really
15:44
heavy immersive themes and kind of big
15:47
bombastic statements to at the end just
15:49
becoming about a really very ordinary
15:51
story in its resolution it kind of
15:54
turned into sort of a love story sort of
15:56
dana mom but if you think about it
15:58
that's kind of what the original comic
16:00
did - towards the end there so yeah I
16:04
thought it was true to the spirit of the
16:05
property I could see why you why it
16:07
wasn't a WoW but I thought it was just a
16:09
great way to resolve the story but that
16:12
said I guess for me this episode had
16:16
more easy to see coming moments and
16:19
maybe slightly forced or unearned ones
16:23
hmm like a worse balance in the other
16:25
episodes to me it didn't make it bad at
16:27
all it's just because they knock it out
16:31
of the park so many times mm-hmm this
16:33
felt just a little bit under that right
16:36
yeah there wasn't anything really
16:37
unexpected of this although I will say I
16:39
think it's because you called it like
16:41
you really called it but that said I
16:44
mean knew there wasn't anything
16:46
unexpected it was just wrapping up a
16:48
story in a really standard way yeah
16:50
alright let's get to the to the my new
16:53
shift my first issue starts at the very
16:57
beginning of this episode how security
16:59
is so lacks around invites layer in his
17:02
office like how did this cleaning lady
17:04
know about his vials of legacy in his
17:07
room yeah that was okay how did how did
17:10
she know the password it's interesting
17:13
idea yeah but how it was executed to me
17:17
was kind of yeah we don't really get
17:19
much of a sense of character they did
17:21
drop the ball a bit as far as developing
17:23
her as a person I think because I sort
17:26
of expected us to connect her
17:27
immediately with the daughter but we
17:29
don't get enough time with the daughter
17:31
who's really the mother to to really
17:34
make those connections I think as far as
17:36
character beets go right yeah okay I get
17:39
that
17:40
I think to be fair at that point I just
17:42
sort of hand waved it I just wanted to
17:43
get to the way that the story ended so
17:45
it's like okay fine at this point we
17:48
know that lady throughs got to be
17:49
adrián feeds daughter veidt's daughter
17:51
in some sort of ways so these this is
17:54
not the resolution I am looking for but
17:55
that's okay
17:56
see I'd even think about it until she
17:59
she did that hmm I loved I loved the
18:01
painting like looking down at her like
18:03
dude yeah get his hand up and yeah her
18:06
like oh yeah reminded me of you know in
18:08
those Buster's the painted Ghostbusters
18:10
- the painting just kind of like
18:11
disapproving looking disapprovingly down
18:13
on everybody Oh Vigo Vigo the Carpathian
18:19
that's right a theme but I think they
18:22
call them something this has nothing to
18:25
do with Watchmen moving on okay yeah
18:27
you're just and then I just feel like
18:30
they then shrew looks nothing like him -
18:32
I she looks like a legit just Vietnamese
18:36
person not mixed so it's a cool concept
18:40
but similar to like Angela man hadn't
18:41
having a thing but it feels a little but
18:45
not every mixed person who looks
18:47
quote-unquote mixed so I didn't have a
18:49
problem with that I mean okay I mean I'm
18:52
saying just that along with how the mom
18:55
got to the stuff mm-hmm
18:57
it just felt again other plot points the
19:00
show felt a little more organic in any
19:03
case understood yeah I think the thing
19:05
with fights whole storyline though is
19:07
that he really was just kind of there to
19:09
be a deus ex machina and of course
19:11
that's all of his all of his story beats
19:13
were so extraneous to the actual story
19:16
that were being told and to the themes
19:17
that we're being fed as far as this this
19:20
series goes but I could see why they
19:22
were kind of like so here's this and
19:23
here's this and here's this the end and
19:25
then get on with the rest of it because
19:27
we need vite in the end to do this thing
19:29
there's other thing that got cut up
19:31
we'll talk about that little okay
19:32
um and then fights apparently a virgin
19:35
it what he said I've never give myself
19:38
to a woman I don't participate in that
19:40
kind of but like my man you got a whole
19:43
vault of man milk back there you know
19:45
I'm saying like like why are you saving
19:47
it yeah yeah he's never get himself to
19:50
woman but those were like a lot of vials
19:52
bro like how did those get there yeah
19:53
there were hundreds of yeah like what in
19:55
so you know was all that purely in the
19:58
name of science
20:01
if anybody like I have to be honest if
20:03
you look at the old school the original
20:05
graphic novel right in vitam rorschach
20:07
or like the original OG in cells so the
20:13
tracks you know the dew stayed in an
20:15
Antarctic layer for nearly 40 years
20:17
alone I wonder what that safe looks like
20:19
now that's okay
20:24
we have spent how much time talking
20:25
about Adrian Veidt sperm can we please
20:27
move on to your next point of minutiae
20:29
oh yes we missed the post-credits scene
20:32
of him receiving that horseshoe we can
20:33
talk about that oh yeah
20:35
so I usually don't like to watch posted
20:38
credits because I don't really want to
20:39
watch the trailers for the next episode
20:41
I'd like to be surprised you know you
20:42
don't mean yeah so let's get to him one
20:44
on Europa and of course all the pieces
20:46
of Europa fall into place mm-hmm I had a
20:49
hunch about this he was in control of
20:50
everything the entire time he made all
20:53
this crap up just to entertain himself
20:54
yeah even that crazy core sequence where
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he's crying and being vilified and
20:59
tomatoes in his face from head from the
21:00
post-credits scene yes all a big show
21:02
yeah which dude is sick he really is
21:05
insane really a mess
21:07
so the fact that Laurie finally a
21:09
resident to have him locked up like I
21:11
agree I don't want this crazy guy with
21:13
that kind of power did you catch I
21:15
didn't realize but nobody knows who she
21:17
is and nobody ever figured it out so
21:19
like lookingglass was totally perplexed
21:21
as to how they even do each other he
21:24
nobody nobody figured out that laurie
21:25
juspeczyk is laurie juspeczyk they all
21:28
just knew her as the FBI agent nobody
21:30
knew she was there she was Silk Spectre
21:32
true except for vite and what's and well
21:36
we'll get to mr. blue and I made it but
21:38
you know yeah yeah so nobody knew that
21:40
she was actually the Silk Spectre except
21:42
for the people who knew her from before
21:44
