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00:00 blow it up blow it up welcome to the 00:02 show where we talk about nerd culture 00:04 from a bee POV a black POV you can find 00:08 us on facebook at BL er DUP you can find 00:11 us on instagram @ BL ER d period u p we 00:14 are also on twitter @ BL e rd you and 00:18 check us out on blur comm really cool 00:21 site full of great content they're 00:22 running a really cool sale on this 00:24 animate collection of really cool anime 00:26 characters with the blurred logo kind of 00:28 blurred Verta fiying them like luffy and 00:31 kiwi Freeman Naruto you have your Ichi 00:37 from Bleach really cool stuff and of 00:40 course I'm joined by my co-host Mel say 00:42 what's up good so today we're going to 00:47 talk about the latest episode of 00:50 Watchmen before that we're going to talk 00:52 about Billy Dee Williams has been in the 00:56 news for some for an interesting reason 00:58 right and if you have a little time 01:00 we're going to talk about Saul Williams 01:02 having a little beef with Jay Z alright 01:06 so let's get into Billy Dee Williams of 01:09 course everyone knows he is mr. Colt 45 01:14 himself in my view probably the second 01:18 coolest black fictional character in 01:20 movies second in sci-fi I'll say inside 01:23 ok mm-hmm 01:25 Lando Calrissian okay so why is he 01:26 second who's first Morpheus fair enough 01:29 okay but you know Lando Calrissian flew 01:33 so that Morpheus could enter the matrix 01:35 so you know yeah yeah 01:38 they definitely have a demo Morpheus had 01:40 older debt to Lando I'll say that okay 01:42 mm-hmm yeah yes yeah definitely Lando is 01:47 iconic 01:48 but Billy Dee is also iconic in and of 01:51 himself I mean he's such a symbol of 01:53 smooth black masculinity right over time 01:55 I mean he was in mahogany he was in a 01:57 lot of really good movies and kind of 01:59 was very much a sex symbol he did the 02:01 Colt 45 ads but where is he now well 02:05 let's talk about that hmm 02:07 shoutout to Draper who actually isn't 02:09 with us anymore he moved out of Korea 02:12 doing bigger and better things 02:13 wish him I wish we could have given him 02:16 a proper send-off but our schedules 02:17 never mashed up miss you anyway he sent 02:21 us a story in the group chat about Billy 02:24 Dee Williams mr. Colt 45 himself 02:27 revealed himself to be gender-fluid 02:30 write that story blue it really did 02:34 there were memes of Billy Dee standing 02:36 in front of all kinds of flags and like 02:39 people were saying it's this amazing how 02:40 we're so free now the elders can speak 02:43 their truth but did you see the update 02:45 on this story I have yeah and you know 02:48 before we get there mm-hmm 02:50 I I saw an article in essence magazine 02:54 hmm and the boomers were not happy the 02:57 first rule of the Internet has never 02:58 read the comments except for our 03:00 comments leave us comments but you know 03:01 I actually like to read comments on some 03:03 things anyway they were not happy about 03:06 that reveal the general consensus was he 03:11 was just trying to stay relevant Wow 03:14 harsh so a man who is about to be in one 03:17 of the biggest franchise movies of all 03:19 time needs to reveal how he feels about 03:23 his gender to promote himself and a 03:26 movie that will make a billion dollars 03:28 in a week in any way that's such a 03:30 strange thing to say yeah he needed to 03:33 stay irrelevant because I don't I don't 03:35 think he's ever really stopped being 03:36 relevant I don't know I mean he's not a 03:39 sex symbol anymore but he definitely 03:42 left his mark on the culture sure I mean 03:45 he's not hot anymore 03:46 yeah but of course as you said mark on 03:49 the coals and what does hot even mean 03:50 anymore I mean like there's so much 03:52 media out there that everything is so 03:53 diffused like if you ask 10 people who's 03:55 hot they're all gonna give you different 03:57 answers I mean there's not really 03:59 household names don't really function 04:00 the same way they used to or I mean just 04:02 talked about that's what I mean that's 04:03 what I'm talking about yes I mean 04:05 household names don't function the same 04:06 way anymore 04:07 so it's not I don't know relevance is a 04:11 tricky thing I think but the internet 04:13 and this the sheer amount of media 04:15 that's presented and how many people 04:17 only watch things that are old or only 04:19 watch things that are new or only watch 04:20 things from a certain provider that kind 04:22 of thing I 04:23 that's such a strange criticism to me 04:25 yeah I mean like most boomer criticism 04:28 so I guess anyway let's get to that 04:31 update because all isn't what it seems 04:34 in an interview with the undefeated 04:38 Billy Dee Williams eggs well first of 04:45 all I asked last night what the hell is 04:48 gender fluid that's a whole new term 04:52 what I was talking about was about men 04:55 getting in touch with the softer side of 04:58 themselves there's a phrase that was 05:00 coined by Carl G Jung who was a 05:02 psychiatrist who was a contemporary of 05:05 Sigmund Freud and they had a splitting 05:08 of the ways because they had different 05:10 ideas about them what do you call it 05:13 consciousness unconscious it's 05:17 collective unconsciousness but he coined 05:20 a phrase that's anima animus an anima 05:24 means that is the female counterpart of 05:27 the male self and the Animus is the male 05:30 counterpart of the female so that's what 05:33 I was referring to I was talking about 05:36 men getting in touch with the female 05:38 side of themselves I wasn't talking 05:40 about sex I wasn't talking about being 05:42 gay or straight people should read young 05:44 I mean it would be an interesting 05:46 education for a lot of people which is 05:50 reasonable I think what happened with 05:52 this story is whoever the journalist was 05:54 who originally interviewed him took 05:56 something he said and ran with it and 05:58 reinterpreted it through a lens that 06:00 journalist is trying to become relevant 06:02 but Billy Dee didn't I really do believe 06:04 he didn't say it and I think it just 06:07 goes to show kind of how the gap in 06:10 community how big the gap in 06:11 communication can be generally 06:12 generationally and how eager people are 06:16 to try and assign things that they 06:19 understand to other people's experiences 06:20 like how much we're trying to look at 06:22 each other through art through our own 06:23 lenses I don't necessarily know that 06:26 Billy Dee is not gender if Billy Dee was 06:28 22 now he very well might consider 06:30 himself gender fluid because that would 06:32 be the terminology