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What The Hell is Gender Fluid: BlerdUp Episode 40

Brendon and Mel talk about Billy Dee Williams and gender fluidity, some Black artists’ recent critique of Jay-Z, and the latest Watchmen episode.


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course I'm joined by my co-host Mel say
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what's up good so today we're going to
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talk about the latest episode of
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Watchmen before that we're going to talk
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about Billy Dee Williams has been in the
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news for some for an interesting reason
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right and if you have a little time
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we're going to talk about Saul Williams
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having a little beef with Jay Z alright
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so let's get into Billy Dee Williams of
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course everyone knows he is mr. Colt 45
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himself in my view probably the second
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coolest black fictional character in
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movies second in sci-fi I'll say inside
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ok mm-hmm
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Lando Calrissian okay so why is he
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second who's first Morpheus fair enough
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okay but you know Lando Calrissian flew
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so that Morpheus could enter the matrix
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so you know yeah yeah
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they definitely have a demo Morpheus had
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older debt to Lando I'll say that okay
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mm-hmm yeah yes yeah definitely Lando is
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iconic
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but Billy Dee is also iconic in and of
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himself I mean he's such a symbol of
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smooth black masculinity right over time
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I mean he was in mahogany he was in a
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lot of really good movies and kind of
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was very much a sex symbol he did the
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Colt 45 ads but where is he now well
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let's talk about that hmm
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shoutout to Draper who actually isn't
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with us anymore he moved out of Korea
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doing bigger and better things
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wish him I wish we could have given him
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a proper send-off but our schedules
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never mashed up miss you anyway he sent
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us a story in the group chat about Billy
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Dee Williams mr. Colt 45 himself
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revealed himself to be gender-fluid
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write that story blue it really did
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there were memes of Billy Dee standing
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in front of all kinds of flags and like
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people were saying it's this amazing how
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we're so free now the elders can speak
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their truth but did you see the update
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on this story I have yeah and you know
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before we get there mm-hmm
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I I saw an article in essence magazine
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hmm and the boomers were not happy the
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first rule of the Internet has never
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read the comments except for our
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comments leave us comments but you know
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I actually like to read comments on some
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things anyway they were not happy about
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that reveal the general consensus was he
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was just trying to stay relevant Wow
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harsh so a man who is about to be in one
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of the biggest franchise movies of all
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time needs to reveal how he feels about
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his gender to promote himself and a
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movie that will make a billion dollars
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in a week in any way that's such a
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strange thing to say yeah he needed to
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stay irrelevant because I don't I don't
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think he's ever really stopped being
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relevant I don't know I mean he's not a
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sex symbol anymore but he definitely
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left his mark on the culture sure I mean
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he's not hot anymore
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yeah but of course as you said mark on
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the coals and what does hot even mean
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anymore I mean like there's so much
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media out there that everything is so
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diffused like if you ask 10 people who's
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hot they're all gonna give you different
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answers I mean there's not really
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household names don't really function
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the same way they used to or I mean just
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talked about that's what I mean that's
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what I'm talking about yes I mean
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household names don't function the same
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way anymore
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so it's not I don't know relevance is a
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tricky thing I think but the internet
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and this the sheer amount of media
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that's presented and how many people
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only watch things that are old or only
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watch things that are new or only watch
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things from a certain provider that kind
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of thing I
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that's such a strange criticism to me
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yeah I mean like most boomer criticism
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so I guess anyway let's get to that
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update because all isn't what it seems
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in an interview with the undefeated
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Billy Dee Williams eggs well first of
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all I asked last night what the hell is
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gender fluid that's a whole new term
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what I was talking about was about men
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getting in touch with the softer side of
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themselves there's a phrase that was
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coined by Carl G Jung who was a
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psychiatrist who was a contemporary of
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Sigmund Freud and they had a splitting
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of the ways because they had different
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ideas about them what do you call it
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consciousness unconscious it's
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collective unconsciousness but he coined
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a phrase that's anima animus an anima
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means that is the female counterpart of
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the male self and the Animus is the male
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counterpart of the female so that's what
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I was referring to I was talking about
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men getting in touch with the female
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side of themselves I wasn't talking
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about sex I wasn't talking about being
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gay or straight people should read young
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I mean it would be an interesting
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education for a lot of people which is
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reasonable I think what happened with
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this story is whoever the journalist was
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who originally interviewed him took
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something he said and ran with it and
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reinterpreted it through a lens that
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journalist is trying to become relevant
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but Billy Dee didn't I really do believe
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he didn't say it and I think it just
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goes to show kind of how the gap in
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community how big the gap in
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communication can be generally
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generationally and how eager people are
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to try and assign things that they
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understand to other people's experiences
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like how much we're trying to look at
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each other through art through our own
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lenses I don't necessarily know that
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Billy Dee is not gender if Billy Dee was
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22 now he very well might consider
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himself gender fluid because that would
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be the terminology but with what he but
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that's not hid the way he talks
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and assigning that seems a little bit
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dishonest in my opinion are you saying
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that someone in the media took a quote
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out of context and created
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misinformation yeah I mean it's amazing
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that never happens does it Wow Wow
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crazy times we're living in I know like
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it's almost like we have to be careful
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what we read and consume because not all
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of it has our best interest as consumers