and I didn't catch that until this last
21:46
episode everybody like it never came up
21:48
nobody put the pieces together so they
21:51
still just think she's some cranky anti
21:53
superhero FBI agent yeah they don't know
21:56
her history at all which I thought was
21:57
really cleverly done actually yeah
21:59
that's true I like fights talk to the
22:04
the game warden he was like watch it
22:06
give me a masks because masks make men
22:09
cruel and it's the irony of mm-hmm you
22:12
weren't you weren't cruel for killing
22:14
three
22:15
people mm-hmm but I guess you know he's
22:17
still wearing a max of being this
22:19
eccentric but beloved billionaire but
22:21
now that he's been arrested that mask
22:23
will come off mm-hmm
22:25
how do you prosecute Ozymandias who
22:27
saved the real talk twice what really
22:29
wants technically but does he heal after
22:34
this and even so I mean he's legally
22:38
dead so that's the process in and of
22:40
itself so at the very beginning of the
22:41
series they go into the faculty has been
22:43
declared legally dead and now he's back
22:45
and apparently a criminal that's a hard
22:47
sell so if we do eat another season
22:49
that's they're gonna have to do a lot
22:51
with that true or not who knows they
22:54
could just throw him in jail like Nite
22:55
Owl and we never see him let's talk
22:57
about the statue yeah okay so the time
23:04
that the time paradoxes are the time
23:06
line I guess was finally sorted out in
23:09
this episode and it was quite confusing
23:12
and actually a little disturbing like so
23:15
they basically froze Ozymandias in
23:17
carbonite to get him back to earth what
23:18
on earth well us I mean that's he was in
23:22
shoes Gardens since episode four exactly
23:24
he's just been there the whole time and
23:26
I guess when we were first introduced
23:29
lady true and she buys that farm so he
23:32
falls from the sky that's who she was
23:34
picking up precisely yep crazy but the
23:37
fact that he's just been chilling in her
23:38
garden as a statue until she needed him
23:41
speaking of I mean like father like
23:43
daughter
23:44
sick she Wildman in 2008 when she was in
23:47
Antarctica she said the satellite will
23:49
arrive five years 72 days 9 hours and 17
23:52
minutes from now
23:54
so about 2013 6 years before the finale
24:02
of this show mm-hmm she saw veidt's save
24:05
me daughter message right and then even
24:09
episode 4 she said as she was looking at
24:11
the statue with Angela so much of my
24:14
success grew from the seed of his
24:17
inspiration just you know I've been
24:21
listening to a lot of interviews with
24:24
the stars of the show and apparently
24:26
they didn't know the significance of all
24:28
these
24:29
pieces that were put together none of
24:31
them were told the big twist that cow is
24:33
actually dr. Manhattan until they were
24:35
filming that episode they were all
24:37
pulled into like offices separately
24:39
they're all like am I being fired
24:40
already
24:40
what's going on and then they're like
24:42
we're told all of the different twists
24:43
like you're actually adrian veidt's
24:44
daughter and you're dr. Manhattan and
24:47
you've been in love with dr. Manhattan
24:48
all this time and they had no idea so I
24:51
read a really good interview with Regina
24:53
King that just came out in the Los
24:54
Angeles Times this morning I don't know
24:56
if you've seen it yet yeah she says a
24:58
lot of really interesting things in
24:59
there but she said that she was tweeted
25:02
at by a fan who said basically it was in
25:05
front of us the whole time I can't
25:07
believe you kept the secret so well and
25:08
she was like what it was and she looks
25:10
and she's like oh yeah
25:10
there I am standing in a blue glow in my
25:13
sister night clothes of course it wasn't
25:15
me the whole time I didn't know either
25:16
so she had no idea Wow yeah none of them
25:20
did none of them knew what was going on
25:22
and they basically found out the story
25:24
as they were acting I was going that's
25:25
good yeah that's wild
25:27
I just think so you said originally are
25:30
for a big one episode 7 mm mm that
25:33
Drew's mother clone said that she would
25:37
as she knew who she was right I thought
25:39
she implied it she didn't say it all
25:41
right but yeah I think she just talked
25:43
about her memories or what she was
25:45
dreaming about but finally we learned
25:47
that she knew hmm either she's known the
25:50
whole time or as artists known for some
25:53
time yeah I still really thought she
25:55
implied that she knew but okay yeah I
25:58
think we really should have caught what
26:03
Looking Glass was up to he killed a man
26:05
the house and of course PD who is KY a
26:08
man wait what PT's KY a man I totally
26:14
didn't pick that up I was still
26:15
wondering I thought that was the last
26:17
loose end really yeah let me pull that
26:20
up for you what let's see here I'm so
26:26
confused so you were reading a bit of
26:30
the Wikipedia for this yeah yeah and PDP
26:34
dia there's a couple or there's there's
26:36
that one of the last articles talked
26:39
about how PD was fired or let go from
26:42
the
26:42
the eye because he was a superhero
26:45
enthusiast doing all this other stuff
26:47
and so it didn't didn't all-out say that
26:49
he was KY man but it implied that I
26:53
didn't get to the end of Peeta pedia
26:55
that's okay okay so yeah so so PD was KY
26:59
man yeah okay so PD saw that there was
27:03
one person in looking-glasses long curd
27:06
that had his mask off right and we
27:08
should have caught it right there that
27:11
was the clue I should have caught it I
27:12
didn't even think about it right yeah
27:14
because he's such a kind of side
27:16
character I'd even really give him any
27:17
right anytime I was yeah it's cool I
27:20
like that character he's cool I think
27:24
some of the biggest goodie curse from
27:28
the show listening no but just some that
27:31
really scramble my eggs was that Jud did
27:34
you say really scramble my eggs sir just
27:35
swear you know what I like I like more
27:39
colorful ways to talk okay okay you
27:41
sound like PD I've scrambled my eggs
27:43
please fill my egg sir
27:45
all right good and his wife new man had
27:47
Moscow the whole time yeah wild wild
27:53
Cyclops through the entire time once he
27:55
teleported that man to Arizona like wow
27:58
wow I gotta go bye man senator keen
28:02
though who had my second favorite quote
28:04
of the show I'm about to become the most
28:08
powerful man in the world wave my dick
28:10
in people's faces it's just overkill I
28:13
was very glad he didn't quite frankly
28:15
but even so yeah wow that was a line and
28:18
a half hate to agree with the white
28:20