but with what he but 06:35 that's not hid the way he talks 06:37 and assigning that seems a little bit 06:40 dishonest in my opinion are you saying 06:44 that someone in the media took a quote 06:46 out of context and created 06:49 misinformation yeah I mean it's amazing 06:51 that never happens does it Wow Wow 06:55 crazy times we're living in I know like 06:58 it's almost like we have to be careful 07:00 what we read and consume because not all 07:02 of it has our best interest as consumers 07:04 at heart huh yeah anyway shout out to 07:09 Billy Dee looking forward to Star Wars 07:10 if only because you're in it sir 07:12 honestly yeah okay so yeah but he's not 07:19 the only thing the news this week is he 07:20 what else is going on well we got our 07:24 boy jay-z has been news for a couple 07:29 months first with the NFL deal there's 07:33 been controversy about his relationship 07:35 with Colin Kaepernick and now he has 07:40 well I don't think he really has beef 07:42 with Saul he doesn't well two different 07:45 people have kind of come out and exposed 07:47 situations that they've had with him it 07:49 seems like jay-z's just done a lot of 07:51 people's hit list lately 07:52 mm-hmm so first the British British 07:54 artist storm Z who's I guess a rapper or 07:57 a grime artist came out and said that he 07:59 turned down a collaboration with Jay 08:01 with Jay Z so there's a song that Ed 08:03 Sheeran does on his latest album I 08:05 haven't actually heard it yet with Jay Z 08:07 and it was originally supposed to be 08:08 jay-z and storm Z on the track but 08:10 apparently the song is called London 08:12 Edie originally approached storm Z and 08:16 said be on this track with me because 08:17 storm Z is from London and then later on 08:20 said oh but jay-z is gonna be on it too 08:21 and strumsy was like well that really 08:23 changes the the feeling of the track I 08:26 mean if it was just me doing a London 08:27 track that's different but I don't think 08:28 I can do this with a jay-z and he said 08:30 he had a meeting and was like okay so I 08:33 know your jay-z and I honestly really 08:36 hope he can collaborate someday I mean 08:37 the general tone was really nice but 08:39 this track is not the one for us to do 08:41 together 08:42 and I personally give storm Z all the 08:44 props for that 08:45 absolutely there was no animosity in it 08:47 but the fact that he was able to turn 08:49 down jay-z of all people 08:51 because he wanted to maintain artistic 08:53 integrity says a lot about jay-z 08:56 actually and how people perceive him now 08:59 the idea that jay-z being on a track 09:01 lessens the artistic integrity of it 09:03 rather than increases it mmm right jay-z 09:05 is a pop artist now not that he wasn't 09:07 always in a way but that's kind of the 09:10 perception that you get from storms he's 09:12 saying go storm sees very much got an 09:14 underground he came from an underground 09:15 following and he's still he's kind of 09:17 very cutting edge in a lot of ways and 09:20 he's known for having a certain kind of 09:22 integrity to what he does even when he 09:24 died mean a couple months ago he did 09:25 this weird CCM thing at Glastonbury and 09:29 that was strange but beyond that I mean 09:31 he's kind of known for being very 09:32 sincere I guess so for him to turn it 09:34 down 09:35 because it just wasn't right for him 09:37 artistically it says a lot about where 09:39 jay-z is is do you think that's true or 09:41 is it more about it's a song called 09:44 London and this guy from Brooklyn's 09:45 rapping on the song I think that's part 09:48 of it definitely but I mean there's 09:51 other I think there's other examples of 09:54 people rapping on a song that maybe 09:55 wasn't about them but it didn't lessen 09:59 the effect hmm I'm blanking on yeah the 10:06 minute I said that I was like I had an 10:08 example and now it is gone but I you 10:10 know if you can think of examples dear 10:11 listeners please give us examples I'm 10:13 sure they're out there I guess for me I 10:15 think it is partially just that jay-z 10:17 shouldn't have been on London and Ed 10:18 Sheeran I don't know if he's from London 10:20 either I don't think he is I can't 10:22 remember but even so just the fact that 10:25 I think had this been 10 years ago and 10:29 somebody and jay-z had approached 10:31 anybody else and said I'm gonna be on 10:32 this track with you they still would 10:33 have jumped at it and been like oh my 10:35 god jay-z I don't care if the track is 10:36 called Mars we're on it I don't care if 10:38 it's Beirut jay-z's on it with me I'm 10:40 gonna do it where is that Sharon from he 10:41 is from oh he is from London 10:43 okay just from England at least okay he 10:59 was born in Halifax West Yorkshire 11:04 oh my god but he was accepted at the 11:07 National Youth Theatre in London as a 11:09 teenager so I guess he's been there for 11:11 a long time I mean we'll give him some 11:16 London I don't really know to be honest 11:18 but I guess the point is ten years ago 11:21 you could have had a song called Tokyo 11:24 right and if somebody said jay-z is 11:27 gonna be on this track and it was five 11:28 Tokyo rappers it would have been like 11:29 we're not turning this down but we're at 11:32 a point where maybe storms is cooler 11:33 than jay-z and he can turn it down and 11:35 not feel like it's gonna do anything bad 11:36 to his career that's my point 11:38 mm-hmm-hmm maybe we were just in a 11:42 different model now I was yeah you know 11:44 listening to Saul Williams interview 11:47 with The Breakfast Club which we'll get 11:48 into very soon the models changed people 11:52 can become popular they can record a 11:55 small song and just put it out on the 11:57 internet by themselves without just a 11:59 distributor and get fame for it you know 12:03 soundcloud rap over this decade which 12:06 will we make it into it and later shows 12:08 is a real phenomenon so you don't need 12:11 to have you know what was Mac Miller's 12:13 famous line on faces he's like I did it 12:15 all without a Drake feature yeah I did 12:17 all without a J feature yeah yeah that's 12:20 a good point 12:21 yeah it's change he doesn't need jay-z 12:22 to be a hit he doesn't need jay-z to 12:24 stay hit hit write or to increase his 12:26 own relevance which makes sense okay but 12:31 strum soon-jae was very amicable 12:33 however we then get into jay-z and Saul 12:37 Williams aka the The Vegan celibate 12:41 boyfriend on girlfriend's house 12:43 everybody knows him from but yeah yeah 12:46 so we've talked about hip hop on the 12:50 show episode 31 was titled is hip hop 12:54 still the genre of revolution in that we 12:57 talked about where we think