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at heart huh yeah anyway shout out to
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Billy Dee looking forward to Star Wars
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if only because you're in it sir
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honestly yeah okay so yeah but he's not
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the only thing the news this week is he
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what else is going on well we got our
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boy jay-z has been news for a couple
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months first with the NFL deal there's
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been controversy about his relationship
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with Colin Kaepernick and now he has
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well I don't think he really has beef
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with Saul he doesn't well two different
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people have kind of come out and exposed
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situations that they've had with him it
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seems like jay-z's just done a lot of
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people's hit list lately
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mm-hmm so first the British British
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artist storm Z who's I guess a rapper or
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a grime artist came out and said that he
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turned down a collaboration with Jay
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with Jay Z so there's a song that Ed
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Sheeran does on his latest album I
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haven't actually heard it yet with Jay Z
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and it was originally supposed to be
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jay-z and storm Z on the track but
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apparently the song is called London
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Edie originally approached storm Z and
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said be on this track with me because
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storm Z is from London and then later on
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said oh but jay-z is gonna be on it too
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and strumsy was like well that really
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changes the the feeling of the track I
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mean if it was just me doing a London
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track that's different but I don't think
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I can do this with a jay-z and he said
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he had a meeting and was like okay so I
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know your jay-z and I honestly really
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hope he can collaborate someday I mean
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the general tone was really nice but
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this track is not the one for us to do
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together
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and I personally give storm Z all the
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props for that
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absolutely there was no animosity in it
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but the fact that he was able to turn
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down jay-z of all people
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because he wanted to maintain artistic
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integrity says a lot about jay-z
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actually and how people perceive him now
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the idea that jay-z being on a track
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lessens the artistic integrity of it
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rather than increases it mmm right jay-z
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is a pop artist now not that he wasn't
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always in a way but that's kind of the
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perception that you get from storms he's
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saying go storm sees very much got an
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underground he came from an underground
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following and he's still he's kind of
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very cutting edge in a lot of ways and
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he's known for having a certain kind of
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integrity to what he does even when he
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died mean a couple months ago he did
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this weird CCM thing at Glastonbury and
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that was strange but beyond that I mean
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he's kind of known for being very
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sincere I guess so for him to turn it
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down
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because it just wasn't right for him
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artistically it says a lot about where
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jay-z is is do you think that's true or
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is it more about it's a song called
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London and this guy from Brooklyn's
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rapping on the song I think that's part
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of it definitely but I mean there's
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other I think there's other examples of
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people rapping on a song that maybe
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wasn't about them but it didn't lessen
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the effect hmm I'm blanking on yeah the
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minute I said that I was like I had an
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example and now it is gone but I you
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know if you can think of examples dear
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listeners please give us examples I'm
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sure they're out there I guess for me I
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think it is partially just that jay-z
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shouldn't have been on London and Ed
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Sheeran I don't know if he's from London
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either I don't think he is I can't
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remember but even so just the fact that
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I think had this been 10 years ago and
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somebody and jay-z had approached
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anybody else and said I'm gonna be on
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this track with you they still would
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have jumped at it and been like oh my
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god jay-z I don't care if the track is
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called Mars we're on it I don't care if
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it's Beirut jay-z's on it with me I'm
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gonna do it where is that Sharon from he
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is from oh he is from London
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okay just from England at least okay he
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was born in Halifax West Yorkshire
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oh my god but he was accepted at the
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National Youth Theatre in London as a
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teenager so I guess he's been there for
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a long time I mean we'll give him some
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London I don't really know to be honest
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but I guess the point is ten years ago
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you could have had a song called Tokyo
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right and if somebody said jay-z is
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gonna be on this track and it was five
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Tokyo rappers it would have been like
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we're not turning this down but we're at
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a point where maybe storms is cooler
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than jay-z and he can turn it down and
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not feel like it's gonna do anything bad
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to his career that's my point
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mm-hmm-hmm maybe we were just in a
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different model now I was yeah you know
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listening to Saul Williams interview
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with The Breakfast Club which we'll get
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into very soon the models changed people
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can become popular they can record a
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small song and just put it out on the
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internet by themselves without just a
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distributor and get fame for it you know
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soundcloud rap over this decade which
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will we make it into it and later shows
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is a real phenomenon so you don't need
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to have you know what was Mac Miller's
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famous line on faces he's like I did it
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all without a Drake feature yeah I did
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all without a J feature yeah yeah that's
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a good point
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yeah it's change he doesn't need jay-z
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to be a hit he doesn't need jay-z to
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stay hit hit write or to increase his
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own relevance which makes sense okay but
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strum soon-jae was very amicable
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however we then get into jay-z and Saul
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Williams aka the The Vegan celibate
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boyfriend on girlfriend's house
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everybody knows him from but yeah yeah
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so we've talked about hip hop on the
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show episode 31 was titled is hip hop
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still the genre of revolution in that we
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talked about where we think and hope hip
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hop will go we also talked about status
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quo rap we also talked briefly about the
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dangers of black capitalism and there
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are a few folks who embody that more
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than jay-z who does had his birthday
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yesterday he says that the same day as
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my mom actually
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that's right anyway saw William shared
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an email that was sent to him from jay-z