supremacist but thank you right I think
28:25
yeah he did he was really good here
28:28
everything I've seen him in he's been
28:30
such a different person he's a very good
28:32
actor I hope he gets more screen time
28:33
and stuff he's good and blue Manta both
28:37
need a lot more roles yeah I totally
28:39
agree
28:40
also nice bodies on both of them not
28:43
gonna lie but I'm but wrap it up please
28:45
yeah please
28:46
I love how the conservative is is so
28:53
concerned about nudity and being polite
28:56
whereas Manhattan is like walking
28:59
through like oh who taught me to put
29:01
some clothes on yeah like like program
29:03
one right you were a human before all
29:04
this you know how this works
29:05
yeah can can your memories see yourself
29:08
putting clothes on I guess I got a
29:13
little thing about true so she played
29:15
the seven Calvary so they wouldn't see
29:17
her coming that's cool
29:18
but I fight there's kind of a hole there
29:20
like men had definitely saw and talked
29:24
to true in his cage he knew that he was
29:27
going to die he should have known that
29:29
she was a part of this mm-hmm but he's
29:32
also in the cage so it kind of made him
29:34
hard to be present yeah it was affecting
29:36
him I thought he knew no remember we
29:39
told Angela like the 7 Calvary are
29:42
outside of her house it was Cannon and
29:43
they're gonna teleport me so whatever
29:45
and they're going to kill me
29:47
that's what he said right he dimensions
29:49
true at all right true but ha ha true
29:52
but well yeah but I why who knows I
29:56
don't know okay fair enough
29:58
yeah I'll give it to them hmm and when
30:03
Manhattan or when Cal said don't touch
30:06
the light Angela what does that mean I
30:08
wondered about that too I was I'm still
30:11
not sure what that meant and that's kind
30:12
of my thing is like he knows things
30:15
beyond his death so how did he not know
30:18
about true like he was he told Angela
30:20
you need to see me walk on the water so
30:22
you know what to do well and then of
30:24
course don't touch the light I mean
30:25
there's so many things that he knows
30:26
going back to my theory I don't think
30:29
it's possible to kill dr. Manhattan his
30:31
whole genesis is being disassembled
30:34
molecular Li and then reassembling
30:36
himself with the power of his mind and
30:38
other things right exactly so I don't
30:41
think he's actually dead I think he's
30:43
going to be well if we get another
30:45
season or more comic books or whatever
30:47
they do I think he I don't think you can
30:50
kill him I think he's just extremely
30:51
disassociated for a while where it's
30:53
hard to know I think it's probably hard
30:55
to know things when you're putting
30:56
yourself back together molecule by
30:57
molecule hey so I don't know I think
30:59
that maybe he knows things from he knows
31:03
things from the future but because of
31:05
that because he's not gone but I'm not
31:08
sure
31:09
I think it would be consistent with the
31:11
character I am curious about where all
31:14
that energy wins because when he got
31:18
absorbed it was a big blast yeah he was
31:21
but once the Gatlin shrimp came down it
31:24
just kind of blacked out the orb like
31:26
there was no explosion from that or any
31:28
dissipation so but it was like his his
31:31
creation essentially same thing mmm just
31:35
maybe a difference in degree but I don't
31:38
think he's gone okay
31:40
we're winding down here I want to talk
31:43
about my favorite quote and I'm sure you
31:47
can guess what that is go for it you
31:50
can't heal under a mask
31:51
Angela moons need air so this is why
31:55
yeah yeah this is why I didn't have a
32:00
problem with all the rapid up be kinda
32:02
neat sewing up of plot lines is because
32:05
there were some beautiful relational
32:07
moments and some beautiful quotes and
32:09
just some beautiful acting in between
32:11
the characters that last scene with
32:13
Angela and her grandfather was just
32:16
beautiful and it wrapped up that whole
32:18
theme of generation
32:20
yeah and wrapped up all that
32:21
generational trauma it wrapped up the
32:23
individual characters arcs it was just
32:27
really well done on so many levels so
32:29
even though I was like I mean again it's
32:32
kind of the hand wave a lot I gave it to
32:35
him I give it to him because at the end
32:37
of the day they wrapped up the story by
32:38
just wrapping up the story they didn't
32:40
try it over clever themselves like they
32:43
I was worried they would because lost
32:44
they didn't try and over clever
32:46
themselves they just said okay here
32:47
we're at the end of the story the bad
32:49
guy needs to die the good guys need to
32:51
find some resolution and love each other
32:53
and we need to maybe have a future you
32:57
need to show some hope for them and they
32:59
did that let's carry that quote into
33:02
2020 yo yeah yeah spurt ourselves mm-hmm
33:08
I think it's kind of metaphor the thing
33:10
like can America heal if it doesn't
33:12
acknowledge and confront its ugly
33:14
history with slavery very much solutions
33:16
and even if you throw money at a problem
33:18
mm-hmm are we still hiding behind an
33:20
overall systemic
33:21
problem right you're still masking
33:23
dangers within our own country you can
33:26
get all of the revenge and all of the
33:27
justice that you want but if it's under
33:29
a hood is it really effective right yeah
33:34
it totally just and this is kind of
33:36
we're kind of gonna kind of cross over
33:38
into what we would want to see from the
33:40
second season so maybe I'll just save it
33:41
for that link so I was right that Angela
33:46
did get the powers she did I was also
33:49
right that will did take pass Reeves
33:51
last name you were right yeah you
33:52
totally called it and you were right
33:54
about the egg I wasn't really buying it
33:56
but you you were right props to you we
33:59
don't get to see her with the powers
34:01
which was kind of an exciting thing to
34:03
end on like that kind of classic
34:04
superhero kind of superhero movie
34:06
cliffhanger like old seventies superhero
34:08
70s and 80s superhero movies we have
34:10
that last scene where you're like is he
34:12
gonna fly we don't know that was kind of
34:14
what it was I saw that I mean I saw that
34:17
coming so yeah and on that note let's
34:22
talk about next season mm-hmm if there
34:25
is one so there were rumors about this
34:29
show having Lowell fewer ship but
34:31
apparently it a verge de bout seven
34:33
million people a show across the
34:37
channels and streaming platforms for
34:39
context Game of Thrones series finale
34:41
took in 19 million
34:43
mm-hmm but Watchmen was HBO's most
34:46
popular new series of this year right