and hope hip 12:59 hop will go we also talked about status 13:01 quo rap we also talked briefly about the 13:04 dangers of black capitalism and there 13:08 are a few folks who embody that more 13:10 than jay-z who does had his birthday 13:12 yesterday he says that the same day as 13:14 my mom actually 13:17 that's right anyway saw William shared 13:20 an email that was sent to him from jay-z 13:22 in 2018 it was in response to a 2014 13:27 interview that he had with The Breakfast 13:29 Club so we're gonna play a couple 13:31 minutes of that for context okay you 13:41 know what I'm saying as an artist I feel 13:43 the same type of responsibility so it's 13:45 not activism it's really just life you 13:47 know I'm saying but what do I think is 13:49 the greatest problem facing our 13:50 community I think that yeah I mean I 13:53 don't know honestly there's lots of 13:55 things you know I think that essentially 13:56 we need to like find ways to like get 13:59 beyond the dog-eat-dog thinking that 14:01 money is power probably is the biggest 14:03 thing that we could that we're doing 14:05 wrong right now is worshipping people 14:07 just because they make a lot of money 14:08 you know I'm saying like you have cats 14:10 you know rappers included who run you 14:13 know for photo ops with Warren Buffett 14:15 you know what Maya Angelou was alive and 14:18 never ran for that photo-op you know I'm 14:19 saying I think our values are twisted I 14:22 think that we you know post 9/11 once we 14:24 pointed to another enemy and black 14:26 people stop being the so-called enemy in 14:28 America I think we graduated to real 14:30 American we got a black president and 14:32 all this stuff but real Americans 14:34 sometimes has to be questioned in the 14:36 sense of just like yo if it's just about 14:38 rags to riches if it's just about money 14:40 you know I'm saying then what the hell 14:42 are we doing it's like you know like 14:44 when Jay said I couldn't help the poor 14:45 if I was one of them you know I'm saying 14:47 thank God Harriet Tubman didn't think 14:49 that way you know I'm saying thank God 14:51 Sarge oh no truth in think that way 14:52 Malcolm X in think that way Martin 14:54 Luther King didn't think that way Assata 14:55 Shakur didn't think that way you know 14:57 what I'm saying you know no not at all 15:02 not at all you need you need to be one 15:04 with the people to be a revolutionary 15:05 you need to speak directly to the people 15:07 and understand that you don't need money 15:08 to win you need a heart you need a soul 15:10 you need to feel connected to the 15:12 universe in order to win and that's what 15:14 winning is and so we have misconstrued 15:16 the meaning of winning you know I'm 15:17 saying and so I think the problem facing 15:19 all of us so we need to say our 15:20 community I'm thinking of the global 15:21 community you know I'm saying not only 15:23 the black community the right community 15:24 anyone we just need to realize that the 15:26 ultimate power is not money you know 15:28 that the powers of being will 15:30 always prevail over the powers that be I 15:33 love Saul's intensity he's such an 15:36 interesting person to see have you ever 15:37 seen him perform 15:38 unfortunately no he's so intense and 15:40 like you'd rarely get that kind of 15:42 intensity in people just in general but 15:44 in performers it's really something 15:46 special yeah I'd love to see him mm-hmm 15:50 I saw him and lyrics born actually 15:52 together which is crazy 15:53 yeah moving on yeah so apparently Saul's 16:01 interview on The Breakfast Club the full 16:03 interview has been deleted from YouTube 16:05 there's an upload on soundcloud by 16:08 libéré dodd la space be EA our space DOD 16:14 it's titled Saul Williams interview and 16:17 I the whole thing is really insightful I 16:18 listen to it today and he's right the 16:23 civil rights leaders of old wouldn't be 16:24 caught dead doing these photo ops with 16:26 problematic people nor did they dangle 16:27 their financial achievements over the 16:30 people who respected them I said it 16:34 before on the last show the hustle or 16:37 the notion of doing it by yourself or 16:39 whatever is just a black equivalent of 16:42 pull yourself up by your bootstraps a 16:44 conservative talking point so let me 16:47 read Holmes email right our fight for 16:55 economic freedom is new it's not the 16:59 same war that Harriet Tubman was 17:01 fighting if I use the same weapons as 17:04 them I would be shooting a musket at 17:06 people with fully automatic assault 17:09 rifles although I think it's a must we 17:13 challenge each other we should be 17:14 careful that it doesn't come off as 17:16 judgment yeah I mean I get what he's 17:21 saying but I you know I've always I 17:24 always go back to that brilliant quote 17:25 by Audrey Lord the Masters tools will 17:27 never dismantle the Masters house and I 17:29 think that it's great and when Jack 17:31 Zilla was here and we were talking about 17:33 status quo rap and jay-z's kind of 17:35 community responsibility 17:36 he made the very good point that 17:39 entrepreneurship is very much a trend 17:41 within the black community right now 17:42 and everybody's kind of jumping on the 17:44 idea of entrepreneurship if they're 17:45 jumping on it because they want money 17:47 and because money has been in chin has 17:49 been linked irrevocably to freedom I'm 17:52 not saying that's not true and 17:53 excellence and excellence very much so 17:55 yeah like Saul just said but and I'm not 17:58 saying that there is not truth in that 18:00 to a certain extent but personally I 18:03 feel like if that's all you're looking 18:06 for I fear that we are becoming a people 18:09 who know the price of everything but the 18:11 value of nothing and I think that Saul 18:14 makes a very good point about that there 18:16 is more to freedom than just being able 18:18 to buy things and I have to be honest I 18:22 am team Saul on this one and this is I'm 18:24 this is coming from somebody who's done 18:25 a lot as far as entrepreneurship goes 18:28 who's done a lot as far as trying to 18:29 create community for entrepreneurs and 18:31 just I'm really a big supporter of black 18:34 businesses and black entrepreneurship 18:36 here where we live but I think that we 18:40 need to shoot for the moon not the Stars 18:42 I think that just shooting for money is 18:45 going to give us a lot of it basically 18:48 we're going to become our own oppressors 18:49 again and I'm really not into that so I 18:52 don't know I think there's something to 18:54 be said for developing past just oh we 18:56 need money because that's how we got 18:57 here so that's my feeling on it anyway 19:01 