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in 2018 it was in response to a 2014
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interview that he had with The Breakfast
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Club so we're gonna play a couple
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minutes of that for context okay you
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know what I'm saying as an artist I feel
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the same type of responsibility so it's
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not activism it's really just life you
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know I'm saying but what do I think is
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the greatest problem facing our
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community I think that yeah I mean I
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don't know honestly there's lots of
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things you know I think that essentially
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we need to like find ways to like get
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beyond the dog-eat-dog thinking that
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money is power probably is the biggest
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thing that we could that we're doing
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wrong right now is worshipping people
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just because they make a lot of money
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you know I'm saying like you have cats
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you know rappers included who run you
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know for photo ops with Warren Buffett
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you know what Maya Angelou was alive and
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never ran for that photo-op you know I'm
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saying I think our values are twisted I
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think that we you know post 9/11 once we
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pointed to another enemy and black
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people stop being the so-called enemy in
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America I think we graduated to real
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American we got a black president and
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all this stuff but real Americans
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sometimes has to be questioned in the
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sense of just like yo if it's just about
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rags to riches if it's just about money
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you know I'm saying then what the hell
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are we doing it's like you know like
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when Jay said I couldn't help the poor
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if I was one of them you know I'm saying
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thank God Harriet Tubman didn't think
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that way you know I'm saying thank God
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Sarge oh no truth in think that way
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Malcolm X in think that way Martin
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Luther King didn't think that way Assata
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Shakur didn't think that way you know
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what I'm saying you know no not at all
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not at all you need you need to be one
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with the people to be a revolutionary
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you need to speak directly to the people
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and understand that you don't need money
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to win you need a heart you need a soul
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you need to feel connected to the
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universe in order to win and that's what
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winning is and so we have misconstrued
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the meaning of winning you know I'm
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saying and so I think the problem facing
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all of us so we need to say our
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community I'm thinking of the global
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community you know I'm saying not only
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the black community the right community
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anyone we just need to realize that the
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ultimate power is not money you know
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that the powers of being will
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always prevail over the powers that be I
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love Saul's intensity he's such an
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interesting person to see have you ever
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seen him perform
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unfortunately no he's so intense and
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like you'd rarely get that kind of
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intensity in people just in general but
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in performers it's really something
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special yeah I'd love to see him mm-hmm
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I saw him and lyrics born actually
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together which is crazy
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yeah moving on yeah so apparently Saul's
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interview on The Breakfast Club the full
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interview has been deleted from YouTube
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there's an upload on soundcloud by
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libéré dodd la space be EA our space DOD
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it's titled Saul Williams interview and
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I the whole thing is really insightful I
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listen to it today and he's right the
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civil rights leaders of old wouldn't be
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caught dead doing these photo ops with
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problematic people nor did they dangle
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their financial achievements over the
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people who respected them I said it
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before on the last show the hustle or
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the notion of doing it by yourself or
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whatever is just a black equivalent of
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pull yourself up by your bootstraps a
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conservative talking point so let me
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read Holmes email right our fight for
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economic freedom is new it's not the
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same war that Harriet Tubman was
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fighting if I use the same weapons as
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them I would be shooting a musket at
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people with fully automatic assault
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rifles although I think it's a must we
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challenge each other we should be
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careful that it doesn't come off as
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judgment yeah I mean I get what he's
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saying but I you know I've always I
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always go back to that brilliant quote
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by Audrey Lord the Masters tools will
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never dismantle the Masters house and I
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think that it's great and when Jack
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Zilla was here and we were talking about
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status quo rap and jay-z's kind of
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community responsibility
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he made the very good point that
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entrepreneurship is very much a trend
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within the black community right now
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and everybody's kind of jumping on the
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idea of entrepreneurship if they're
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jumping on it because they want money
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and because money has been in chin has
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been linked irrevocably to freedom I'm
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not saying that's not true and
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excellence and excellence very much so
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yeah like Saul just said but and I'm not
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saying that there is not truth in that
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to a certain extent but personally I
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feel like if that's all you're looking
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for I fear that we are becoming a people
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who know the price of everything but the
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value of nothing and I think that Saul
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makes a very good point about that there
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is more to freedom than just being able
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to buy things and I have to be honest I
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am team Saul on this one and this is I'm
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this is coming from somebody who's done
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a lot as far as entrepreneurship goes
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who's done a lot as far as trying to
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create community for entrepreneurs and
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just I'm really a big supporter of black
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businesses and black entrepreneurship
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here where we live but I think that we
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need to shoot for the moon not the Stars
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I think that just shooting for money is
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going to give us a lot of it basically
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we're going to become our own oppressors
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again and I'm really not into that so I
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don't know I think there's something to
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be said for developing past just oh we
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need money because that's how we got
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here so that's my feeling on it anyway
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yeah but also sorry also on the other
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side of that it is kind of shady for us
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all to just be sharing people's private
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emails that you know emails that were
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sent to him privately like look what
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that's kind of like sharing screenshots
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of somebody's private text you know I
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mean I get his point but he could have
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said all that without putting pulling