34:49
which makes sense mm-hmm so I want to go
34:52
to the creator Damon Lindelof words
34:56
about whether he must do a sequel or not
34:58
yeah and so he this is from variety he
35:02
said I am deeply profoundly appreciative
35:05
for how well received the season has
35:06
been up until now and I don't want to
35:08
feel like I want grateful but I still
35:11
don't have any inclination whatsoever to
35:13
continue the story and that is largely
35:15
an almost exclusively based on the fact
35:17
that I don't have an idea mm-hmm if I'm
35:20
going to be involved in any more
35:21
Watchmen I should be able to answer
35:23
those questions why and why now and the
35:26
answers to all those questions shouldn't
35:28
be well because that's what you do
35:30
because the first one was good hey you
35:32
know props to him I respect that he said
35:34
that that's
35:35
aren't good good for him it's funny
35:37
because Regina King said a similar thing
35:39
in her LA Times interview she basically
35:41
talked about the fact that yeah it'd be
35:43
great to play this blue-black superhero
35:47
woman who's basically the black lady dr.
35:50
Manhattan system Ann Hatton she said
35:52
it'd be great to play that and to
35:54
explore that idea but she also really
35:56
just loves storytelling and because she
35:58
loves storytelling she's okay with
35:59
letting the story be itself so if
36:03
there's a way to create more story that
36:05
makes sense then she'd be up for it but
36:07
she just thinks that this story was
36:08
perfect the way it is which again I
36:10
really respect I really hate these
36:13
moneygrab sequels where you just make
36:16
another story because you feel like you
36:18
can because people will pay to see it in
36:21
Star Wars
36:22
but even so just I feel like as creators
36:28
there's such a tension between being
36:31
creative and getting paid for being
36:32
creative that it's very easy to kind of
36:34
sell out in that way where you just
36:36
continue telling a story with characters
36:37
because you're getting money for it
36:39
because people will see it no matter
36:40
what it is you say so I really respect
36:44
that they're kind of respecting the
36:48
story respect letting the story be
36:50
complete in and of itself and if there
36:52
is another complete story out there then
36:54
they'll tell it but they don't have to
36:55
and I really like that because they did
36:56
a really good job here and they needed
36:58
to leave it that way I think maybe Alan
37:02
Moore will step away from his witch's
37:03
cauldron now give us some sound bites
37:05
I think this pleases him well now that
37:08
you know labor lost he may be even more
37:10
bitter this is true this is true he's
37:12
probably adding I have nude as we speak
37:14
I have this mental image of Alan Moore
37:16
as a witch but I just do for some reason
37:18
I don't know why it needs to be in the
37:20
next uh Harry Potter spin-off I swear
37:22
that dude lives in the gingerbread house
37:23
every time I see him I don't know why I
37:25
just have this mental image of him being
37:26
like that Oh anyway yeah I just wanna do
37:32
one more quote from deadlines then we'll
37:33
get to our our thoughts here so he said
37:35
after the finale aired he said I don't
37:38
know that's the answer whether he wants
37:41
to seep or not all I can say is I've
37:43
consistently believed and I still
37:44
believe that these night episodes are a
37:46
complete story with the begin
37:48
middle and end I have to acknowledge
37:50
that not everyone's going to see it that
37:52
way and I definitely don't dispute any
37:54
opinion that's sort of like there should
37:57
be more I just don't feel compelled to
37:59
continue the story without a reason to
38:01
do so the reason should be a creative
38:02
reason idea-driven
38:04
and I don't have any ideas for
38:06
subsequent seasons of Watchmen currently
38:09
mmm you know what here here I think that
38:12
people like Margaret Atwood for example
38:14
could totally take a page from his book
38:17
you know who market out what is no okay
38:20
Margaret wrote Atwood wrote The
38:21
Handmaid's Tale which has been made into
38:23
a very popular hulu season and the
38:26
season the TV show went past where the
38:28
book naturally ends in the book the
38:30
original book The Handmaid's Tale is
38:32
definitely a classic but it was released
38:34
in the 80s and our it was a dystopia one
38:36
of the first modern dystopias I think
38:40
modern dystopic novels released it's
38:43
about this very dark anti-feminist
38:46
religiously fundamentalist America and
38:49
the thing is society marches on time
38:52
marches on and so to our concepts of
38:54
dystopia and our ideas our understanding
38:56
of the broader world and the people in
38:58
them but Margaret Atwood for some reason
39:02
sided to write a sequel to The
39:04
Handmaid's Tale thirty years later that
39:08
kind of starts where the original book
39:11
leaves off but tries to also be updated
39:14
and it just doesn't go over well at all
39:16
and I kind of wish that she'd done that
39:18
too because the Hulu series was good for
39:20
one season and now it's awful mm-hmm I
39:22
think I might get lynched for that I
39:25
know there are loads of people who love
39:26
it but for me it's honestly just
39:27
American Horror Story white feminism so
39:29
I'm not into it I haven't seen a lot of
39:31
black folks like I don't know but yeah
39:38
it depends I mean so I I really again I
39:40
really respect that I think more
39:42
storytellers more creators need to do
39:44
that let us story be a story tell the
39:46
story
39:47
speaking of story look at Toy Story I
39:48
mean those guys didn't just have some
39:51
like we're gonna pull out a movie every
39:52
two years they really took their time
39:54
and when they were inspired to do
39:56
something they really made magic every
39:58
time exactly that's how you tell more
40:01
story you tell it and
40:02
fair even with Toy Story they're not
40:04
necessarily doing a new story every time
40:06
but there's so much heart to it and you
40:08
can there's care and genuine creativity
40:11
that goes into every and detail oh my
40:13
gosh just artisan ship that goes into
40:15
every installment that it makes sense
40:19
but to just rush and make another season
40:22
would be a bad idea so I'm glad that
40:24
they didn't I'm glad he is I'm glad that
40:25
the actors and the showrunner are all
40:29
very being very wise about this and
40:32
being very authentic to the art of it
40:34
because honestly the Watchmen was art we
40:36
don't like I said I was worried at the
40:38
beginning of when we began to review
40:40
this I kind of thought the Golden Age of
40:41
TV was coming to a close but clearly not
40:44