yeah but also sorry also on the other 19:08 side of that it is kind of shady for us 19:11 all to just be sharing people's private 19:13 emails that you know emails that were 19:15 sent to him privately like look what 19:16 that's kind of like sharing screenshots 19:17 of somebody's private text you know I 19:19 mean I get his point but he could have 19:21 said all that without putting pulling 19:23 jay-z into it speaking of trying to 19:26 remain relevant does cuz doesn't this 19:32 just seem really out of the blue I 19:34 suppose but artist who knows they cuz 19:39 the original email was sent in what 20 19:41 last year last year wasn't it before 19:43 that so from what I understand his 19:45 interview was doesn't 14 yeah but the 19:47 email was shared last year that's what 19:49 okay but still a year ago I mean like 19:51 what I look like if I was like you know 19:53 what that dude said to me in a year ago 19:54 let me share these tweets on 19:56 it is weird yeah it is weird but I think 20:00 and I don't want to you know I know we 20:02 had talked about this before about 20:03 getting too too serious but I think we 20:08 are coming to a point where I think as 20:13 black people especially have to start 20:19 reckoning with not all representation 20:23 matters or is important or is as 20:28 valuable 20:28 I think the jay-z succeeding model would 20:33 have been really amazing ten years ago I 20:36 mean he's been rich for a long time so I 20:38 mean he's always been looked up to and 20:39 that model wasn't was relevant at that 20:42 time just like you know Barack Obama 20:46 winning you know it was great like well 20:52 you know I had friends who cry my mom 20:53 was crying you know it was a big deal 20:54 for us but obviously you have you know 20:58 Kamala Harris just dropped out yeah the 21:00 race Cory Booker is polling super low 21:02 yeah and he'll probably drop out very 21:04 soon soon but these people have policies 21:08 that are similar to his rhetoric in that 21:10 time and they have similar donors to if 21:14 they ran in 2008 what they have been 21:16 very successful maybe probably but does 21:21 that model work now right and that's an 21:23 interesting I think parallel the other 21:26 thing though about this is just that I 21:28 think what Saul was particularly getting 21:30 into also is just jay-z's lyrics because 21:33 it's not so much that jay-z is rich 21:34 himself or that he's got he's developing 21:37 a model that is focused on building 21:40 wealth it's also that he is he's 21:42 actively said in his lyrics that he 21:45 can't help poor people right and I don't 21:47 know if he's trying or not I don't know 21:49 that it's even relevant here it just oh 21:51 it's relevant for even important as far 21:53 as the discussion but to speak about 21:55 gaining wealth only for oneself in your 21:57 lyrics is a bit socially irresponsible I 21:59 think it's basically solving selfishness 22:01 which again there are plenty of people 22:04 who believe that that is the weed that 22:05 that's the way forward and it was for 22:07 people other than us but we don't have 22:09 to be that same thing 22:10 again it's that conservative bootstraps 22:13 talking it is it can be mm-hmm you know 22:15 I got it I'm a flex a few taters nephew 22:19 poor people it's in a lot of our lyrics 22:21 yes you know and yeah you know we talk 22:24 about how this systems capitalist system 22:30 is is oppressive in how we have you know 22:32 jay-z who you know is worth what over 22:35 half half a billion dollars no just 22:39 giving crumbs out to various people you 22:42 know hey I bought a thousand dinners for 22:47 homeless people on Thanksgiving you know 22:48 that's it you know like it's good sure 22:53 yeah there's so many things we can we 22:56 can get into yeah so but wool right I 22:59 mean we'll keep it short but it's just 23:01 interesting to that this is all coming 23:03 out when we did that show earlier this 23:04 year specifically about jay-z status quo 23:07 rappin what does it mean that JC that JC 23:10 jay-z is wealthy and actively advocates 23:14 gathering wealth for yourself and 23:16 leaving everybody behind in the dust I 23:17 mean that is is that how we function as 23:19 a community is that we function as a 23:20 culture is that what we should be doing 23:22 plenty of people say yes but I 23:25 personally feel like we can do better 23:26 and to be fair I'm not sure what he's 23:30 referring to I should have looked that 23:31 up but that interview was in 2014 23:34 jay-z's most recent album was in 2017 23:37 yeah he's evolved of course sure but 23:39 even that evolution is still a black 23:40 capitalist mm-hmm way of thinking it's 23:43 not very revolutionary and so dependent 23:46 on your politics is really not for you 23:47 it was a lyric from the black album but 23:49 I don't know what song I honestly have 23:51 never been a huge Daisy fan so I kind of 23:53 only know the broadest idea of what he 23:55 does I like jay-z and I really liked 444 23:58 mm-hmm but I don't really dissect his 24:02 lyrics like that yeah cuz yeah exactly 24:06 alright but now on to what the I guess 24:09 the cultural diametric opposite of this 24:11 particular discussion that we're having 24:13 you can get on to Watchmen because on 24:15 the one hand we have black capitalism 24:17 and moving forward and wearing the 24:20 clothes of our oppressors and then 24:22 speaking 24:23 wit yeah yeah for those who are new to 24:28 our show we do go into full sports on 24:30 this stuff so yeah turn it off now if 24:33 you don't want it spoiled for you this 24:36 is a spoiler and a half oh my gosh most 24:40 shocking moment of television in 2019 24:42 hmm 24:43 I honestly think so by gosh huh okay 24:46 yeah well let's gets counted down okay 24:49 three two one I called it I called it 24:56 and I knew I called it I didn't realize 24:58 I'd called it but I did because I 25:00 mentioned the blue hand last week didn't 25:01 I yes because I'm actually calling the 25:08 show and I'd never never do that I 25:10 always have the total wrong idea where 25:12 it's going and I'm kind of right this 25:13 time yeah this wasn't as powerful an 25:18 episode from a cultural perspective as 25:20 last week however it was still a very 25:23 strong episode that pushed the story 25:25 answer some questions while causing us 25:28 of course to ponder more as the series 25:30 does so I just want to break down babe a 25:34 bit things that were cheating me so 25:36 number one now we know whether Judds 25:39 wife was in on her husband's white 25:41 supremacy or not 25:42 I love how casual they were with that 25:43 because there's kind of this trope still 25:46 in our cultural mind Oh white women are 25:49 