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jay-z into it speaking of trying to
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remain relevant does cuz doesn't this
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just seem really out of the blue I
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suppose but artist who knows they cuz
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the original email was sent in what 20
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last year last year wasn't it before
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that so from what I understand his
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interview was doesn't 14 yeah but the
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email was shared last year that's what
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okay but still a year ago I mean like
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what I look like if I was like you know
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what that dude said to me in a year ago
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let me share these tweets on
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it is weird yeah it is weird but I think
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and I don't want to you know I know we
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had talked about this before about
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getting too too serious but I think we
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are coming to a point where I think as
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black people especially have to start
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reckoning with not all representation
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matters or is important or is as
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valuable
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I think the jay-z succeeding model would
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have been really amazing ten years ago I
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mean he's been rich for a long time so I
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mean he's always been looked up to and
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that model wasn't was relevant at that
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time just like you know Barack Obama
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winning you know it was great like well
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you know I had friends who cry my mom
20:53
was crying you know it was a big deal
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for us but obviously you have you know
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Kamala Harris just dropped out yeah the
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race Cory Booker is polling super low
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yeah and he'll probably drop out very
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soon soon but these people have policies
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that are similar to his rhetoric in that
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time and they have similar donors to if
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they ran in 2008 what they have been
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very successful maybe probably but does
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that model work now right and that's an
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interesting I think parallel the other
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thing though about this is just that I
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think what Saul was particularly getting
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into also is just jay-z's lyrics because
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it's not so much that jay-z is rich
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himself or that he's got he's developing
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a model that is focused on building
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wealth it's also that he is he's
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actively said in his lyrics that he
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can't help poor people right and I don't
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know if he's trying or not I don't know
21:49
that it's even relevant here it just oh
21:51
it's relevant for even important as far
21:53
as the discussion but to speak about
21:55
gaining wealth only for oneself in your
21:57
lyrics is a bit socially irresponsible I
21:59
think it's basically solving selfishness
22:01
which again there are plenty of people
22:04
who believe that that is the weed that
22:05
that's the way forward and it was for
22:07
people other than us but we don't have
22:09
to be that same thing
22:10
again it's that conservative bootstraps
22:13
talking it is it can be mm-hmm you know
22:15
I got it I'm a flex a few taters nephew
22:19
poor people it's in a lot of our lyrics
22:21
yes you know and yeah you know we talk
22:24
about how this systems capitalist system
22:30
is is oppressive in how we have you know
22:32
jay-z who you know is worth what over
22:35
half half a billion dollars no just
22:39
giving crumbs out to various people you
22:42
know hey I bought a thousand dinners for
22:47
homeless people on Thanksgiving you know
22:48
that's it you know like it's good sure
22:53
yeah there's so many things we can we
22:56
can get into yeah so but wool right I
22:59
mean we'll keep it short but it's just
23:01
interesting to that this is all coming
23:03
out when we did that show earlier this
23:04
year specifically about jay-z status quo
23:07
rappin what does it mean that JC that JC
23:10
jay-z is wealthy and actively advocates
23:14
gathering wealth for yourself and
23:16
leaving everybody behind in the dust I
23:17
mean that is is that how we function as
23:19
a community is that we function as a
23:20
culture is that what we should be doing
23:22
plenty of people say yes but I
23:25
personally feel like we can do better
23:26
and to be fair I'm not sure what he's
23:30
referring to I should have looked that
23:31
up but that interview was in 2014
23:34
jay-z's most recent album was in 2017
23:37
yeah he's evolved of course sure but
23:39
even that evolution is still a black
23:40
capitalist mm-hmm way of thinking it's
23:43
not very revolutionary and so dependent
23:46
on your politics is really not for you
23:47
it was a lyric from the black album but
23:49
I don't know what song I honestly have
23:51
never been a huge Daisy fan so I kind of
23:53
only know the broadest idea of what he
23:55
does I like jay-z and I really liked 444
23:58
mm-hmm but I don't really dissect his
24:02
lyrics like that yeah cuz yeah exactly
24:06
alright but now on to what the I guess
24:09
the cultural diametric opposite of this
24:11
particular discussion that we're having
24:13
you can get on to Watchmen because on
24:15
the one hand we have black capitalism
24:17
and moving forward and wearing the
24:20
clothes of our oppressors and then
24:22
speaking
24:23
wit yeah yeah for those who are new to
24:28
our show we do go into full sports on
24:30
this stuff so yeah turn it off now if
24:33
you don't want it spoiled for you this
24:36
is a spoiler and a half oh my gosh most
24:40
shocking moment of television in 2019
24:42
hmm
24:43
I honestly think so by gosh huh okay
24:46
yeah well let's gets counted down okay
24:49
three two one I called it I called it
24:56
and I knew I called it I didn't realize
24:58
I'd called it but I did because I
25:00
mentioned the blue hand last week didn't
25:01
I yes because I'm actually calling the
25:08
show and I'd never never do that I
25:10
always have the total wrong idea where
25:12
it's going and I'm kind of right this
25:13
time yeah this wasn't as powerful an
25:18
episode from a cultural perspective as
25:20
last week however it was still a very
25:23
strong episode that pushed the story
25:25
answer some questions while causing us
25:28
of course to ponder more as the series
25:30
does so I just want to break down babe a
25:34
bit things that were cheating me so
25:36
number one now we know whether Judds
25:39
wife was in on her husband's white
25:41
supremacy or not
25:42
I love how casual they were with that
25:43
because there's kind of this trope still
25:46
in our cultural mind Oh white women are
25:49
just as oppressed as black people it is
25:51
Oh 1 fight white women are never
25:52
complicit in white racism but yeah they
25:55
are there's that great book they were
25:57
her property white women as slave owners
25:59
in the American South which recently
26:00
came out it was written by Stephanie II
26:05
what's her surname it's written by
26:07
Stephanie Stephanie Jones Rodgers where
26:10
did the e come from sorry
26:12
Stephanie a Jones Rodgers is her name
26:15
and she wrote this book that literally
26:17
goes into the complicity and the active
26:21
role that white women took in the black
26:23
American the transatlantic chattel
26:24
slaves trade I haven't read it yet
26:28
but I've heard great things about it and
26:29
the reviews are amazing but I love how
26:32
casual they were they didn't even try to
26:34
make it like oh this is so unexpected of
26:36
course she was in on it
26:37
yeah that mm-hmm yeah she's definitely
26:41
one of the 53% who would vote for Trump
26:44
but you know as you said you know she's
26:46
she'd be among the quiet not assuming
26:49
I've got a black friend kind of people
26:51
she totally did yeah this harkens back
26:56
to the previous episode with Captain
26:58
metropolis
26:59
captain Judd using a black person more
27:02
genuine and heroic than him to
27:06
legitimize his whole operation from
27:08
metropolis he wanted fame and money
27:11
while maintaining the status quo in
27:14
contrast Judd wanted to advance his
27:16
white supremacist agenda in a more can i
27:18
thing and as revealed by Senator Kean
27:21
much more ambitious way this solidifies
27:24
the idea of racism being the real
27:26
villain of the show especially now that
27:28
we know what lady true is up to right
27:31
right such a bold choice I'm sure that
27:35
Alan Moore is somewhere like cursing the
27:37
name of Damon Lindelof but I still think
27:40
it's such a bold choice so well done you
27:43
think I don't know if he's come out
27:44
against the show yet but I'm very
27:46
curious what what he want what he has to
27:48
say yeah I don't think he's going to say
27:50
anything I think he's basically washed
27:51
his hands of anything that comes from I
27:53
don't think he's been involved or
27:55
interested in being involved in any
27:57
furthering of his works he's very much I
27:59
did it it's done do what you want with
28:01
it but don't expect me to be happy about
28:03
it guys so I don't know if he'll be will
28:05
make a comment I'd be interested to hear
28:07
it too but that's not his MO generally
28:10
and if he does come out and say
28:11
something it'll be angry and bitter so
28:14
yeah hmm yeah you can you can use black
28:17
people to raid trailer parks and Nixon
28:19
Ville and hunt grunts innocent of
28:22
Calvary but as the wife said that's
28:24
small potatoes why go through the
28:26
trouble of being president and fighting
28:28
for laws that hurt minorities when you
28:30
can literally reciate reality in seconds
28:35
I might call the senator being behind
28:38
the terrorist attack
28:39
yeah you did you did I thought he was
28:41
not but you were right yeah he has a
28:43
much bigger role than I thought he did
28:45
yeah and how many times do we have to
28:47
look at fiction and nonfiction alike
28:49
to know how that works all that sweet
28:51
talk and empty platitudes about caring
28:54
about people behind the scenes he's
28:56
trash legit he totally is the Buddha
28:59
judge Trident is even funnier though
29:01
because do you know where I okay it took
29:04
me forever to realize where I knew that
29:05
actor from he was Bob from Mad Men never
29:09
watched it okay never mind Bob was I
29:11
think one of two or three openly gay
29:14
characters on the show
29:16
well not openly gay ah because there was
29:19
nobody openly gay necessarily in that
29:20
time period but obviously gay okay
29:22
characters on the show and he the way
29:24
they coded him and the way that his role
29:26
he played his role with wonderful
29:28
subtlety and I think that actor was in
29:30
some other show about wild animals or
29:32
whatever I watched two episodes and
29:33
couldn't get into it but it took a
29:35
minute for me to realize that he was
29:36
weird Bob from Mad Men and now he's
29:40
playing racist president or racist
29:42
presidential wanna be booed a judge on
29:45
well I don't know that put a judges
29:47
racist but he's certainly boring have
29:51
you seen his his track record in South
29:53
Bend I believe it I believe it I
29:56
the thing with Buddha judge is that it's
29:58
you know the problem with I don't want
30:00
to get into politics at all but I will
30:02
simply say that the problem with all of
30:04
our Democratic candidates right now is
30:05
that they really they're like they're
30:09
like Lego men where you just kind of
30:11
switch out the heads and they're all
30:12
sort of the same thing right like most
30:14
of them there's a couple clear
30:16
frontrunners or a couple clear outliers
30:18
but most of them are just real bland we
30:21
kind of got mashed potatoes and
30:23
unseasoned chicken on the menu at the
30:25
minute yeah and it's depressing that
30:28
said can you imagine the powers of dr.