because this is still very good very
40:46
good
40:46
and on that note let's talk about what
40:48
we would like to see if there was a
40:51
season to go first so you want me to
40:55
show some things off go for it okay I
40:58
want to talk about if there will be an
41:00
overall enemy change so in the
41:02
Washington took the enemy was nuclear
41:04
annihilation and this one it was white
41:07
supremacy mm-hmm so what could it be
41:11
for this news show and so of course now
41:14
that angela is a black woman with God
41:16
powers I thought howtechs sir you really
41:24
had me going for a second I was like wow
41:27
he's thought this through really you see
41:36
this black woman had to suck up to a
41:38
white man to achieve greatness i intake
41:41
the white man's reparations money I do
41:43
everything by myself hotep Calvary
41:45
Angela where are you it's May 6th 2012
41:52
in man's planed to about why black
41:55
panther is it better superhero than me
41:57
because he doesn't take from the white
41:59
man so what you're saying is dr. Umar
42:01
Johnson fight out of jail in the first
42:03
episode hey you started this they do a
42:07
dr. oz the man Diaz clone hybrid
42:11
[Laughter]
42:15
he catches bullets but nobody ever sees
42:17
them Wow this is what you all you all
42:26
show up for it oh my gosh okay seriously
42:34
though okay I mean I was kind of serious
42:36
there but I wasn't but let's I want to
42:41
see the positive impossible negative
42:45
repercussions of reparations because mmm
42:49
one Mike one of my problems that I
42:52
didn't realize until after the show
42:54
ended was what did reparations really
42:57
root out in this universe like I really
42:59
wish they would explored that like what
43:01
did black America truly look like
43:03
because we only saw one family and even
43:06
that film was a little bit they were
43:08
particularly bloody only one person in
43:11
the family was actually black right you
43:13
had you had a black guy or a blue guy in
43:16
blackface
43:16
a white blue man in blackface and a
43:19
black woman blanket John Jackson yeah
43:22
and even she was kind of taken away from
43:24
her culture surrounded by Klan members
43:30
yeah so so what did the rest of what the
43:33
rest of black America looked like after
43:34
liberation scuzz always see was this
43:35
museum but nothing really that talked
43:38
about you know yeah that's a very good
43:41
point so I called this the blackish show
43:42
of the year but there are precious few
43:45
black people in this very black show I
43:48
mean there's a lot of callbacks to black
43:50
culture but it really is just the
43:52
intense experience of two black people
43:54
grandfather and Angela yeah and then
43:56
overall this world is actually pretty
43:58
underpopulated like even downtown Tulsa
44:00
whenever we get to downtown Tulsa
44:02
there's never any people they're not
44:04
even walking their dogs taking a jog
44:06
anything so right I think that's
44:09
explainable by just the effects of the
44:12
squid giant squid and just the the
44:14
ripples that that ripple effect that had
44:16
on the world population I think maybe
44:19
maybe mm-hmm but the squiz weren't
44:22
frozen so they don't really hurt anybody
44:23
the original like huge a huge like
44:28
killing half the population of New York
44:30
and just the ripple effect that that has
44:32
on just global population issues just
44:37
from the and then the psychic shockwaves
44:38
and all of that other stuff that
44:39
happened with that I'm out maybe maybe
44:41
mm-hmm anyway I would like if they do do
44:44
a second sequel I like them to maybe
44:46
just do a little world building on that
44:47
level but Haley would care like you did
44:50
with the first season I mean it was fast
44:52
food everything was massively done in
44:53
regards to black people in drama and I
44:56
just like to see them on a positive
44:58
level what can happen as I think you
45:01
talked about before of just a lot of
45:04
writers these days don't have a lot of
45:05
imagination for yeah for the future the
45:08
future and we don't really have yeah and
45:09
I would love to see someone illustrate
45:12
that beautifully right yeah yeah okay
45:15
well so I realized I spent a whole lot
45:19
of time talking about the fact that I
45:20
think this story is complete the way it
45:21
is and you don't need to continue it and
45:23
I'm gonna stand by that for the most
45:24
part I will say this though I don't
45:27
necessarily have any specific ideas of
45:29
what they should do for another season
45:30
if they have one but if they do it needs
45:33
to be another big idea so going into the
45:36
season I had no idea that the overall
45:38
villain the overall problem was white
45:41
supremacy I think that if you're gonna
45:44
go into a future season you've got to
45:46
have an idea of that magnitude which is
45:47
why it might take a while because white
45:50
supremacy is very much the Bugaboo and
45:53
every American's closet right now well
45:57
maybe not every but many of us um I
46:01
don't know what else is out there of
46:05
that magnitude at this point so it might
46:08
be a while before there's another season
46:09
and it might be long enough that we
46:11
would have to have a complete changeover
46:13
of cast which I mean who knows the
46:17
beauty of this is that it's kind of got
46:19
that it's very tapped into I guess the
46:24
social zeitgeist I suppose kind of like
46:26
where are all of our minds and hearts
46:28
and what's in the collective
46:29
consciousness right now but I don't know
46:32
what that would be but so who knows
46:34
what's coming next really it takes a
46:36
smarter person and a better storyteller
46:37
than me to know but yeah it that's all
46:41
I'll say
46:41
I don't
46:42
any specific ideas but it needs to be a
46:45
something of that size it could maybe be
46:47
something about I don't know
46:48
globalization about the changing face of
46:53
human migration of you know refugee
46:55
issues although I don't know how you
46:57
would do that exactly but you know just
46:59
these kinds of ideas you know I have
47:01
another quote from Lindelof and he says
47:03
I'll have a greater sense of perspective
47:05
a couple of months from now but I will
47:07
say that we said from the jump that if
47:10
the big bad of the season is white
47:11
supremacy were not going to be defeating
47:14
white supremacy in Episode nine of
47:16
Watchmen that said you interpret the
47:18
ending of Watchmen the way that I think
47:20
most people will interpret it is that
47:23
white supremacy is in big trouble moving
47:25
forward and I'm not necessarily sure we
47:27
need to dramatize what it looks like
47:29
moving forward but if indeed Angella a
47:32
bar has got even a fraction of dr.