just as oppressed as black people it is 25:51 Oh 1 fight white women are never 25:52 complicit in white racism but yeah they 25:55 are there's that great book they were 25:57 her property white women as slave owners 25:59 in the American South which recently 26:00 came out it was written by Stephanie II 26:05 what's her surname it's written by 26:07 Stephanie Stephanie Jones Rodgers where 26:10 did the e come from sorry 26:12 Stephanie a Jones Rodgers is her name 26:15 and she wrote this book that literally 26:17 goes into the complicity and the active 26:21 role that white women took in the black 26:23 American the transatlantic chattel 26:24 slaves trade I haven't read it yet 26:28 but I've heard great things about it and 26:29 the reviews are amazing but I love how 26:32 casual they were they didn't even try to 26:34 make it like oh this is so unexpected of 26:36 course she was in on it 26:37 yeah that mm-hmm yeah she's definitely 26:41 one of the 53% who would vote for Trump 26:44 but you know as you said you know she's 26:46 she'd be among the quiet not assuming 26:49 I've got a black friend kind of people 26:51 she totally did yeah this harkens back 26:56 to the previous episode with Captain 26:58 metropolis 26:59 captain Judd using a black person more 27:02 genuine and heroic than him to 27:06 legitimize his whole operation from 27:08 metropolis he wanted fame and money 27:11 while maintaining the status quo in 27:14 contrast Judd wanted to advance his 27:16 white supremacist agenda in a more can i 27:18 thing and as revealed by Senator Kean 27:21 much more ambitious way this solidifies 27:24 the idea of racism being the real 27:26 villain of the show especially now that 27:28 we know what lady true is up to right 27:31 right such a bold choice I'm sure that 27:35 Alan Moore is somewhere like cursing the 27:37 name of Damon Lindelof but I still think 27:40 it's such a bold choice so well done you 27:43 think I don't know if he's come out 27:44 against the show yet but I'm very 27:46 curious what what he want what he has to 27:48 say yeah I don't think he's going to say 27:50 anything I think he's basically washed 27:51 his hands of anything that comes from I 27:53 don't think he's been involved or 27:55 interested in being involved in any 27:57 furthering of his works he's very much I 27:59 did it it's done do what you want with 28:01 it but don't expect me to be happy about 28:03 it guys so I don't know if he'll be will 28:05 make a comment I'd be interested to hear 28:07 it too but that's not his MO generally 28:10 and if he does come out and say 28:11 something it'll be angry and bitter so 28:14 yeah hmm yeah you can you can use black 28:17 people to raid trailer parks and Nixon 28:19 Ville and hunt grunts innocent of 28:22 Calvary but as the wife said that's 28:24 small potatoes why go through the 28:26 trouble of being president and fighting 28:28 for laws that hurt minorities when you 28:30 can literally reciate reality in seconds 28:35 I might call the senator being behind 28:38 the terrorist attack 28:39 yeah you did you did I thought he was 28:41 not but you were right yeah he has a 28:43 much bigger role than I thought he did 28:45 yeah and how many times do we have to 28:47 look at fiction and nonfiction alike 28:49 to know how that works all that sweet 28:51 talk and empty platitudes about caring 28:54 about people behind the scenes he's 28:56 trash legit he totally is the Buddha 28:59 judge Trident is even funnier though 29:01 because do you know where I okay it took 29:04 me forever to realize where I knew that 29:05 actor from he was Bob from Mad Men never 29:09 watched it okay never mind Bob was I 29:11 think one of two or three openly gay 29:14 characters on the show 29:16 well not openly gay ah because there was 29:19 nobody openly gay necessarily in that 29:20 time period but obviously gay okay 29:22 characters on the show and he the way 29:24 they coded him and the way that his role 29:26 he played his role with wonderful 29:28 subtlety and I think that actor was in 29:30 some other show about wild animals or 29:32 whatever I watched two episodes and 29:33 couldn't get into it but it took a 29:35 minute for me to realize that he was 29:36 weird Bob from Mad Men and now he's 29:40 playing racist president or racist 29:42 presidential wanna be booed a judge on 29:45 well I don't know that put a judges 29:47 racist but he's certainly boring have 29:51 you seen his his track record in South 29:53 Bend I believe it I believe it I 29:56 the thing with Buddha judge is that it's 29:58 you know the problem with I don't want 30:00 to get into politics at all but I will 30:02 simply say that the problem with all of 30:04 our Democratic candidates right now is 30:05 that they really they're like they're 30:09 like Lego men where you just kind of 30:11 switch out the heads and they're all 30:12 sort of the same thing right like most 30:14 of them there's a couple clear 30:16 frontrunners or a couple clear outliers 30:18 but most of them are just real bland we 30:21 kind of got mashed potatoes and 30:23 unseasoned chicken on the menu at the 30:25 minute yeah and it's depressing that 30:28 said can you imagine the powers of dr. 30:33 Manhattan in the hands of white 30:34 supremacists again I just I never even 30:38 thought about it 30:39 I I got chills thinking about it 30:41 watching it the the irony of u.s. 30:43 citizens of all colors celebrating 30:46 Manhattan's decimation of Vietnam but 30:49 now we're faced with a very real 30:50 possibility of that power decimating us 30:52 just terrifying so many parallels to 30:55 real life we champion terrorism in 30:58 invasions abroad even supporting 31:00 well-spoken 31:00 liberal politicians with nice families 31:03 like it seemed justified but heaven 31:05 forbid any of that comes to our borders 31:09 just the thought of a racist with 31:11 superhero powers is is terrifying like 31:16 you said and what's interesting also 31:18 about that is just so the interesting 31:22 thing about superheroes and the 31:24 supervillains is they tend to stay away 31:26 from the sort of social issue they tend 31:28 to stay away from racism largely even 31:30 when you look at Black Panther even 31:33 though there was an issue where the 31:34 Black Panther fought the Klan for 31:36 example that he didn't have any overtly 31:39 I am a racist and I hate you I hate your 31:41 people kind of super villains so they've 31:44 largely stayed away from race even 31:46 though 31:46 clonk law was pretty big deal yeah but 31:48 that was clause issue wasn't necessarily 31:50 racism it was just thievery and greed in 31:53 the comics anyway I mean like claw was 31:54 never like you you like he wasn't like 31:57 spouting