30:33
Manhattan in the hands of white
30:34
supremacists again I just I never even
30:38
thought about it
30:39
I I got chills thinking about it
30:41
watching it the the irony of u.s.
30:43
citizens of all colors celebrating
30:46
Manhattan's decimation of Vietnam but
30:49
now we're faced with a very real
30:50
possibility of that power decimating us
30:52
just terrifying so many parallels to
30:55
real life we champion terrorism in
30:58
invasions abroad even supporting
31:00
well-spoken
31:00
liberal politicians with nice families
31:03
like it seemed justified but heaven
31:05
forbid any of that comes to our borders
31:09
just the thought of a racist with
31:11
superhero powers is is terrifying like
31:16
you said and what's interesting also
31:18
about that is just so the interesting
31:22
thing about superheroes and the
31:24
supervillains is they tend to stay away
31:26
from the sort of social issue they tend
31:28
to stay away from racism largely even
31:30
when you look at Black Panther even
31:33
though there was an issue where the
31:34
Black Panther fought the Klan for
31:36
example that he didn't have any overtly
31:39
I am a racist and I hate you I hate your
31:41
people kind of super villains so they've
31:44
largely stayed away from race even
31:46
though
31:46
clonk law was pretty big deal yeah but
31:48
that was clause issue wasn't necessarily
31:50
racism it was just thievery and greed in
31:53
the comics anyway I mean like claw was
31:54
never like you you like he wasn't like
31:57
spouting racial slurs and whatnot he
31:59
wasn't like let me have a turkey black
32:00
people he just didn't he just wanted to
32:02
steal vibranium and whatever point being
32:05
though there was the black bomber in
32:08
black lightning right but I'm not too
32:10
familiar with that character there were
32:12
I mean there were definitely characters
32:13
that encompassed that but it's
32:14
interesting to see this happening it's
32:16
funny because originally we were gonna
32:18
review knives outright and I did
32:20
actually see that this afternoon and it
32:23
was brilliant
32:24
okay partially because the one of the
32:27
biggest jerks in the film is played by
32:29
Captain America Chris Evans and the
32:32
whole time watching him play this
32:33
extreme jerk like this absolute dirtbag
32:36
to a person I thought it was a brilliant
32:38
choice simply because Chris Evans in all
32:41
of his career he's never played an awful
32:44
white person you know the kind of like
32:47
racist sexist and you know kind of like
32:51
everybody's nightmare idea like you know
32:53
when everybody says old white guys
32:55
they're talking about that white guy all
32:57
right he plays that in this film but it
32:58
was just really interesting to see
33:00
Captain America playing that because
33:03
that's what he's best known for playing
33:04
that kind of role and here we have this
33:07
idea being explored in a much more
33:09
literal way in Watchmen mmm-hmm
33:16
haven't range yeah I mean it's a very
33:18
smart career move I mean if there's any
33:20
way to pull yourself out of the Marvel
33:23
unit if there's any way to pull yourself
33:26
out of the Marvel Universe Association
33:28
completely it is to play a role
33:31
completely unlike the role that you've
33:33
been known for for the past decade
33:34
really yeah yeah mm-hmm and he does it
33:37
but it's just interesting to see that
33:38
and then to see a much more literal
33:41
interpretation of that in a show yeah on
33:43
on the note of invaders something that I
33:48
find fascinating is that we continue to
33:50
see how will Reeves and Angela's lives
33:52
are so connected Will's parents were
33:55
killed in front of him by an invading
33:58
force in Tulsa
33:59
similarly Angela's parents were killed
34:01
in front of her also blown up but they
34:03
represented the invaders in Vietnam the
34:07
victims become the invaders very much so
34:09
there was also an interesting commentary
34:11
very brief but there about the brutality
34:14
of post-colonial States yeah of course
34:17
and then you have of course a black
34:21
person signing up for military police
34:24
being used by forces that are nefarious
34:27
for their own agenda right yeah just
34:32
amazing right I mean also just co-opting
34:34
that agenda I don't necessarily well
34:36
there's a lot of layers there you sure
34:38
but yeah sure number two we finally have
34:41
the answer to who is this child that
34:44
lady true is raising now we didn't talk
34:46
about it we forgot to talk about it on
34:48
the show last week but I think we both
34:50
assumed it was a clone yeah but we
34:53
thought it but I thought it was a clone
34:54
later true but it's not
34:55
mm-hmm it's a clone of her mother mm-hmm
34:58
I'm sure this show probably won't
35:00
explore her much further but I don't
35:02
understand the in-game I've lady true
35:05
with her mother clone will she ever tell
35:06
her is she going to age her quickly like
35:09
right when she saves the world or yeah I
35:13
got the impression that she already knew
35:15
that the little girl well the mother
35:18
that's so strange to talk about the
35:20
little girl who was actually the mother
35:21
I got the impression she already kind of
35:23
knew because she's receiving those
35:24
memories so I think she knows no she
35:27
just said that she has dreams like she
35:29
doesn't know what
35:30
the IV drip is she just thinks it's for
35:32
her own good she doesn't know that those
35:33
are the pills she just she but she was
35:35
she was talking to Angela she clearly
35:36
knows what happened to Angela and she's
35:39
a very smart person so you mean in
35:43
regards to the accident what do you mean
35:46
know in regards to her taking the the
35:48
the what is it called the the pills the
35:50
pills the memory pills and having that
35:52
whole thing happen I think because she
35:53
wasn't it the the little girl who
35:55
explained that she was hooked into her
35:57
grandfather or thought she was hooked
35:59
into her grandfather I kind of got the
36:02