47:35
Manhattan's powers given the journey
47:37
that she went over the course of his
47:40
episodes I think she is primed and ready
47:42
to do something more impactful then dr.
47:45
Manhattan ever did and so I want to go
47:49
there I'll go back to your idea a little
47:51
bit later but I want to talk about
47:52
Angela
47:53
how does Anza do with her powers mm-hmm
47:56
given her upbringing it's different from
47:58
dr. Manhattan John wasn't anything too
48:01
special he's just a scientist who got
48:02
powers but she was such a fighter in
48:04
this show would she still be a slave to
48:07
her own destiny like John was because
48:09
we're only really interpreting John's
48:11
powers through his own mind but what if
48:13
it's in the mind of someone else because
48:15
even if lady true was a egomaniac was
48:18
she over time or immediately just become
48:20
so intelligent that she also becomes
48:22
like but she also be very disassociated
48:24
it was possibly although I think I think
48:27
it's the grandfather who says that she's
48:29
a absolute narcissist and that that kind
48:32
of power just sort of intensifies over
48:34
time would intensify if she got godlike
48:37
powers mm-hmm at first she'd have great
48:38
intentions and disassociation or not she
48:41
would eventually become the worst
48:44
aspects of her personality which is very
48:46
much what happens with John he was
48:48
always a very disassociated person and
48:50
becoming this godlike person just sort
48:52
of intensified that and I don't know if
48:54
you know this but I used to work in
48:56
like spiritual work like ministry I
48:58
worked for a church for many years and
48:59
one thing that I realized when I was
49:01
doing that is that really religion in
49:04
and of itself religious devotion doesn't
49:07
necessarily change a person way that
49:09
people believe it does I think it just
49:10
intensifies the strongest parts of your
49:13
personality in a lot of situations if
49:15
you are a hyper conservative fearful
49:19
suspicious person who's very much about
49:22
my mind mind get away from my bone then
49:24
you become a right-wing fundamentalist
49:27
in under the guise of religious devotion
49:29
and if you are not that you become a
49:32
different kind of person I mean it just
49:33
I think that really that so if religion
49:36
is an intensifier then godlike powers
49:38
also function that way it's my point
49:39
okay I would think so my question to you
49:43
then would be so my question to you
49:46
would be what are the worst parts of
49:48
Angela's personality and the best parts
49:50
of our personality what would be
49:51
intensified through that so for John the
49:54
worst part was disassociation and the
49:56
best part was intelligence
49:57
all of that was intestine was
49:58
intensified for Angela what would that
50:00
be I think she's definitely loyal
50:08
mmm-hmm and a care giver I mean she does
50:12
seek a family and I guess community
50:18
mm-hmm so how so you know John was kind
50:22
of a slave to the government for a time
50:23
and then he just left mm-hmm but what
50:25
Angela just be she would be a lot
50:28
different in that regard I'm very much
50:29
so not a slave cuz obviously she's been
50:31
disillusioned with authority at this
50:33
point from her grandfather and her own
50:35
experience right so is she gonna start
50:39
just obliterating governments well
50:41
that's the thing because she's got
50:42
something that John never had which is a
50:44
temper true so he'd never really went
50:48
off on anybody and just responders made
50:50
him so horrifying and hard trauma mm-hmm
50:52
yeah so I mean that's the thing you know
50:57
we don't really have a lot of super
50:59
heroes of color and there were no people
51:01
of color really involved in the original
51:03
Watchmen but we don't have that because
51:05
we have sort of these stories of solo
51:07
trauma we have very few
51:09
Kanon superheroes really big canon
51:12
superheroes who come from is from
51:14
histories of generational trauma maybe
51:16
magneto that's kind of it so no matter
51:21
what they do if they keep Angela which
51:23
they're going to have to in some aspect
51:24
as a main character if they continue the
51:26
show that's really a game changer yeah
51:28
because I think it hits different if
51:31
you're not Batman who maybe your parents
51:33
died it it's different if you're
51:35
somebody who comes from a history of
51:36
generational trauma and in just torture
51:41
and death and pain you know that's a
51:43
whole different kind of legacy if you
51:46
imbue a superhero with that that's a lot
51:49
and that's a very tricky line to tread I
51:52
think
51:52
watch out racists right so I'm gonna get
51:56
to my idea and I think this could
52:00
personally possibly fit in this universe
52:03
and that is the advent of greater
52:08
technology because we know that
52:09
technology there's some futuristic stuff
52:11
that's in this universe but some that
52:13
it's not and even impeded p2p dia mm-hmm
52:16
they're starting to introduce computers
52:18
and the email and the Internet is
52:21
calming so could we do another time
52:25
time jump hmm years into the future
52:27
we're blanket who also I'd the superhero
52:30
costume could become a superhero himself
52:32
mm-hmm lady throughs mother clone could