racial slurs and whatnot he 31:59 wasn't like let me have a turkey black 32:00 people he just didn't he just wanted to 32:02 steal vibranium and whatever point being 32:05 though there was the black bomber in 32:08 black lightning right but I'm not too 32:10 familiar with that character there were 32:12 I mean there were definitely characters 32:13 that encompassed that but it's 32:14 interesting to see this happening it's 32:16 funny because originally we were gonna 32:18 review knives outright and I did 32:20 actually see that this afternoon and it 32:23 was brilliant 32:24 okay partially because the one of the 32:27 biggest jerks in the film is played by 32:29 Captain America Chris Evans and the 32:32 whole time watching him play this 32:33 extreme jerk like this absolute dirtbag 32:36 to a person I thought it was a brilliant 32:38 choice simply because Chris Evans in all 32:41 of his career he's never played an awful 32:44 white person you know the kind of like 32:47 racist sexist and you know kind of like 32:51 everybody's nightmare idea like you know 32:53 when everybody says old white guys 32:55 they're talking about that white guy all 32:57 right he plays that in this film but it 32:58 was just really interesting to see 33:00 Captain America playing that because 33:03 that's what he's best known for playing 33:04 that kind of role and here we have this 33:07 idea being explored in a much more 33:09 literal way in Watchmen mmm-hmm 33:16 haven't range yeah I mean it's a very 33:18 smart career move I mean if there's any 33:20 way to pull yourself out of the Marvel 33:23 unit if there's any way to pull yourself 33:26 out of the Marvel Universe Association 33:28 completely it is to play a role 33:31 completely unlike the role that you've 33:33 been known for for the past decade 33:34 really yeah yeah mm-hmm and he does it 33:37 but it's just interesting to see that 33:38 and then to see a much more literal 33:41 interpretation of that in a show yeah on 33:43 on the note of invaders something that I 33:48 find fascinating is that we continue to 33:50 see how will Reeves and Angela's lives 33:52 are so connected Will's parents were 33:55 killed in front of him by an invading 33:58 force in Tulsa 33:59 similarly Angela's parents were killed 34:01 in front of her also blown up but they 34:03 represented the invaders in Vietnam the 34:07 victims become the invaders very much so 34:09 there was also an interesting commentary 34:11 very brief but there about the brutality 34:14 of post-colonial States yeah of course 34:17 and then you have of course a black 34:21 person signing up for military police 34:24 being used by forces that are nefarious 34:27 for their own agenda right yeah just 34:32 amazing right I mean also just co-opting 34:34 that agenda I don't necessarily well 34:36 there's a lot of layers there you sure 34:38 but yeah sure number two we finally have 34:41 the answer to who is this child that 34:44 lady true is raising now we didn't talk 34:46 about it we forgot to talk about it on 34:48 the show last week but I think we both 34:50 assumed it was a clone yeah but we 34:53 thought it but I thought it was a clone 34:54 later true but it's not 34:55 mm-hmm it's a clone of her mother mm-hmm 34:58 I'm sure this show probably won't 35:00 explore her much further but I don't 35:02 understand the in-game I've lady true 35:05 with her mother clone will she ever tell 35:06 her is she going to age her quickly like 35:09 right when she saves the world or yeah I 35:13 got the impression that she already knew 35:15 that the little girl well the mother 35:18 that's so strange to talk about the 35:20 little girl who was actually the mother 35:21 I got the impression she already kind of 35:23 knew because she's receiving those 35:24 memories so I think she knows no she 35:27 just said that she has dreams like she 35:29 doesn't know what 35:30 the IV drip is she just thinks it's for 35:32 her own good she doesn't know that those 35:33 are the pills she just she but she was 35:35 she was talking to Angela she clearly 35:36 knows what happened to Angela and she's 35:39 a very smart person so you mean in 35:43 regards to the accident what do you mean 35:46 know in regards to her taking the the 35:48 the what is it called the the pills the 35:50 pills the memory pills and having that 35:52 whole thing happen I think because she 35:53 wasn't it the the little girl who 35:55 explained that she was hooked into her 35:57 grandfather or thought she was hooked 35:59 into her grandfather I kind of got the 36:02 impression that she already kind of knew 36:03 but the girl still talked as if I had 36:07 these weird dreams of this like she is 36:09 it's as if she doesn't know that's 36:11 that's her though right the third person 36:15 maybe I don't know but I kind of I guess 36:17 I got a different impression from that 36:18 scene good I'll be she ever made that 36:20 connection Angela did mm-hmm 36:23 when she talked to Lee true and lady she 36:24 was so caught off guard member in that 36:26 scene what would he would eat what 36:27 you're talking about yeah I don't think 36:28 she would have expected her to talk 36:30 about it but I don't know I mean I got a 36:31 different a very different read of that 36:32 okay speaking of strange now we know 36:37 where sister night comes from as well 36:38 mmm that's the motivation to be a police 36:40 officer right 36:41 and while Reeve saw a fictional 36:43 character that looked like him get 36:45 justice on screen 36:46 Angela witnessed justice with her own 36:48 eyes and ears that was directly related 36:51 to her trauma mm-hmm an officer Jin 36:54 didn't look like her entirely but she 36:56 was a woman who was encouraging and 36:58 sympathetic to her and combine that with 37:00 the sister night you have quite a origin 37:02 story yeah definitely with the sister 37:04 night movie yeah the show slowly pulls 37:06 back the curtain yeah doesn't that was a 37:09 much that her her origin story was 37:13 crafted really differently than I 37:15 thought it would be yeah but also very 37:17 sensitively yeah again I like I really 37:19 have a thing I really love when you see 37:21 black female characters who are more 37:23 nuanced than the usual tropes because I 37:25 mean we've gone beyond mammy and 37:26 Sapphire but they're still sort of a 37:28 very clear expectation of how black 37:30 women should be on film and I like that 37:33 it didn't really go in those 37:34 stereotypical directions yeah and in so 37:37 many ways which we'll get to mm-hmm yeah 37:40 let's get to the craziness of 37:43 we're dr. Manhattan is yeah that is I 37:47 don't know I just thinking about it my 37:50 mind blows a little bit back my goodness 37:53 