impression that she already kind of knew
36:03
but the girl still talked as if I had
36:07
these weird dreams of this like she is
36:09
it's as if she doesn't know that's
36:11
that's her though right the third person
36:15
maybe I don't know but I kind of I guess
36:17
I got a different impression from that
36:18
scene good I'll be she ever made that
36:20
connection Angela did mm-hmm
36:23
when she talked to Lee true and lady she
36:24
was so caught off guard member in that
36:26
scene what would he would eat what
36:27
you're talking about yeah I don't think
36:28
she would have expected her to talk
36:30
about it but I don't know I mean I got a
36:31
different a very different read of that
36:32
okay speaking of strange now we know
36:37
where sister night comes from as well
36:38
mmm that's the motivation to be a police
36:40
officer right
36:41
and while Reeve saw a fictional
36:43
character that looked like him get
36:45
justice on screen
36:46
Angela witnessed justice with her own
36:48
eyes and ears that was directly related
36:51
to her trauma mm-hmm an officer Jin
36:54
didn't look like her entirely but she
36:56
was a woman who was encouraging and
36:58
sympathetic to her and combine that with
37:00
the sister night you have quite a origin
37:02
story yeah definitely with the sister
37:04
night movie yeah the show slowly pulls
37:06
back the curtain yeah doesn't that was a
37:09
much that her her origin story was
37:13
crafted really differently than I
37:15
thought it would be yeah but also very
37:17
sensitively yeah again I like I really
37:19
have a thing I really love when you see
37:21
black female characters who are more
37:23
nuanced than the usual tropes because I
37:25
mean we've gone beyond mammy and
37:26
Sapphire but they're still sort of a
37:28
very clear expectation of how black
37:30
women should be on film and I like that
37:33
it didn't really go in those
37:34
stereotypical directions yeah and in so
37:37
many ways which we'll get to mm-hmm yeah
37:40
let's get to the craziness of
37:43
we're dr. Manhattan is yeah that is I
37:47
don't know I just thinking about it my
37:50
mind blows a little bit back my goodness
37:53
yeah we we praise the show for being
37:55
progressive and having Angela a black
37:57
woman be kind of the matriarch in the
37:59
family but wow this unassuming snack of
38:02
a man is in fact directly connected to
38:05
dr. Manhattan yes
38:07
it was such a disturbing scene how she
38:09
is hit her innocent husband because he's
38:12
so confused and he's so he's been so
38:14
loving and so sweet this whole time and
38:16
she just walks up and like cracks his
38:18
skull and it she just keeps hitting him
38:20
and the sound effects he were really
38:22
effective in the blood and it was like
38:25
when she hit it didn't really it sounded
38:27
like metal so I was like I see a robot
38:29
like it was
38:29
I still have quests about who this
38:31
person is oh you didn't know you didn't
38:34
figure it out until then wait what do
38:37
you mean I'm sorry okay so like so when
38:40
when she okay so the last thing that
38:42
lady true says to Angela when she's
38:44
leaving is you know it's funny I told
38:47
you that dr. Manhattan is here and you
38:48
didn't ask me I was like oh my gosh
38:53
really cuz before when she was when she
38:55
first explained the whole what white
38:57
supremacists are gonna do they're gonna
38:58
conjure up dr. Manhattan and kill him
39:00
etc whatever I started thinking okay so
39:04
he can't just like and then she when she
39:07
says that he's hidden he's hiding as
39:09
somebody else this looks like one of us
39:10
I thought to myself well okay so he's
39:13
got to be somebody we've met in the show
39:14
but who's left right is he he can't be
39:18
one of the women because that's one of
39:19
the things that the showed us about all
39:20
most of the characters are women if you
39:22
noticed if he can't be one of the women
39:24
how many men are left I mean he's not
39:26
the grandfather obviously because she
39:27
wouldn't had the memories so I was
39:29
cycling through all of the guys in them
39:30
when when Angela like jetted out of the
39:32
out of the lab or wherever they were
39:34
that I was like oh I get it
39:36
oh my gosh this is gonna be crazy this
39:38
can't be it and then of course it was I
39:40
guess it's me again I was just so caught
39:42
up in everything I was just I just want
39:44
to see it happened yeah but like I said
39:47
even just the sound effects going into
39:49
his brain it's like she hitting bone she
39:51
hitting metal
39:52
I mean shouts he pulled out that man
39:54
hadn't looking
39:57
I don't know what that we did yeah is
40:02
this is this John merely a clone a copy
40:05
machine
40:07
I highly doubt John would dedicate
40:10
himself entirely to trying to be human
40:11
again
40:12
but then again Mars is pretty boring
40:15
yeah I mean there is that thing he did
40:18
in the comics and which was famously
40:20
done in the film even though the film's
40:22
not so good where he makes a dozen of
40:24
him so like one of him is working in the
40:25
lab and the other one is in bed with
40:26
Janie or whoever yeah yeah so excited he
40:31
could be on Mars it could be a different
40:33
galaxy for all you know and he could
40:35
just have clones experiencing things
40:39
just just like Naruto right exactly who
40:42
knows I I think okay so first of all Wow
40:46
so in the very first my first thoughts
40:49
the very first episode when we talked
40:51
about Watchmen we talked about how
40:52
different the character of mr. a bar I
40:56
can traverse first name now
40:57
cow cow yeah count Black Manta yeah we
41:00
get black mantas I always think of him
41:02
as black man I know I don't think of
41:03
Miss Black Manta I think of him a
41:04
striking Viper
41:05
but even so he's really done a lot of
41:08
good nerd TV hasn't he thinking about it
41:10
Black Manta striking Vipers The Watchmen
41:14
us right he's been a lot of really good
41:17
things in the past couple years here
41:18
past a year really making some good
41:20