52:34
become a villain herself there could be
52:36
some some kind of like Kill Bill like
52:38
rivalry like when you grow up come in
52:40
come and see me sometime or mmm
52:42
interesting
52:43
there are things that I think could be
52:44
played with don't know I think they
52:46
should be done I think it'd be really
52:49
cool to maybe start reading fanfiction
52:51
that may come out of this okay in the
52:53
next couple years
52:54
there's nothing happened with like
52:55
various I care even hotter if you like
52:57
that I think it'd be really cool to see
52:58
what folks want to play with yeah
52:59
definitely yeah that's a very good point
53:02
yeah that'd be interesting also the
53:06
other thing that would change with
53:07
Angela with dr. Manhattan's powers is
53:09
again he was a scientist she's not there
53:12
would he part of the reason that there's
53:13
all of these unusual sort of
53:15
technological advancements is because
53:17
this is stuff the doctor Manhattan came
53:19
up with but what happens if he put that
53:22
kind of innovative power and they
53:23
the hands of somebody who's determined
53:26
to change people's hearts and minds and
53:29
the way society works as opposed to
53:31
building cool new toys and scientific
53:34
advancements you know actually the more
53:37
I talk about this the more I think it
53:38
could be cool but again I don't think
53:40
we're necessarily I don't think it has
53:42
to be done now also I think the most
53:44
interesting is the quote from the
53:47
grandfather you can't you can't heal
53:50
under masks so now that Angela really
53:51
has nothing to fear and has to end can
53:54
take her mask off to get justice how
53:57
does that change her perspective like is
53:59
the anger gone now
54:00
yeah and war is intensified in some
54:02
other way right does that mean enormous
54:05
strides in humanity's healing rather
54:08
than in humanity's technology does she
54:10
become a tool for peace as opposed to a
54:11
tool for war like I said this whole
54:13
making a black woman a superhero really
54:16
makes the standard trope of trauma leads
54:19
to revenge leads to justice really makes
54:21
that hit different yeah mm-hmm I
54:26
returned to my thesis that this is the
54:28
blackest show on television this year
54:30
didn't have a whole lot of black people
54:31
but yeah this definitely gets you
54:33
thinking about us as a culture doesn't
54:35
it absolutely again I would love to see
54:38
anyone with fan fiction about Angela and
54:41
just what that would look like with her
54:43
in it I like maybe I may do some of that
54:46
on the weekend or my vacation yo is
54:49
there a fan fiction section on blurred
54:50
comm not sure but I'll talk to the guys
54:54
about yeah because you rarely find that
54:59
I remember looking for black fan fiction
55:01
or fanfiction by black people I suppose
55:03
back when the first of the new Star Trek
55:06
movies came out and I found all this
55:08
weird stuff about who rat Spock and was
55:11
totally turned off on fan fiction at
55:12
that moment in time okay and it's taken
55:15
me years to get back into it like I
55:16
still AM real gun-shy like but lost I'm
55:19
just like um I don't know if I need that
55:21
so yeah anyway well I don't to run out
55:23
too long so I will talk to the board
55:27
comm guys about that and I want to give
55:31
it out to you guys like what do you all
55:32
think of watchman's series finale what
55:36
you guys think of our analyses
55:37
give us our pass on the back for
55:39
guessing things yeah actually somebody
55:41
did actually on the page I saw yeah that
55:43
was a Javon he's uh he's actually a
55:45
member of but but I come back out I
55:47
found her Oh dope cool cool guy before
55:49
we head out I didn't want to talk really
55:51
quick about our favorite flirty
55:53
Christmas moments yes
55:55
I literally realized yesterday that
55:57
Christmas is next week yeah I'm not
55:59
ready I'm not doing anything I total I'm
56:02
doing something but I I'm not prepared
56:04
at all for it I put up my Christmas tree
56:05
like the day after Thanksgiving like in
56:08
your own apartment in my Park yeah my
56:09
Harmon I put up my Christmas tree but I
56:11
that's the only day I have look I like
56:13
Christmas I have loads of decorations
56:15
and I've put up a tree and that's it
56:16
like I just have I don't even know where
56:18
my other decorations are I should put
56:20
them all up yeah
56:21
I've been playing Christmas music but
56:22
not as intensely as usual I'm just it's
56:24
been an interesting year and interesting
56:26
semester so I have not been on my
56:28
Christmas grind the way I usually am so
56:30
I'm not ready I've got to like do all of
56:31
the things in four days I have homies
56:34
here that are from outside of the
56:37
country who are just lonely so I'm just
56:39
gonna hang out and just kind of I think
56:40
that would mean more for them for those
56:42
who don't know Christmas is more of a
56:44
couple holiday here as opposed to a
56:45
family one and if you don't have family
56:48
in the country that sucks and if you're
56:51
single and you're seeing all these
56:52
couples walking around that's obviously
56:55
things yeah
56:55
and it for me well I won't go there I I
57:02
see in my future I'm having a dr.