yeah we we praise the show for being 37:55 progressive and having Angela a black 37:57 woman be kind of the matriarch in the 37:59 family but wow this unassuming snack of 38:02 a man is in fact directly connected to 38:05 dr. Manhattan yes 38:07 it was such a disturbing scene how she 38:09 is hit her innocent husband because he's 38:12 so confused and he's so he's been so 38:14 loving and so sweet this whole time and 38:16 she just walks up and like cracks his 38:18 skull and it she just keeps hitting him 38:20 and the sound effects he were really 38:22 effective in the blood and it was like 38:25 when she hit it didn't really it sounded 38:27 like metal so I was like I see a robot 38:29 like it was 38:29 I still have quests about who this 38:31 person is oh you didn't know you didn't 38:34 figure it out until then wait what do 38:37 you mean I'm sorry okay so like so when 38:40 when she okay so the last thing that 38:42 lady true says to Angela when she's 38:44 leaving is you know it's funny I told 38:47 you that dr. Manhattan is here and you 38:48 didn't ask me I was like oh my gosh 38:53 really cuz before when she was when she 38:55 first explained the whole what white 38:57 supremacists are gonna do they're gonna 38:58 conjure up dr. Manhattan and kill him 39:00 etc whatever I started thinking okay so 39:04 he can't just like and then she when she 39:07 says that he's hidden he's hiding as 39:09 somebody else this looks like one of us 39:10 I thought to myself well okay so he's 39:13 got to be somebody we've met in the show 39:14 but who's left right is he he can't be 39:18 one of the women because that's one of 39:19 the things that the showed us about all 39:20 most of the characters are women if you 39:22 noticed if he can't be one of the women 39:24 how many men are left I mean he's not 39:26 the grandfather obviously because she 39:27 wouldn't had the memories so I was 39:29 cycling through all of the guys in them 39:30 when when Angela like jetted out of the 39:32 out of the lab or wherever they were 39:34 that I was like oh I get it 39:36 oh my gosh this is gonna be crazy this 39:38 can't be it and then of course it was I 39:40 guess it's me again I was just so caught 39:42 up in everything I was just I just want 39:44 to see it happened yeah but like I said 39:47 even just the sound effects going into 39:49 his brain it's like she hitting bone she 39:51 hitting metal 39:52 I mean shouts he pulled out that man 39:54 hadn't looking 39:57 I don't know what that we did yeah is 40:02 this is this John merely a clone a copy 40:05 machine 40:07 I highly doubt John would dedicate 40:10 himself entirely to trying to be human 40:11 again 40:12 but then again Mars is pretty boring 40:15 yeah I mean there is that thing he did 40:18 in the comics and which was famously 40:20 done in the film even though the film's 40:22 not so good where he makes a dozen of 40:24 him so like one of him is working in the 40:25 lab and the other one is in bed with 40:26 Janie or whoever yeah yeah so excited he 40:31 could be on Mars it could be a different 40:33 galaxy for all you know and he could 40:35 just have clones experiencing things 40:39 just just like Naruto right exactly who 40:42 knows I I think okay so first of all Wow 40:46 so in the very first my first thoughts 40:49 the very first episode when we talked 40:51 about Watchmen we talked about how 40:52 different the character of mr. a bar I 40:56 can traverse first name now 40:57 cow cow yeah count Black Manta yeah we 41:00 get black mantas I always think of him 41:02 as black man I know I don't think of 41:03 Miss Black Manta I think of him a 41:04 striking Viper 41:05 but even so he's really done a lot of 41:08 good nerd TV hasn't he thinking about it 41:10 Black Manta striking Vipers The Watchmen 41:14 us right he's been a lot of really good 41:17 things in the past couple years here 41:18 past a year really making some good 41:20 choices yes hopefully he'll get to star 41:23 in something soon guys yeah anyway when 41:26 I when we first saw Cal we talked about 41:28 how he was a very different kind of 41:31 black black male character how we're 41:33 seeing a lot of black men playing 41:35 against type just like we're seeing a 41:36 lot of black women playing against type 41:37 now in TV in movies etc and he kind of 41:42 actually isn't playing against type is 41:43 he I really liked that switch cuz they 41:46 really did pull a bait and switch on you 41:47 because you don't think he's that 41:49 important at all and then it turns out 41:50 oh my gosh he's dr. Manhattan what yes 41:54 insane mm-hmm I can't wait to see the 41:57 story behind this because they they 41:58 lately lead to that in the previews yeah 42:00 do they have striking Cal and blue face 42:04 paint and that in that restaurant I 42:05 really hope they don't do that because 42:07 it's obviously paint I don't know what's 42:09 gonna happen with that so and that's the 42:10 thing 42:11 like you I'm becoming a little wary of 42:15 the ending and so far we haven't really 42:17 added any supernatural elements to the 42:19 plot 42:19 so the jury is still out on whether 42:21 everything's gonna pay off and I think 42:22 the previews kind of I'm gonna hope yeah 42:28 I mean this is a hell of a twist though 42:32 so we have two more there's nine 42:34 episodes total we have what two more two 42:36 more yeah we have two more episodes I 42:38 mean they keep impressing me 42:42 consistently cuz I'm keep I keep 42:43 expecting to be let down I was really 42:45 expecting to be let down in this past 42:47 episode and it didn't I don't know how 42:49 many more twists they've got in them 42:51 though I mean it's going to places 42:52 they're basically taking the most 42:55 obvious possibility and doing that but 42:58 doing it in a cool way you know like the 43:00 things you think that they wouldn't do 43:02 that because it's stupid they're doing 43:03 it but it's coming out really well I 43:05 wish Rian Johnson 43:07 you know I'd learnt let's not go there 43:08 uh-huh okay then of course we have more 43:11 antics with Veidt at that crazy chord 43:13 yeah I don't know what is going on there 43:16 at all I think that was the most 43:17 confusing scene with him yet personally 43:19 yeah I did he have a trial in order to 43:21 get him banished from the paradise and I 43:23 can see preparing to come back to earth 43:24 it's lady true trying to connect this 43:27 clock to bring me back to hell right 43:29 yeah right these white supremacist who 43:31 is the gamekeeper why are all of his 43:34 clone servants all of a sudden angry 43:36 with him and they were totally ok with 43:37 being burned alive before but thing is 43:39 you had the prosecutor a clone hmm 