choices yes hopefully he'll get to star
41:23
in something soon guys yeah anyway when
41:26
I when we first saw Cal we talked about
41:28
how he was a very different kind of
41:31
black black male character how we're
41:33
seeing a lot of black men playing
41:35
against type just like we're seeing a
41:36
lot of black women playing against type
41:37
now in TV in movies etc and he kind of
41:42
actually isn't playing against type is
41:43
he I really liked that switch cuz they
41:46
really did pull a bait and switch on you
41:47
because you don't think he's that
41:49
important at all and then it turns out
41:50
oh my gosh he's dr. Manhattan what yes
41:54
insane mm-hmm I can't wait to see the
41:57
story behind this because they they
41:58
lately lead to that in the previews yeah
42:00
do they have striking Cal and blue face
42:04
paint and that in that restaurant I
42:05
really hope they don't do that because
42:07
it's obviously paint I don't know what's
42:09
gonna happen with that so and that's the
42:10
thing
42:11
like you I'm becoming a little wary of
42:15
the ending and so far we haven't really
42:17
added any supernatural elements to the
42:19
plot
42:19
so the jury is still out on whether
42:21
everything's gonna pay off and I think
42:22
the previews kind of I'm gonna hope yeah
42:28
I mean this is a hell of a twist though
42:32
so we have two more there's nine
42:34
episodes total we have what two more two
42:36
more yeah we have two more episodes I
42:38
mean they keep impressing me
42:42
consistently cuz I'm keep I keep
42:43
expecting to be let down I was really
42:45
expecting to be let down in this past
42:47
episode and it didn't I don't know how
42:49
many more twists they've got in them
42:51
though I mean it's going to places
42:52
they're basically taking the most
42:55
obvious possibility and doing that but
42:58
doing it in a cool way you know like the
43:00
things you think that they wouldn't do
43:02
that because it's stupid they're doing
43:03
it but it's coming out really well I
43:05
wish Rian Johnson
43:07
you know I'd learnt let's not go there
43:08
uh-huh okay then of course we have more
43:11
antics with Veidt at that crazy chord
43:13
yeah I don't know what is going on there
43:16
at all I think that was the most
43:17
confusing scene with him yet personally
43:19
yeah I did he have a trial in order to
43:21
get him banished from the paradise and I
43:23
can see preparing to come back to earth
43:24
it's lady true trying to connect this
43:27
clock to bring me back to hell right
43:29
yeah right these white supremacist who
43:31
is the gamekeeper why are all of his
43:34
clone servants all of a sudden angry
43:36
with him and they were totally ok with
43:37
being burned alive before but thing is
43:39
you had the prosecutor a clone hmm
43:42
go hard on him but then she's winking at
43:44
him yeah and then it's a light and he's
43:46
smiling like yeah you know it has this
43:48
happened before is this part of their
43:49
and he's constantly acting he's crying
43:52
is he acting he's trying to act it's I
43:54
can't I really can't I get it's really
43:57
starting to get distracting in a bad way
43:58
like at first it was like oh that's
44:00
Ozymandias let's see up to and now it's
44:01
like oh god I was a man Deus what's he
44:03
up to
44:03
it's just really I don't know it's just
44:07
it's such an interesting show and
44:09
they're really doing a lot with it and
44:10
there again it's the whiplash is intense
44:13
because they go from like let's talk
44:14
about generational trauma to part waist
44:17
to you know like they're going all over
44:19
the place with this anyway yeah speaking
44:21
of all that we forgot all about
44:23
detective
44:25
Tilman lookingglass and the seventh
44:26
Calgary who came to his house because we
44:28
haven't seen hide or hair of him but
44:30
clearly he's still okay
44:31
yeah yeah like there's there's no fat
44:34
wasted in the show everything is
44:35
important I think it's addressed except
44:37
for the greatest mystery in the show
44:39
okay white man who slipped through the
44:41
sewer yeah what happened to him I need
44:44
that to be at least I'd have completely
44:47
forgot about him cuz he we haven't seen
44:49
him since you know the other thing about
44:51
that is in the future there was there's
44:55
been a lot made of well what is she now
44:57
FBI agent Lake Lake yaksas tape she took
45:00
her dad's name she spent that whole
45:04
episode talking on one of those blue
45:05
phones to dr. Manhattan beseeching him
45:07
for attention and it turns out that all
45:10
this time he's been shacked up with
45:13
sister night playing house literally how
45:19
is that going to change the relationship
45:20
between these two women and note that
45:23
Blake has commented on Cal yeah I don't
45:33
know it this episode I really wanted to
45:36
see what they were going to do at the
45:39
end of our generational trauma episode
45:41
but no this is the first time I've
45:44
wanted to see what they're going to do
45:45
next because I'm like where is this
45:47
going to like because of the plot right
45:48
this is the first truly intriguing plot
45:52
twist so far and what's interesting
45:54
about it is that it's weird but it's
45:56
weird in a way that's very authentic to
45:58
the original comic yeah like there were
45:59
a lot of parts that whole thing with the
46:01
elephant that was strange but it was
46:03
totally it was very much within the
46:04
Watchmen universe you know also I hope
46:07
that they don't stop talking about
46:08
generational trauma just because we're
46:10
not in that episode anymore they kind of
46:12
eased up on it a lot in this episode but
46:13
I think that there are still some
46:14
threads of that that need to be dealt
46:16
with because the interesting thing about
46:17
Angela there's a blog I read Tom and
46:20
Lorenzo it's mostly fashion but they
46:21
also review TV mmm one of my favorite
46:24
cultural comment blogs on the internet
46:26
and they made a really good point
46:28
about the thing with Angela is that
46:30