57:04
Manhattan moment it's December 25th 2020
57:07
and I go to Brendan's house and drag him
57:08
outside to not be a miserable git for
57:10
the day okay let's go to our our
57:14
favorite Christmas moments and do I
57:17
start off or you mean do me go you start
57:19
since I mean I'm sure yours gonna be
57:20
shorter than mine give me what we just
57:22
talked about no okay okay my my cuffs
57:24
are just being a kid okay this is I got
57:26
three councils when I was growing up and
57:28
it was the genesis the PlayStation the
57:30
Dreamcast and all of the Jim cats my
57:32
favorite system all the time the
57:35
PlayStation story is my favorite because
57:36
I there was a bag like a carry case
57:40
under my tree and I opened up I think
57:44
the the small pouch and I was like oh
57:48
what I have these two games wow it was
57:50
it was
57:51
racer and Tekken tuned like wow these
57:52
games but I don't have a there's no
57:55
system for what and I felt so kind of
57:59
just I was so happy at first and I just
58:00
kind of got let down and then my mom
58:03
literally just pointed a few degrees to
58:05
the right and there it was I was like oh
58:10
[Music]
58:11
and I played the hell out of those games
58:15
and yeah and of course me buying Metal
58:18
Gear Solid that just catapulted my my
58:22
love for games after that like I was
58:23
buying magazines and looking scouring
58:25
the net for everything after that so but
58:27
the PlayStation was kind of my jump
58:29
point to really being into games the way
58:31
I am now oh that's really nice actually
58:34
yeah how are you hmm
58:37
okay so my family does Christmas big
58:40
okay big big big okay but as far as a
58:43
blurry memory okay y'all know I'm a
58:46
reading nerd I read all the time
58:48
actually finished my Goodreads challenge
58:49
today 100 books this year Wow I read a
58:52
lot part of it is because I don't drive
58:55
some of us on public transportation and
58:57
I crack open a book and read some and
58:59
most of the time and people are like you
59:00
know if you open up your phone and are
59:01
like on social media or something I'm
59:03
usually reading something because the
59:05
Kindle has an app so that's part of it
59:08
but the other part is I just really love
59:09
reading mmm and I remember vividly so I
59:11
I also learned to read at a really young
59:13
age because you know blurred here and my
59:17
father is a habit avid reader so I have
59:20
to blurred parents mm-hmm my father is
59:23
my book parent and my mother is my movie
59:25
parent hmm so my father is the parent
59:27
who like sat me down and got me into
59:29
like fantasy and sci-fi and all of that
59:30
my mother is the person who showed me
59:32
Star Wars for the first time had me
59:34
watching like old Flash Gordon like all
59:37
the all the blurred movies Coenen
59:40
Highlander all of that from my mom let's
59:42
do anyway that's my that's my dad well
59:44
it's really cool so when I was seven
59:49
years old I got my first full set of
59:55
fantasy chapter books under the
59:58
Christmas tree
59:59
was The Chronicles of Narnia okay that
60:03
was my first real like kind of almost
60:05
sort of grown up fantasy reeks it was
60:07
like a whole series of chapter books
60:09
mm-hmm and I just remember sitting under
60:12
the Christmas tree and reading and just
60:15
like being in a completely different
60:17
world just in that really magically
60:18
Christmas atmosphere with like snow and
60:20
a tree and warm blankets and hot cocoa
60:23
and cookies and good food smells coming
60:25
from the kitchen and you know nobody's
60:28
family's perfect but that was definitely
60:30
a perfect family moment I just remember
60:31
the look on my dad's face and he was
60:33
like I got you some books cuz even then
60:35
like that was the way to my heart you
60:37
know I got you some books and it was
60:40
just really cool yeah so yeah so yeah so
60:43
that's how I got started I think on this
60:46
like devouring books thing that's
60:49
beautiful yeah cool yeah so Narnia will
60:53
always have a special place in my heart
60:55
yeah that's where you'd oh yeah now go
60:59
home sick brother might you make me talk
61:01
about this I'm sorry I miss my family at
61:03
Christmas we ain't perfect but they
61:05
family all right Oh blurred down this is
61:12
this is be cool it's about time for us
61:14
to wrap up yeah I want to end this show
61:17
on something that actually marquita
61:20
shared hmm and it's a really I think
61:23
important quote to end the year on and
61:26
we look forward to the next year mm-hmm
61:29
um this is kind of actually one of the
61:33
hardest years of my life if not the
61:34
hardest year of my life um I started
61:36
masters this year along with the podcast
61:38
and a full-time job and relationship and
61:42
some of those didn't work out so well
61:43
and so I took that pretty hard but I'm
61:47
really looking forward to next year and
61:50
Marquitos quote really kind of got me in
61:53
higher spirits and so I want to read it
61:54
to you guys so hopefully it'll resonate
61:55
with you all I know we are in the yearly
61:58
recap phase on social media and everyone
62:01
is announcing their biggest wins but
62:03
please don't compare yourself in your
62:04
progress to others if your biggest
62:06
achievement was just staying alive then
62:09
that's a win too
62:12
so shout out to marquita for that ya got
62:15
back to us soon
62:15
ya know ya where are you girl anyway
62:18
she's grindin but yeah we miss you yeah
62:22
come talk about games I can't talk about
62:24
games so please come talk about games
62:26
yeah anyway so yeah please share it sure
62:30
your favorite Christmas dirty moments
62:32
with us in the comments again please
62:35
find us on Spotify at Apple podcasts
62:36
subscribe give us a review they really
62:39
help us out if you have any fan
62:42
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62:44
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62:49
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62:52
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62:56
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62:59
nerdy content from black cultural lens
63:01
we'll get at them about that fan fiction
63:03
yeah they're really really cool um next
63:06
year for January we're looking at
63:09
possibly doing a show about our favorite
63:14
albums of the decade okay I also want to
63:19
do if I can as a possible collaboration
63:22
with another podcast our favorite rap
63:25
albums of 2019 okay and we'll see what
63:29
else we got going on dope Merry
63:32
Christmas and Happy New Year guys thanks
63:34
for listening to us all this year you've
63:36
appreciated you yeah for real it's been
63:38
a year and a half now doing this can you
63:40
been gosh
63:41
oh just about it was just yesterday I
63:43
was like running up on you in a random
63:45
restaurant like you have a blurred
63:46
podcast let me on be anyway
63:49
Happy New Year Merry Christmas and we'll
63:52
see you guys in the new decade Happy
63:55
Holidays free you man Deus we was kings 

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