43:42 go hard on him but then she's winking at 43:44 him yeah and then it's a light and he's 43:46 smiling like yeah you know it has this 43:48 happened before is this part of their 43:49 and he's constantly acting he's crying 43:52 is he acting he's trying to act it's I 43:54 can't I really can't I get it's really 43:57 starting to get distracting in a bad way 43:58 like at first it was like oh that's 44:00 Ozymandias let's see up to and now it's 44:01 like oh god I was a man Deus what's he 44:03 up to 44:03 it's just really I don't know it's just 44:07 it's such an interesting show and 44:09 they're really doing a lot with it and 44:10 there again it's the whiplash is intense 44:13 because they go from like let's talk 44:14 about generational trauma to part waist 44:17 to you know like they're going all over 44:19 the place with this anyway yeah speaking 44:21 of all that we forgot all about 44:23 detective 44:25 Tilman lookingglass and the seventh 44:26 Calgary who came to his house because we 44:28 haven't seen hide or hair of him but 44:30 clearly he's still okay 44:31 yeah yeah like there's there's no fat 44:34 wasted in the show everything is 44:35 important I think it's addressed except 44:37 for the greatest mystery in the show 44:39 okay white man who slipped through the 44:41 sewer yeah what happened to him I need 44:44 that to be at least I'd have completely 44:47 forgot about him cuz he we haven't seen 44:49 him since you know the other thing about 44:51 that is in the future there was there's 44:55 been a lot made of well what is she now 44:57 FBI agent Lake Lake yaksas tape she took 45:00 her dad's name she spent that whole 45:04 episode talking on one of those blue 45:05 phones to dr. Manhattan beseeching him 45:07 for attention and it turns out that all 45:10 this time he's been shacked up with 45:13 sister night playing house literally how 45:19 is that going to change the relationship 45:20 between these two women and note that 45:23 Blake has commented on Cal yeah I don't 45:33 know it this episode I really wanted to 45:36 see what they were going to do at the 45:39 end of our generational trauma episode 45:41 but no this is the first time I've 45:44 wanted to see what they're going to do 45:45 next because I'm like where is this 45:47 going to like because of the plot right 45:48 this is the first truly intriguing plot 45:52 twist so far and what's interesting 45:54 about it is that it's weird but it's 45:56 weird in a way that's very authentic to 45:58 the original comic yeah like there were 45:59 a lot of parts that whole thing with the 46:01 elephant that was strange but it was 46:03 totally it was very much within the 46:04 Watchmen universe you know also I hope 46:07 that they don't stop talking about 46:08 generational trauma just because we're 46:10 not in that episode anymore they kind of 46:12 eased up on it a lot in this episode but 46:13 I think that there are still some 46:14 threads of that that need to be dealt 46:16 with because the interesting thing about 46:17 Angela there's a blog I read Tom and 46:20 Lorenzo it's mostly fashion but they 46:21 also review TV mmm one of my favorite 46:24 cultural comment blogs on the internet 46:26 and they made a really good point 46:28 about the thing with Angela is that 46:30 you've got this woman who's literally 46:32 she's trapped in a generational curse 46:33 she's done everything that her 46:36 grandfather did 46:38 but she didn't know it that she was 46:40 doing that you have this woman who was 46:42 raised this black woman who was raged 46:44 largely outside of black culture in 46:47 Vietnam who then Rica next a black 46:50 culture by coming back to Tulsa and 46:52 getting her Redford Asians reparations I 46:54 should stop calling them that that's 46:55 what the race has called them getting 46:57 her reparations and then she somehow is 47:01 still this black woman married to a 47:02 black man who turns out to be a blue 47:04 alien or not an alien a white man who 47:06 turned into a blue superhero whatever I 47:08 don't know that's gonna be weird 47:09 whatever they tried to do with that 47:11 optically but then they're raising you 47:13 know color yeah totally yeah uh-huh 47:15 but I'm punching sir Oh Oh God okay 47:20 anyway so Angela however reconnects the 47:24 black culture and her been her roots as 47:26 much as she can in Tulsa with no family 47:28 and then she's raising these three white 47:31 kids so she's like caught right in 47:33 between these very two non black spaces 47:36 reclaiming her own blackness mmm 47:39 through and then there's all the 47:40 generational trauma that goes through 47:41 this that goes along with that and now 47:44 she's connecting to her grandfather 47:45 who's gone AWOL because she was hooked 47:47 up to an elephant whatever I don't know 47:50 I hope that they resolve that in some 47:52 way just within that character because 47:53 it's this is very much her story she's 47:55 very much become the centerpiece of the 47:57 show as a character right and if they're 48:00 gonna go through with it if they're 48:01 gonna give us that they need to follow 48:03 it through and give her some sort of 48:04 resolution or some sort of continuation 48:06 with that I agree mm-hmm totally you 48:10 have an ideas or suggestions about how 48:13 to keep that going no because I the 48:17 thing that I like about the show is I 48:19 have no idea where it's going I'm 48:20 calling it by accident and I love that 48:22 like I'm like well maybe they'll do this 48:24 just because I can't think of anything 48:25 better and then they do it but they do 48:27 it in a way I'm not expecting at all so 48:29 hopefully I'm calling it again and but I 48:31 want them to surprise me with how they 48:33 do it do it differently don't give us 48:34 those don't give us those the colored 48:36 museum tropes please well I would say 48:39 she's gonna renter her grandfather 48:40 before this is all over with maybe 48:43 there'll be a divergence like maybe we 48:44 have a shared history but now our 48:47 futures are present yeah are different 48:49 and that maybe that'll be hopefully it's 48:51 ending that way 48:52 maybe maybe he really is the elephant we 48:54 don't know but okay what did you guys 49:00 think of this lace up so the Watchmen do 49:02 you guys have any ideas of where it's 49:03 going to go let us know in the comments 49:06 let us know what yes thing about this 49:07 Billy Dee story yeah and of course Saul 49:10 and Jay gosh yeah there's a lot to talk 49:11 about this week please give us your 49:13 thoughts you know also also guys we want 49:16 to try something new in upcoming shows 49:18 and we need your help 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