you've got this woman who's literally
46:32
she's trapped in a generational curse
46:33
she's done everything that her
46:36
grandfather did
46:38
but she didn't know it that she was
46:40
doing that you have this woman who was
46:42
raised this black woman who was raged
46:44
largely outside of black culture in
46:47
Vietnam who then Rica next a black
46:50
culture by coming back to Tulsa and
46:52
getting her Redford Asians reparations I
46:54
should stop calling them that that's
46:55
what the race has called them getting
46:57
her reparations and then she somehow is
47:01
still this black woman married to a
47:02
black man who turns out to be a blue
47:04
alien or not an alien a white man who
47:06
turned into a blue superhero whatever I
47:08
don't know that's gonna be weird
47:09
whatever they tried to do with that
47:11
optically but then they're raising you
47:13
know color yeah totally yeah uh-huh
47:15
but I'm punching sir Oh Oh God okay
47:20
anyway so Angela however reconnects the
47:24
black culture and her been her roots as
47:26
much as she can in Tulsa with no family
47:28
and then she's raising these three white
47:31
kids so she's like caught right in
47:33
between these very two non black spaces
47:36
reclaiming her own blackness mmm
47:39
through and then there's all the
47:40
generational trauma that goes through
47:41
this that goes along with that and now
47:44
she's connecting to her grandfather
47:45
who's gone AWOL because she was hooked
47:47
up to an elephant whatever I don't know
47:50
I hope that they resolve that in some
47:52
way just within that character because
47:53
it's this is very much her story she's
47:55
very much become the centerpiece of the
47:57
show as a character right and if they're
48:00
gonna go through with it if they're
48:01
gonna give us that they need to follow
48:03
it through and give her some sort of
48:04
resolution or some sort of continuation
48:06
with that I agree mm-hmm totally you
48:10
have an ideas or suggestions about how
48:13
to keep that going no because I the
48:17
thing that I like about the show is I
48:19
have no idea where it's going I'm
48:20
calling it by accident and I love that
48:22
like I'm like well maybe they'll do this
48:24
just because I can't think of anything
48:25
better and then they do it but they do
48:27
it in a way I'm not expecting at all so
48:29
hopefully I'm calling it again and but I
48:31
want them to surprise me with how they
48:33
do it do it differently don't give us
48:34
those don't give us those the colored
48:36
museum tropes please well I would say
48:39
she's gonna renter her grandfather
48:40
before this is all over with maybe
48:43
there'll be a divergence like maybe we
48:44
have a shared history but now our
48:47
futures are present yeah are different
48:49
and that maybe that'll be hopefully it's
48:51
ending that way
48:52
maybe maybe he really is the elephant we
48:54
don't know but okay what did you guys
49:00
think of this lace up so the Watchmen do
49:02
you guys have any ideas of where it's
49:03
going to go let us know in the comments
49:06
let us know what yes thing about this
49:07
Billy Dee story yeah and of course Saul
49:10
and Jay gosh yeah there's a lot to talk
49:11
about this week please give us your
49:13
thoughts you know also also guys we want
49:16
to try something new in upcoming shows
49:18
and we need your help for that can you
49:20
please ask us questions we realize that
49:22
we have a couple of very loyal listeners
49:24
and y'all don't know us that well some
49:26
of you know us in real life and that's
49:28
cool but some of y'all don't we have
49:29
some new people and even those of us and
49:31
even those of you who know us maybe
49:34
don't know us so well or don't know our
49:36
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49:38
blurred up so ask us questions in the
49:40
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49:44
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49:45
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49:47
of those tags in a second ask us
49:50
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49:51
at some point on an upcoming show and we
49:54
need questions to do that I mean
49:56
personally I'd like to do questions on
49:57
every show there's necessarily have to
49:59
be personal questions about us but maybe
50:02
there's a story that you wants it to
50:04
cover mm-hmm let us know yeah we are
50:07
here to speak to you right this sounds
50:09
very infomercial II at this we're here
50:11
for you yeah we are here for you we are
50:13
we're here to support you we are all one
50:15
nation under a groove getting down just
50:17
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50:20
you to tell us what you want to hear so
50:22
what equipment what can we talk to you
50:24
blurt up listeners what can we rap to
50:27
you about let us know and on that note
50:30
I'm gonna close the show of my Billy Dee
50:33
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50:38
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51:01
catches on blurred calm lovely sight
51:05
full of black nerd econ
51:06
and goodness mil where can they find you
51:10
I can't want to do I Diana Ross voice in
51:14
response to your Billy Dee voice but I
51:15
totally yes you can find me you can find
51:19
me on equal-opportunity reader that's
51:22
equal opportunity reader spell just the
51:25
way it sounds I don't do a very good day
51:26
on a Ross place but anyway yeah I think
51:28
that sounded more like Pamela Anderson
51:29
what's wrong with me oh my gosh okay
51:32
moving on yes find me an
51:33
equal-opportunity reader that's my books
51:35
to Graham I talk about books nerdy and
51:37
not nerdy but I'm living a thousand
51:39
different lives with a printed word find
51:40
me there also don't forget to leave us
51:42
questions on blur it up please don't ask
51:44
you to do the Diana Ross voice again
51:46
moving on peace peace yo you're like
51:56
LaToya Jackson oh gosh
51:58
[Laughter]

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